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Old 10th May 2015, 22:13
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Here we go again! Leeds Approach decrying LBA and banging on about LEA (Leeds East Airport) or Church Fenton. Can you really call it an airport?? PLEASE use the CF thread if you have nothing positive to say about LBA on the Leeds thread.
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Old 2nd Jun 2015, 21:14
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Fun and Games

More holding, missed approaches, cancellations and diversions at LBA (highest airport in the UK) today.

After a long trek back from Tenerife it's not really what you want to end up in another city and then have to get back to LBA!

The wind was 250 degrees (right across the runway) and gusting 40 to 46 kts - Leeds East would have been ideal and the wind 10-15 kts less.

This is not a nasty campaign against Yeadon because I love the place but honesty people whether you're a pilot, enthusiast or politician.

I have noticed some of the local media and local aviation enthusiasts refuse to even mention the ideal potential replacement which I find a little childish.

Some think LBA is about to get a parallel taxiway - to do what exactly? Park planes on! It's all about future prospects.
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Old 2nd Jun 2015, 21:18
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Maybe they've not mentioned it because of the cost of tarting up Church Fenton and compensating all associated with Leeds and realised that it's not cost effective.
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Old 2nd Jun 2015, 21:32
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Lbia lost 3 flights today and the wind has now dropped below 20 kts.
One Monarch A320 and a positioning Jet 2 B737-800 plus Aer Lingus cancelled the evening rotation. Whilst it is annoying and it is true the problem would not have affected Leeds East it is not exactly a disaster is it.
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Old 2nd Jun 2015, 21:54
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Originally Posted by A300BOY
Lbia lost 3 flights today and the wind has now dropped below 20 kts.
One Monarch A320 and a positioning Jet 2 B737-800 plus Aer Lingus cancelled the evening rotation. Whilst it is annoying and it is true the problem would not have affected Leeds East it is not exactly a disaster is it.
Wilbur said to Orville "so we'll have to drive 20 miles, it is not exactly a disaster is it?" . "I don't want to drive, lets find a better way" said Orville.

That's what got you your career A300BOY - those people that try to find a better way. Now is the time for LBA enthusiasts to accept and give support to a better more efficient accessible airport with a flat runway.
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Old 3rd Jun 2015, 10:16
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CALLS FOR NEW LEEDS AIRPORT

I am not sure how to post links on here. Can somebody post a link to the Yorkshire Evening Post site to this exact story from January 2014?

I think it is a very interesting article if you study the exact wording.
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Old 3rd Jun 2015, 10:47
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As A300 boy said. We lost 3 flights despite the extreme (for the time of year) weather. We actually lost a Phenom too which went to DSA (wonder why he didn't go to CF...sorry Leeds East). BTW putting a sign on the old Station Headquarters building does not make it an airport.
The point is despite the severe Crosswinds the skills of the crews meant most flights landed. Kudos to them for avoiding the disruption to the pax with their skill and professional attitude.
Back on Leeds news, is the rumor of the parallel taxyway the full length one or the bit to the east that doesn't need the tunnel extension?
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Old 3rd Jun 2015, 12:38
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Quick google search for the article Leeds Approach refers to and here it is:

Scrap HS2 and move Leeds Airport next to M1 says council - Yorkshire Post

I know we can all pick out the bits we wish, but the telling comment to me remains this one - “A new airport could cost £5 billion. Who is going to pay for that?”
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Old 3rd Jun 2015, 12:45
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we've already got an airport with easy access to the M1, M18 and A1(M) with a new link road opening in about 10 months time… it's called Doncaster Sheffield.

it also has a near 3000m runway and CATIII ILS with oodles of land for expansion …

why build a new airport?
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Old 3rd Jun 2015, 13:14
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LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION

2.3 million people in west yorkshire and you are too far away. Hence the less than a million passengers after 10 years. Leeds city region (3.3 million people in 2024) needs an airport that is within 20 minutes. DSA will never bring about the closure of LBA and therefore Yorkshire will always be dividing itself up to fail. 1 ideal airport is required to use the entire catchment and where better than on the ECML and the Trans Pennies express and HS2?
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Old 3rd Jun 2015, 13:21
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I have stated these facts time and time again! DSA cannot even sustain a Belfast service while there is LBA MAN and EMA nearby. Not every town can have an airport when there are already established airports nearby.
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Old 3rd Jun 2015, 13:31
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LBA does a good job at what it's supposed to do.. MAN is the Northern airport for everything else, and their plans revealed yesterday show that they are to undertake a massive commitment to further growth. Ties in with the 'Northern Powerhouse' and you then will see better surface access from the likes of Leeds, Sheffield and York. So yes, not every town can have an airport. However you will always get petty parochialism, which is partly the reason the Feerybridge proposal was brushed aside. Short of someone kindly donating £1bn, the situation will stay the same.

DSA has found that to its detriment so far..
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Old 3rd Jun 2015, 13:44
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pwalhx, that's the yorkshire post version. now post the yorkshire evening post version. You need to think laterally. Exactly! who would help pay for all that when we are happily spending at yeadon on the temporary check in facility from 10 years ago. It could take decades - not why on earth would we need a new airport. Now where's that masterplan?
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Old 3rd Jun 2015, 13:52
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It had to be started now but will be a gradual process over the next 10+ years. There will still be helicopters at huy for you pug. Just think of the potential klm flights that will be available from LEA. 3+3+3+0=at least 7 flights per day.
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Old 3rd Jun 2015, 14:34
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It's strange that you've latched onto the HUY thing.. I work for a key airline that would/should feature largely in your master plan, and that is just one of them, and funnily enough they haven't even pricked their ears as I'm sure is the case with all of the others. I have spoken to people in GA in the area who know Mr Makin who say exactly the same as pretty much everyone else has on here, that he's interested in establishing a first class GA airfield with plans for non aviation related revenue, which I have also made quite clear (as have others) that I'm fully supportive of. There are no plans to turn the place into an international airport. So if you've got the cash, go offer him it, otherwise stop your trolling on the LBA thread.
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Old 3rd Jun 2015, 15:10
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Monarch

Lifestyle / Airline commits to Leeds Bradford Airport after coming through turbulence THEBUSINESSDESK.COM?
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As you asked here you go Leeds approach

Calls for new Leeds airport - Yorkshire Evening Post
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Originally Posted by pwalhx
As you asked here you go Leeds approach

Calls for new Leeds airport - Yorkshire Evening Post
Thanks very much pwalhx. I find the last line particularly interesting.
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Old 3rd Jun 2015, 17:41
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It is really just your typical PR stuff. It's a pity the A320 couldn't get through the turbulence yesterday to land..
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Old 3rd Jun 2015, 17:58
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I am in total support for their cautious approach. It really is the time to make the best of what we have. The realignment of apron stands is a masterstroke. Let the market recover for the next 5 to 10 years and then lets see where we are. The link road to the airport though is absolutely vital and should be built immediately to alleviate the frequent jams through Rawdon and Yeadon. Totally the wrong time to be thinking new aircraft stands. I love what they've done with aircraft terminal connection unit and holding zone for the East apron. Pointless throwing money at it when the world market has been in recent turmoil. It really is a time for consolidation.
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