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I have to agree with FR, whilst it is true they have a good few crew heading for the Gulf the training machine grinds on full steam. I think any shortage will not hit until 2012/2013 when crews wake up up to the fact that well paid jobs based on 900+ hours year are not the same when sat on your arse over winter, but until there is a significant increase in pilot jobs, where will they go any way?
Another good set of numbers out of FR, but some concerns ahead, i don't think fuel will be one of them though.
The shrinkage in spending power of the average bod in the UK and Europe to follow, will cut FR volumes more than other no LoCo airlines in the same that the perceived increase in spending power during the debt boom increased it.
FR insist that recession is good for them and up to a point its correct as people shop around to make the money go further, but that tends to come to an abrupt halt when out of work, conversely the retired with good pension schemes, no mortgage or kids or debts to feed, or working families with young children will avoid like the plague the Easyjet/FR its a knock out scrum
In a few days time FR are committed to showing fares including tax & charges, i am sure that for the first few weeks there will be some good head line fares if only to mask the change.
Parking 80 aircraft is good sense in winter but becoming a summer only airline has huge risks because of the impact on crew incomes
Another good set of numbers out of FR, but some concerns ahead, i don't think fuel will be one of them though.
The shrinkage in spending power of the average bod in the UK and Europe to follow, will cut FR volumes more than other no LoCo airlines in the same that the perceived increase in spending power during the debt boom increased it.
FR insist that recession is good for them and up to a point its correct as people shop around to make the money go further, but that tends to come to an abrupt halt when out of work, conversely the retired with good pension schemes, no mortgage or kids or debts to feed, or working families with young children will avoid like the plague the Easyjet/FR its a knock out scrum
In a few days time FR are committed to showing fares including tax & charges, i am sure that for the first few weeks there will be some good head line fares if only to mask the change.
Parking 80 aircraft is good sense in winter but becoming a summer only airline has huge risks because of the impact on crew incomes
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Parking 80 aircraft is good sense in winter but becoming a summer only airline has huge risks because of the impact on crew incomes
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Ryanair Canary Islands
Heard at work that Ryanair had applied for slots for
4 x weekly LGW- TFS 1940
3 x weekly LGW-ACE 1205
Starting mid September
Nothing on sale yet anyone any further news if actually going ahead ?
Bagmanlgw
4 x weekly LGW- TFS 1940
3 x weekly LGW-ACE 1205
Starting mid September
Nothing on sale yet anyone any further news if actually going ahead ?
Bagmanlgw
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Never again......
I admit I have not read all of this thread. However, Ryanair treated like a fool today (and I guess I was one, 'cause I paid their comletely unreasonable extra charges, and still flew). But I was really close to just walking away from what I had paid, and choosing Air Berlin instead. When their hidden extra charges exceed by five times, the price of the advertized ticket, it's time to walk.... You could easily convince me that their staff get commisions from finding every little thing to charge extra for.
I'm completely unhappy with how Ryanair staff treated me today, and I'm never choosing them again. I'd rather spend more, and be treated as though the airline appreciated my business! Yes, I am willing to pay more for courteous treatment - something can be too cheap!
I'm completely unhappy with how Ryanair staff treated me today, and I'm never choosing them again. I'd rather spend more, and be treated as though the airline appreciated my business! Yes, I am willing to pay more for courteous treatment - something can be too cheap!
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Likely the ability to breath the air in the cabin and to have a seatbelt were required additional charges. Oh and the required up to 4 hour delays addon which ryanair enjoys putting on to you.
I can't stand flying ryanair, flew twice so far in the last 5 years and both were dreadful. Delays and had bites on my legs from both of them.
I can't stand flying ryanair, flew twice so far in the last 5 years and both were dreadful. Delays and had bites on my legs from both of them.
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Likely the ability to breath the air in the cabin and to have a seatbelt were required additional charges. Oh and the required up to 4 hour delays addon which ryanair enjoys putting on to you.
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GROW UP !
Love them or hate them "RYANAIR" as we all know do not charge from Air in the cabin or seat belts and the REQUIRED 4 hour delay which Ryanair ENJOY putting on you, what are you going on about ??? (SLANDER)...
Pilot DAR - you were not charged Extra for anything ! you were given a SUB-TOTAL for the flight on the first page of booking then it was upto you, like on alot of airlines, if you wanted to add bags and insurance you were also give many options on how to pay including a FREE option ...
You had a very clear amount shown on every page of your booking and a TOTAL amount shown to you before you clicked the final button to pay.
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GROW UP !
Love them or hate them "RYANAIR" as we all know do not charge from Air in the cabin or seat belts and the REQUIRED 4 hour delay which Ryanair ENJOY putting on you, what are you going on about ??? (SLANDER)...
Pilot DAR - you were not charged Extra for anything ! you were given a SUB-TOTAL for the flight on the first page of booking then it was upto you, like on alot of airlines, if you wanted to add bags and insurance you were also give many options on how to pay including a FREE option ...
You had a very clear amount shown on every page of your booking and a TOTAL amount shown to you before you clicked the final button to pay.
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Well said DAZ. The only figure you should be interested in is on the final page, the rest is just bumph, if that is what you are prepared to pay then book it and stop crying! I have used Ryanair several times and have not had any great problems apart from the inane broadcast at the end of the flight when on time.
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Well, "extra" is my way of expressing that Ryanair either did, or attempted to/would have, (had I not objected), exacted money from me after the payment for the ticket on the internet, which none of the dozens of other airlines I have ever flown ever have so boldly attempted.
Let's bear in mind that Ryanair's website would not accept my Canadian Visa credit card for payment, and offered no other means for me to pay, or to contact them in any way to arrange to pay in person. A friend had to pay with his credit card, make the booking, and I had to pay him cash back. Funny though, when Ryanair wanted to collect additional payment, they were eager to accept my credit card then!
When it is obvious from the short timelines of my booking, that I had absolutely no access to my email, or a printer, to charge 40 Euro to print a boarding pass when I check in to a 39.90 Euro flight, is an entirely new experience for me - and unacceptable to me.
When the Ryanair staff member who takes and checks my booking information, and passport, prints the boarding pass saying "Jim" instead of the "James" of my passport, I don't mind. But when the next Ryanair staff member attempts to exact a further 150 Euro, to then change (correct the incorrect information they entered) the name on my ticket, I will not tolerate it. Why would I be expected to pay many times the cost of the original ticket, in additional fees, to correct an error they had transcribed?
My experience with airlines I like, is that unless the passenger was apparently wrecklessly oblivious to "the rules", they would accomodate the passenger as best as possible, with the least impact as possible. On the other hand, I felt that booking the ticket, and going through the process to board the flight was some kind of skills test, with finacial penalties at every turn, for imperfection.
That's not the way I want to travel, there can be enough stressors as it is, I don't need the airline adding to them. Obviously there are enough people who have either learned the ins and outs or are willing to go along with Ryanair's rules, to keep the flights full, so be it - but not me!
It is my opinion (having worked several years in airline customer service), that company policies which result in stressed or angry passengers, will result in longer customer service times, and stressed staff. That staff member might then take longer to do their job, and be less cheerful for the next passenger, and it goes around and around....
I will say that aside from bold cabin decor, and too frequent cabin announcements to advertise things to me, the flight itself was actually ok.
As many American airlines openly acknowledge on their cabin announcements "we know you have a choice in your travel, and we're pleased you chose us". Yes, I do have a choice, and it won't be Ryanair again!
Let's bear in mind that Ryanair's website would not accept my Canadian Visa credit card for payment, and offered no other means for me to pay, or to contact them in any way to arrange to pay in person. A friend had to pay with his credit card, make the booking, and I had to pay him cash back. Funny though, when Ryanair wanted to collect additional payment, they were eager to accept my credit card then!
When it is obvious from the short timelines of my booking, that I had absolutely no access to my email, or a printer, to charge 40 Euro to print a boarding pass when I check in to a 39.90 Euro flight, is an entirely new experience for me - and unacceptable to me.
When the Ryanair staff member who takes and checks my booking information, and passport, prints the boarding pass saying "Jim" instead of the "James" of my passport, I don't mind. But when the next Ryanair staff member attempts to exact a further 150 Euro, to then change (correct the incorrect information they entered) the name on my ticket, I will not tolerate it. Why would I be expected to pay many times the cost of the original ticket, in additional fees, to correct an error they had transcribed?
My experience with airlines I like, is that unless the passenger was apparently wrecklessly oblivious to "the rules", they would accomodate the passenger as best as possible, with the least impact as possible. On the other hand, I felt that booking the ticket, and going through the process to board the flight was some kind of skills test, with finacial penalties at every turn, for imperfection.
That's not the way I want to travel, there can be enough stressors as it is, I don't need the airline adding to them. Obviously there are enough people who have either learned the ins and outs or are willing to go along with Ryanair's rules, to keep the flights full, so be it - but not me!
It is my opinion (having worked several years in airline customer service), that company policies which result in stressed or angry passengers, will result in longer customer service times, and stressed staff. That staff member might then take longer to do their job, and be less cheerful for the next passenger, and it goes around and around....
I will say that aside from bold cabin decor, and too frequent cabin announcements to advertise things to me, the flight itself was actually ok.
As many American airlines openly acknowledge on their cabin announcements "we know you have a choice in your travel, and we're pleased you chose us". Yes, I do have a choice, and it won't be Ryanair again!
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unless the passenger was apparently wrecklessly oblivious to "the rules", they would accomodate the passenger as best as possible, with the least impact as possible.
with finacial penalties at every turn, for imperfection.
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Airline safety ... Human psychology
No topic is of more interest to me than safety. It is the underlying reason for my membership of these boards. Other incidental topics are far far far more entertaining but none is remotely as important.
Watching the reaction a few posts above of a "member of the airline family" (I presume) who will not accept the truth about Ryanair highlights to me at least just how impossible it can be to make human beings react in a rational way.
And thatīs when sitting in front of a computer screen at 0.5m from ground level and with nothing more stressful than an illusion-piercing electronic post to engender irrational reactions !
I hope s/he isnīt allowed anywhere near the pointy-end which slams into the Pyrenees first.
Watching the reaction a few posts above of a "member of the airline family" (I presume) who will not accept the truth about Ryanair highlights to me at least just how impossible it can be to make human beings react in a rational way.
And thatīs when sitting in front of a computer screen at 0.5m from ground level and with nothing more stressful than an illusion-piercing electronic post to engender irrational reactions !
I hope s/he isnīt allowed anywhere near the pointy-end which slams into the Pyrenees first.
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Are you for real? We have crew on a ryanair contract just sitting at home.
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So to ask again. Anyone heard anything about wet leasing?
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A friend had to pay with his credit card, make the booking, and I had to pay him cash back.....Why would I be expected to pay many times the cost of the original ticket, in additional fees, to correct an error they had transcribed?