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Consultation feedback shows overwhelming support for Manston Airport DCO proposals
Sep 20, 2016
90% of local people who took part in the recent informal consultation by RiverOak Investments support proposals for reviving Manston Airport as an airfreight hub with complementary passenger and engineering services. A further 8% of respondents said they opposed the plans and 2% are not yet sure.
More than 800 responses were received by Bircham Dyson Bell, lawyers for RiverOak Investments, following the informal consultation events held in July. Of these, 332 were handed in during the six consultation events, 268 were emailed and a further 222 hard copies were posted.
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Consultation feedback shows overwhelming support for Manston Airport DCO proposals - RiverOak Investments Corp
RiverOak Investments responds to comments by Stone Hill Park - RiverOak Investments Corp
Sep 20, 2016
90% of local people who took part in the recent informal consultation by RiverOak Investments support proposals for reviving Manston Airport as an airfreight hub with complementary passenger and engineering services. A further 8% of respondents said they opposed the plans and 2% are not yet sure.
More than 800 responses were received by Bircham Dyson Bell, lawyers for RiverOak Investments, following the informal consultation events held in July. Of these, 332 were handed in during the six consultation events, 268 were emailed and a further 222 hard copies were posted.
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Consultation feedback shows overwhelming support for Manston Airport DCO proposals - RiverOak Investments Corp
RiverOak Investments responds to comments by Stone Hill Park - RiverOak Investments Corp
How many came to the consultations Beau? I am lead to believe it was substantially less than 1% of the population of Thanet, and anyone not expressing a positive view was "re-educated" by a somewhat washed up ex bouncer...
Hardly representative of the majority of Thanet I fear.
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That's interesting Beau. Would that be the "consultations" where your followers were in charge of ALL feedback forms, names, addresses and details, and where it seems that a number of comments expressing concerns have mysteriously gone missing?
How many came to the consultations Beau? I am lead to believe it was substantially less than 1% of the population of Thanet, and anyone not expressing a positive view was "re-educated" by a somewhat washed up ex bouncer...
Hardly representative of the majority of Thanet I fear.
How many came to the consultations Beau? I am lead to believe it was substantially less than 1% of the population of Thanet, and anyone not expressing a positive view was "re-educated" by a somewhat washed up ex bouncer...
Hardly representative of the majority of Thanet I fear.
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Well well well whats been going on here then? Not a lot by the looks of things and not a lot for the future of aviation at Manston. An American property hedge fund wanting to DCO an airport, a hedge fund with all of about $10m US in an account backed up with promises of hundreds of millions from other investors but nothing in writing from these so called capitol rich people to back it up.
Sounds like someone taking a punt to me, especially as the great and mighty ex director of Planestation Mr take the cash and run Tony Freudmann is involved.
Talk of Manston taking up the slack of flights whilst the new London runway is being built. Not as easy as that, although I'm sure Dr Webber with absolutely no aviation expertise knows better.
An amazing promise of 10000 cargo flights a year as a business plan, , no chance unless the US firm has a super dooper magic wand up their arse. They will have to make do with the same cargo throughput as before with the odd Ad-Hoc charter. Passengers is a no go, just look at the previous attempts. If anyone tries to convince me that KLM was a great achievement don't bother. PAX loads of 15 - 40% with the odd 70% load factor during school holidays and weekends don't cut it. KLM were in it for the cheap ride Manston were giving them as is with most airlines operating from MSE, if you dangle the carrot some sucker will take it.
A shame but a dead duck.
Sounds like someone taking a punt to me, especially as the great and mighty ex director of Planestation Mr take the cash and run Tony Freudmann is involved.
Talk of Manston taking up the slack of flights whilst the new London runway is being built. Not as easy as that, although I'm sure Dr Webber with absolutely no aviation expertise knows better.
An amazing promise of 10000 cargo flights a year as a business plan, , no chance unless the US firm has a super dooper magic wand up their arse. They will have to make do with the same cargo throughput as before with the odd Ad-Hoc charter. Passengers is a no go, just look at the previous attempts. If anyone tries to convince me that KLM was a great achievement don't bother. PAX loads of 15 - 40% with the odd 70% load factor during school holidays and weekends don't cut it. KLM were in it for the cheap ride Manston were giving them as is with most airlines operating from MSE, if you dangle the carrot some sucker will take it.
A shame but a dead duck.
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If anyone tries to convince me that KLM was a great achievement don't bother. PAX loads of 15 - 40% with the odd 70% load factor during school holidays and weekends don't cut it.
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RiverOak have just published the first shot in their Rebuttal to the Avia Report :
Sent to TDC Councillors and Officers, the Media, and on the RiverOak website :
Letter to Thanet Council Chief Executive from Bircham Dyson Bell
Letter to Thanet Council Chief Executive from Bircham Dyson Bell - RiverOak Investments Corp
http://cdn.riveroakinvestments.co.uk...via-Report.pdf
Sent to TDC Councillors and Officers, the Media, and on the RiverOak website :
Letter to Thanet Council Chief Executive from Bircham Dyson Bell
Letter to Thanet Council Chief Executive from Bircham Dyson Bell - RiverOak Investments Corp
http://cdn.riveroakinvestments.co.uk...via-Report.pdf
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In all honesty I think Manstons future was decided ALONG TIME AGO if anyone really envisages this airfield ever reopening as a commercial airport again obviously have their heads firmly in the sand.
In all honesty I think Manstons future was decided ALONG TIME AGO if anyone really envisages this airfield ever reopening as a commercial airport again obviously have their heads firmly in the sand.
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So much history.
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Not all fine histories make fine museums just think about the daily footfall in most museums outside the capital especially aviation museums and the costs involved so just because something has history there is absolutely no guarantee that it will be successful as a museum as we in Southampton only know too well.
Not all fine histories make fine museums just think about the daily footfall in most museums outside the capital especially aviation museums and the costs involved so just because something has history there is absolutely no guarantee that it will be successful as a museum as we in Southampton only know too well.
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An excellent Christmas present to SMAa – RiverOak gain Section 53 access to Manston Airport.
Excellent news!
RiverOak welcomes permission to access Manston Airport site from the Planning Inspectorate - RiverOak Investments Corp
Dec 20, 2016 | Media statement
"On Monday 19 December the Planning Inspectorate confirmed to Bircham Dyson Bell, lawyers for RiverOak, that Section 53 authorisation (permission to access the Manston Airport site), has now been granted.
Whilst a considerable amount of environmental analysis has already been completed, access to the site has always been preferable to provide the necessary level of detail for a Development Consent Order application. RiverOak’s environmental consulting team, led by Amec Foster Wheeler, will now make arrangements to visit the site as soon as possible in order to assess the site for the production of the Environmental Statement that will accompany the application. As much data as possible will also be used for the Preliminary Environmental Information Report.
This report, together with other work already well underway, will be made available during the process of statutory consultation, which will take place as soon as possible in 2017."
Save Manston Airport association (SMAa) say :
Despite SHP's constant excuses for obstructing the process, the Secretary of State has at last granted RiverOak legal access to Manston Airport through an Order under section 53 of the 2008 Planning Act (an "s53"). SHP or their agents will now be committing an offence if they wilfully obstruct RiverOak's team in their activities.
Law of Property Act 1925
Since "some previous s53 authorisations have been the subject of judicial review" PINS have had to make sure to dot every i and cross every t, hence the length of time taken. This means, amongst other things, that RiverOak have satisfied PINS they have tried every means possible to negotiate access directly with SHP, but without success. Since PINS have recommended the s53 and the Secretary of State has granted it under these circumstances, we can be confident that the Secretary of State feels the request by RiverOak is "lawful and proportionate".
https://infrastructure.planninginspe...ice=1b5f29c385
It should be noted that the Secretary of State will only authorise entry in relation to a proposed DCO application if it appears to the Secretary of State that RiverOak 'is considering a distinct project of real substance genuinely requiring entry onto the land'.
Dr. Beau Webber
Chairman, Save Manston Airport association.
[email protected]
Documentation web page : Documentation - Save Manston Airport association
Facebook Page : https://www.facebook.com/savemanston...ationofficial/ http://bit.ly/SMAa_page
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Excellent news!
RiverOak welcomes permission to access Manston Airport site from the Planning Inspectorate - RiverOak Investments Corp
Dec 20, 2016 | Media statement
"On Monday 19 December the Planning Inspectorate confirmed to Bircham Dyson Bell, lawyers for RiverOak, that Section 53 authorisation (permission to access the Manston Airport site), has now been granted.
Whilst a considerable amount of environmental analysis has already been completed, access to the site has always been preferable to provide the necessary level of detail for a Development Consent Order application. RiverOak’s environmental consulting team, led by Amec Foster Wheeler, will now make arrangements to visit the site as soon as possible in order to assess the site for the production of the Environmental Statement that will accompany the application. As much data as possible will also be used for the Preliminary Environmental Information Report.
This report, together with other work already well underway, will be made available during the process of statutory consultation, which will take place as soon as possible in 2017."
Save Manston Airport association (SMAa) say :
Despite SHP's constant excuses for obstructing the process, the Secretary of State has at last granted RiverOak legal access to Manston Airport through an Order under section 53 of the 2008 Planning Act (an "s53"). SHP or their agents will now be committing an offence if they wilfully obstruct RiverOak's team in their activities.
Law of Property Act 1925
Since "some previous s53 authorisations have been the subject of judicial review" PINS have had to make sure to dot every i and cross every t, hence the length of time taken. This means, amongst other things, that RiverOak have satisfied PINS they have tried every means possible to negotiate access directly with SHP, but without success. Since PINS have recommended the s53 and the Secretary of State has granted it under these circumstances, we can be confident that the Secretary of State feels the request by RiverOak is "lawful and proportionate".
https://infrastructure.planninginspe...ice=1b5f29c385
It should be noted that the Secretary of State will only authorise entry in relation to a proposed DCO application if it appears to the Secretary of State that RiverOak 'is considering a distinct project of real substance genuinely requiring entry onto the land'.
Dr. Beau Webber
Chairman, Save Manston Airport association.
[email protected]
Documentation web page : Documentation - Save Manston Airport association
Facebook Page : https://www.facebook.com/savemanston...ationofficial/ http://bit.ly/SMAa_page
Facebook Group : https://www.facebook.com/groups/save...rtassociation/ http://bit.ly/SMAa_group
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National Planning Inspectorate approves Riveroak Access to Manston Airfield
National Planning Inspectorate approves
Riveroak Access to Manston Airfield
Now confirmed on Inspectorate web-site
2017-01-09
Riveroak Access to Manston Airfield
Now confirmed on Inspectorate web-site
2017-01-09
The Secretary of State is satisfied on the basis of the Recommendation Report, including the draft Authorisation (and annexes) that he may authorise entry onto the Land (identified in the Plan at Annex 2 of the Authorisation) subject to conditions (set out in Annex 3 of the Authorisation) under section 53(1) for the purposes of non-intrusive surveys, which includes the powers conferred under section 53(3) and section 53(3A) of the Act, and that this authorisation is justified and proportionate in the wider public interest.
One Page Summary :
The information provided by the Applicant demonstrates that the Applicant sought to agree access to the Land with the Landowner between 10 February 2016 and 1 July 2016. Subsequent to the submission of their section 53 authorisation request, the Applicant continued to engage in negotiations for voluntary land access with the Landowner. Following the Applicant’s agreement to all of the voluntary access licence terms by letter on 7 October 2016, the Applicant was refused access by the Landowner on 27 October 2016. The Secretary of State concludes that there is nothing in the correspondence to suggest that further negotiations would result in the reaching of an agreement. ….
The Secretary of State does not consider that the arguments put forward in correspondence provide grounds to refuse authorisation for entry onto the Land subject to certain conditions to protect the interests of the Landowner and Occupiers. For the reasons set out within the Recommendation Report, the Secretary of State considers that these tests have been met for the purposes of the s53 authorisation.
Entry to the Land is needed now to enable the Applicant to complete its environmental surveys. The Secretary of State considers that the scope of surveys identified in Annex 4 of the Authorisation is consistent with the scope of surveys required to prepare an Environmental Impact Assessment and Habitat Regulations Assessment to support their Application for a Development Consent Order. ……..
… the Secretary of State concludes that the Applicant has acted reasonably in attempting to gain access to the Land and that the Landowners have unreasonably refused access. ……
The Secretary of State is satisfied on the basis of the Recommendation Report, including the draft Authorisation (and annexes) that he may authorise entry onto the Land (identified in the Plan at Annex 2 of the Authorisation) subject to conditions (set out in Annex 3 of the Authorisation) under section 53(1) for the purposes of non-intrusive surveys, which includes the powers conferred under section 53(3) and section 53(3A) of the Act, and that this authorisation is justified and proportionate in the wider public interest.
Simone Wilding
Head of Major Casework Management
For and on behalf of the Secretary of State for Communities and
Local Government
16 December 2016
Or for all the detail :
https://infrastructure.planninginspe...pcsection=docs
https://infrastructure.planninginspe...%20K806190.zip
For the record, this is Stone Hill Park's acceptance, that they will not appeal :
“We are pleased with the conditions the Planning Inspectorate has placed on this access and as a result we will accept the decision rather than appeal.
“We are satisfied the Planning Inspectorate has performed the process with integrity and to a very high standard and now intend to assist RiverOak in accessing our site to carry out these environmental tests. …”
SHP's conditions were voided by their failure to grant RiverOak access prior to this S53 statement by PINS.
http://www.savemanstonairport.org.uk/
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Productive site visit to #manston today by the environmental team working on the DCO. Thanks to the airfield security team for assistance.
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Productive site visit to #manston today by the environmental team working on the DCO. Thanks to the airfield security team for assistance.
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Manston Airport Change-of-Use Inquiry - Videos.
In the week 14th to 17th March, the National Planning Inspectorate held an Inquiry in the Thanet District Council chamber,
into an appeal by Lothian Shelf 718 / Manston Skyport / Stone Hill Park / Ann Gloag, requesting a change of use for four
Manston Airport hangars / air -side warehouses, into general purpose use, from the current aviation only use.
RiverOak Strategic Partners(RSP) the new UK company progressing the Development Consent Order (DCO)
to re-open Manston Airport for aviation use, opposed the appeal.
Finally, after more than a week, in 39 sections, we believe all the main evidence has been videoed and uploaded
(we both omitted to video Simon Crow, I am afraid.)
There are minor other link sections as well, so please ask if you are looking for one of those.
March 2017 – Change of Use Inquiry
Even before they had all been uploaded, these videos had been watched a total of 860 times.
SMAa would like to thank the inspector for the highly courteous and immaculate way in which he carried out the Inquiry.
He is expected to announce his conclusions in May.
Dr. Beau Webber
Chairman, Save Manston Airport association (SMAa)
[email protected]
Documentation web page : Documentation - Save Manston Airport association
Facebook Page : https://www.facebook.com/savemanston...ationofficial/ http://bit.ly/SMAa_page
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In view of the confusion being sown by Thanet local newspapers and other media, and some Thanet Councillors, SMAa have printed and are currently distributing 30,000 leaflets that make the point :
Manston Airport is Returning.
Current SMAa Handout - Save Manston Airport association
By the end of April, about 35,000 leaflets will have been delivered in Thanet, and about 5,000 in the rest of East Kent.
Manston Airport is Returning.
Current SMAa Handout - Save Manston Airport association
By the end of April, about 35,000 leaflets will have been delivered in Thanet, and about 5,000 in the rest of East Kent.
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