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Old 28th Apr 2009, 21:35
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Cucumbers are grown year-round in UK greenhouses.
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Old 28th Apr 2009, 21:41
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Which is where we get Greenhouse gasses from
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Old 28th Apr 2009, 22:51
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I wonder how many green protesters have a 'quiet' protest when there are plans for a new retail park on the outskirts of a town.

Im pretty sure that the proposed new terminal at LBA would not produce as much traffic as a new ASDA.

It would be interesting to hear their views on job prospects without aviation aswell, considering many of those (at LBA) were, i am told, students, and not from Leeds origionaly? Im sure not everyone wants to live in a tent growing their own rhubarb.

Simply, to withdraw aviation and easy access to the world would isolate Britain. This in turn could cast us out of the Global market.... Unless there is a worldwide restriction on airlines we will fall back much further than we are even now.
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Yes, an increasing amount of protesters are students!!! obviously they have nothing better to do than to become some kind of activist...showing us the wrongs to our ways.....Also many of these "Green people" are also from friends of the earth...who spend hours and hours driving up and down the motorway network protesting about increased CO2 levels, surely these CO2 levels would drop if the "Greens" stayed at home!!!! they seem to go from one airport to another voicing reasons why airports should not expand.....If the road networks had not expanded and made travelling easier...would these protesters still be out in force to complain about airport expansion....if the roads were not in place...surely it would be too much trouble and hard work for these people to "go out and complain"




If you would like to write to "Leeds City Council" To offer your support for Growth of LBIA...the address you need is below:


Mr T. Poupard
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The Leeds Planning Office
2 Rossington Street
Leeds
LS2 8HD

Planning ref: 08/06944

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Old 29th Apr 2009, 11:51
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surely these CO2 levels would drop if the "Greens" stayed at home
Levels would go down if they shut their mouths too

Seriously, i can see where they are coming from and agree that we must look for alternative/reusable energy but restricting airport growth and therefore making it even harder for the economy is not the way to go. I think people tend to forget that Britain is not a world influence any more, any attempt to set a standard would go largely ignored.

In the case of LBA, i hope it gets this much needed expansion, it is the only airport in the Yorkshire and Humber capable of providing a diverse network of routes. Its location is not the best but thats the way it will stay. They should make the very best of a less than ideal situation. A rail link to the station would help with connectivity.
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Levels would go down if they shut their mouths too

A point i had not concidered.......Nice one!!!
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Old 29th Apr 2009, 17:44
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Interesting!!!

Leeds Bradford International Airport
8.35 The core catchment area of Leeds Bradford International Airport encompasses the most densely populated parts of West Yorkshire, although it also draws passengers from further afield, particularly North Yorkshire. The addition of new 'no-frills' international services to the airport's existing full scheduled and charter network has brought rapid growth in 2002-2003. The airport will handle around 2mppa in 2003 and is forecast to grow to around 7mppa by 2030.
8.36 Additional terminal capacity would be required to accommodate this level of growth. A runway extension of some 300 metres may also be desirable in the future to facilitate medium and long-haul operations, and to allow a wider range of aircraft to operate non-stop services with full payloads to an extended range of destinations.
8.37 This level of growth could lead to a small increase in the number of people affected by noise, and every effort should be made to mitigate and minimise these impacts. Improvements to both public transport and road access to the airport may also be required in the medium term as passenger volumes continue to grow.
8.38 Subject to these points, we would support the further development of the airport as set out above, and we invite the local planning authority to safeguard for the runway extension should the airport operators bring forward such proposals through their airport master plan.
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Old 29th Apr 2009, 18:07
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Old 29th Apr 2009, 21:37
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16th busiest airport in Europe???????
16th busiest in UK I would have thought!
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16th busiest airport in Europe???????
16th busiest in UK I would have thought!

You are correct..it was ment to say the 16th busiest in Britain!!!
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Old 29th Apr 2009, 22:03
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In the case of LBA, i hope it gets this much needed expansion, it is the only airport in the Yorkshire and Humber capable of providing a diverse network of routes.

Just a pedantic point, pug, DSA is more capable than LBA in that respect. LBA's location is its great advantage.
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Old 29th Apr 2009, 22:30
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DSA is a brilliant airport...It is shamefully under used and it doesnt help when the Authorities refuse to allow extra cargo handling and night flights....

All this mumbo-jumbo about aircraft noise....the police helicopter is the worst offender, does anyone ever complain about that, hovering over your house at 3 in the morning!!!!!
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Old 30th Apr 2009, 01:02
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Those pics are awsome - keep 'em coming.

I've probably stood near you loads of times over the years taking pics myself, although I only had a crappy point and shoot camera with a 110 film !!!. I used to live up there on weekends (and after school) as a kid, cycling up with my packed lunch and spending the whole day watching planes.

Some of those pics should be on Airliners.net or Jetphotos.net if they aren't already - they are real classics.

Don't suppose you have a pic of the mural on the wall of the old cafe do you ?. Was such a shame they got rid of that.

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Old 30th Apr 2009, 16:31
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Quiet protest@LBA

The protestor interviewed on BBC television over LBA expansion, was this block.....Guy Mitchell, a second year Politics and Southeast Asian Studies student, was one of the Leeds Students charged for the Stansted protest and is a member of ‘Plane Stupid.’ He defended Leila Deen’s custard attack on Mandelson:

“Mandelson is an unelected member of the cabinet who has bullied members of parliament into putting the interests of BAA above the climate and people. There is nothing more apt than to cover him in than green slime.”

He added: “The lunacy of airport expansion in the face of climate change deserves protest like this.”

Who voted him, to dictate to us about climate change....it is one of the facts of life, nothing more....would be possible to fuel aircraft on Hydrogen Fuel Cells!!!!!!!! me think not!!!!!!!
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Old 30th Apr 2009, 20:34
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Nostalgia

Leezyjet,

Don't suppose you have a pic of the mural on the wall of the old cafe do you ?. Was such a shame they got rid of that.
Unfortunately, no. I always had the lense pointing in the opposite direction! Many thanks for the comments about the photographs. I have recently added some more to both the Nostalgia and Infrastructure sites. I still have quite a number I could add to the main site if there is sufficient interest, but as I have stated before, the best are probably already on the site.

I really enjoyed taking the pictures all those years ago and I am very pleased that they have been of interest to many of you after so many years in the loft.

My biggest regret? Taking an analogue camcorder instead of my Pentax ME Super and 80-200 mm lense to record the happenings on the Euro 96 day on 15th June 1996, when Spain played France at Elland Road. It was also a British Airways Concorde weekend and the weather was superb. I seem to recall seeing a Corsair 747-200, a Corsair 747SP, an AOM DC-10 plus many 737s, 727s, Airbuses, Fokker 100s, 1-11s and others that day.

Thanks again.

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Old 30th Apr 2009, 22:19
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My biggest regret? Taking an analogue camcorder instead of my Pentax ME Super and 80-200 mm lense.


Would it not be possible to upload any video you have to you tube...
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Euro 96

Runway 32/14,

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My biggest regret? Taking an analogue camcorder instead of my Pentax ME Super and 80-200 mm lense.


Would it not be possible to upload any video you have to you tube...
Unfortunately, I have never transferred anything from my camcorder to my PC, neither have I uploaded anything to You Tube. However, with some tweaks to my Win TV program and £1.68 spent at Maplins on a plug adaptor, I have managed to get some clips onto You Tube after all.

The problem is that the maximum upload size is 1 Gb, which doesn't give many seconds of footage, so I have put a few highlights on the links below. I hope that they are of interest, although Stability Control hadn't been invented in 1996 and I didn't use a tripod! I have also added a Concorde take-off from 14.

I will keep adding a few more photographs to the web sites and several more have gone on in the last few days.

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YouTube - Euro 96 AOM DC 10

YouTube - Corsair Boeing 747SP landing at Leeds/Bradford International Airport.

YouTube - Euro 96 Day at Leeds/Bradford Airport.

YouTube - Concorde 14 take off at Leeds/Bradford Airport
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Old 5th May 2009, 09:27
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What can i say....those video's you have posted are very impressive....i was amazed at the footage...i have also subscribed to your channel!!!

I bet you have some fun nights in going through your tapes and watching these on a large screen with the volume up....Fantastic footage..

I just wanted to say Thank You Richard for sharing them with us....

More please Richard, We Want More............
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"We want more, We want more, We want more"

That one of Concorde with the late landing on 32 is amazing. I've heard stories about that, but now I've actually seen it, that was very close !!.

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Terminal Extension

Hi, Is anybody able to say when the Leeds council meets again to address the Terminal Extension at Leeds/Bradford Airport, as i understand the Chief Planning Officer was to give hopefully the approval we all wait for.
I understand that the Airport Authorities were wanting to start the Terminal Extension in a few months..
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