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WTF ? Who?s Tony Freudmann? ? Herne Bay Matters
Manston airport: Former managing director Tony Freudmann acting for American group RiverOak who had £5m offer rejected before closure announcement
WTF ? Who?s Tony Freudmann? ? Herne Bay Matters
Manston airport: Former managing director Tony Freudmann acting for American group RiverOak who had £5m offer rejected before closure announcement
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A very successful and extremely well attended Save Manston Airport association first Annual General Meeting on Sunday 31st January 2016.
The room was too small for all the SMA members that turned up, and we had to stop entrance 10 minutes before the 2pm advertised start of the meeting, with many listening outside the doors.
Dan Light, SMA Founder, welcomed everyone, and then Sir Roger Gale (MP for North Thanet) gave a rousing speech, with a reference to investors he had met in the City, waiting to fund the next stages when needed.
Tony Freudmann of RiverOak, went into fascinating detail about the next stages of the Development Consent Order (DCO) process.
Now listed on the National Planning Inspectorate web site, at the pre-application stage, the fact that this is at a National Planning level means that the DCO trumps any local CPO process.
Once the RiverOak Planning Teams are all in place, we will start hearing about the public consultation, some time perhaps early Summer.
Alan Marsh, KCC Councillor, and Aviator of some repute, has a significant post on an important cargo airline consortium, and in his speech he indicated how very many aviation firms were asking “to be first back at Manston”!
Following the Chairman’s address, minor technical changes to the SMA Constitution were accepted by the members unanimously, and following Candidates’ Personal statements, a slightly increased committee of ten were also voted in unanimously.
The meeting ended with a few more speeches, including a rousing one by SMA’s first Chairman, Keith Churcher, followed by an impassioned one by Sue Girdler of TG Aviation, saying how much TG wanted to return to Manston Airport.
Dr Beau Webber
Chairman, Save Manston Airport association.
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Maybe Manston should be talking to Amazon
Amazon in talks to lease Boeing jets to launch its own air-cargo business | The Seattle Times
Could be a good base for USA to Europe connections with lots of room for warehousing.
Amazon in talks to lease Boeing jets to launch its own air-cargo business | The Seattle Times
Could be a good base for USA to Europe connections with lots of room for warehousing.
Unfortunately, Amazon already have existing warehousing elsewhere in the country, and are currently building huge new facilities – again, elsewhere in the country. There are airports with long runways and operational cargo handling facilities close to these warehouses, so I can’t see that Amazon would have the slightest interest in an airport that’s nowhere near where them, is no longer operational, and would require additional investment to re-open.
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Manston Airport: Three investors come forward as potential partners to run airport
Thanet council says three would-be investors have come forward as potential indemnity partners to run Manston as an airport.
The authority said there had been five expressions of interest following what is known as a soft marketing exercise to gauge interest, after it rejected the American consortium RiverOak as a potential partner last year.
In a statement issued tonight, the council said: “The council recently carried out a soft market testing exercise to seek interest in becoming an indemnity partner for the compulsory acquisition of Manston Airport.”
“A Prior Information Notice (PIN) calling for expressions of interest was published in the Office Journal of the European Union (OJEU) on Friday 15 January.
“Parties had until Tuesday 9 February to register their interest. A total of five expressions of interest were received by this deadline.
“The interested parties then had until Friday 12 February to submit responses to a follow-up questionnaire.
"These questions were posed to operators in the market to establish the extent of their interest, capacity and capability. A total of three valid submissions were received.”
The findings of this exercise are to be reported to cabinet.”
The council is facing a challenge from RiverOak over the future of the site.
The company is pursuing its attempt to buy the former Manston airport by applying for the same special planning powers allocated to proposals for a Paramount resort in north Kent.
RiverOak said its pursuit of the permission, known as a Development Consent Order, was justified because the runway was a project of national significance.
The current owners of the 800-acre site say they want to develop what they have renamed Stone Hill Park as a mixed-use site for businesses and housing.
A tweet from the owners tonight indicated that they are still determined to carry forward its plans, saying: "We have been consistent from the start about the core elements of our proposed scheme for the former airport.”
Thanet council says three would-be investors have come forward as potential indemnity partners to run Manston as an airport.
The authority said there had been five expressions of interest following what is known as a soft marketing exercise to gauge interest, after it rejected the American consortium RiverOak as a potential partner last year.
In a statement issued tonight, the council said: “The council recently carried out a soft market testing exercise to seek interest in becoming an indemnity partner for the compulsory acquisition of Manston Airport.”
“A Prior Information Notice (PIN) calling for expressions of interest was published in the Office Journal of the European Union (OJEU) on Friday 15 January.
“Parties had until Tuesday 9 February to register their interest. A total of five expressions of interest were received by this deadline.
“The interested parties then had until Friday 12 February to submit responses to a follow-up questionnaire.
"These questions were posed to operators in the market to establish the extent of their interest, capacity and capability. A total of three valid submissions were received.”
The findings of this exercise are to be reported to cabinet.”
The council is facing a challenge from RiverOak over the future of the site.
The company is pursuing its attempt to buy the former Manston airport by applying for the same special planning powers allocated to proposals for a Paramount resort in north Kent.
RiverOak said its pursuit of the permission, known as a Development Consent Order, was justified because the runway was a project of national significance.
The current owners of the 800-acre site say they want to develop what they have renamed Stone Hill Park as a mixed-use site for businesses and housing.
A tweet from the owners tonight indicated that they are still determined to carry forward its plans, saying: "We have been consistent from the start about the core elements of our proposed scheme for the former airport.”
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The Telegraph has today printed the following letter from the Save Manston Airport association :
Here it is: Letters: An airport in Kent that could keep everyone happy
Here it is: Letters: An airport in Kent that could keep everyone happy
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Herewith the first of many of the RiverOak planning documents relating to Manston Airport and the DCO.
It relates to proposals / plans by other companies, to construct two or more microwave communications towers over 300m tall, in the vicinity of Manston Airport, to facilitate high speed trading.
Document sent to both Dover and Thanet planning departments.
http://www.savemanstonairport.org.uk...Assessment.pdf
It relates to proposals / plans by other companies, to construct two or more microwave communications towers over 300m tall, in the vicinity of Manston Airport, to facilitate high speed trading.
Document sent to both Dover and Thanet planning departments.
http://www.savemanstonairport.org.uk...Assessment.pdf
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see 1868 (http://www.pprune.org/airlines-airpo...ml#post9172936) for some names of backers that have been leaked.
Customers Orix Aviation
Customers Orix Aviation
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Latest Manston Airport Development Consent Order (DCO) news :
On Thursday 28th April Tony Freudmann of RiverOak (RO) addressed a very congenial crowd of around 50 people at Cliffsend Parish Hall. It was a very factual account, acknowledging that, whilst RO were initially very disappointed that the Compulsory Purchase Order (CPO) with Thanet District Council (TDC) didn't go ahead, they accept that the possible risk perceived by TDC, (that of being involved in a multi-million pound project such as Manston Airport, despite the fact that RO were indemnity partners), was too much for a small district council to cope with.
RiverOak are now working with HM Planning Inspectorate (PINS) with regular meetings and discussions, all of which are minuted and can be read on the PINS website, to develop and validate RiverOak's plans for the Development Consent Order (DCO). Manston Airport is being considered as being of national importance, therefore attaching the title of NSIP (Nationally Significant Infrastructure Project) to the DCO. RO’s aim is to achieve acceptance of their DCO application by PINS by the end of 2016. Acceptance is not the end of the process but will be a big step towards securing the full DCO.
Specialist legal, planning and environmental teams were appointed in January and have made significant progress. However they are so far not being allowed access to the airport by the present owners, as is legally required. During their last conference call with the Planning Inspectorate RiverOak raised this matter. The Planning Inspectorate have power under the Planning Act 2008 to order site access.
RO anticipate the Manston project will over time involve capital expenditure in excess of £200Million as it will involve major reconstruction and additional work on the airport site, to enable Manston to have the capacity to handle 10,000 freight movements a year, as well as improving the site access and infrastructure around Spitfire corner. RO will also liaise with both the Spitfire and RAF museums before final plans are in place. RO anticipate costs of at least £15Million to replace all the basic infrastructure removed by the present owners.
Very extensive environmental assessment will be undertaken to look into effects on air quality, noise pollution, water quality, wildlife, etc. The scope of the environmental study is expected to provide the Isle of Thanet with the most thorough health check of the centre of the island that has ever been produced to date.
Employing local people will be a priority and involving educational programmes is part of the submission. Manston is anticipated to be roughly comparable with East Midlands Airport in the future, which is mostly freight but with passenger flights too. There the current figures are that the airport supports a total of 6,000 jobs on an annual turnover of approximately £100 Million.
RiverOak intend to hold pre-consultation(s) in June or July, with a full formal consultation to be held in the late summer. Local residents will have their chance to express opinions and these will be listened to and acted upon.
(A summary by Save Manston Airport association).
More information : Save Manston Airport | Campaign to save Manston Airport
On Thursday 28th April Tony Freudmann of RiverOak (RO) addressed a very congenial crowd of around 50 people at Cliffsend Parish Hall. It was a very factual account, acknowledging that, whilst RO were initially very disappointed that the Compulsory Purchase Order (CPO) with Thanet District Council (TDC) didn't go ahead, they accept that the possible risk perceived by TDC, (that of being involved in a multi-million pound project such as Manston Airport, despite the fact that RO were indemnity partners), was too much for a small district council to cope with.
RiverOak are now working with HM Planning Inspectorate (PINS) with regular meetings and discussions, all of which are minuted and can be read on the PINS website, to develop and validate RiverOak's plans for the Development Consent Order (DCO). Manston Airport is being considered as being of national importance, therefore attaching the title of NSIP (Nationally Significant Infrastructure Project) to the DCO. RO’s aim is to achieve acceptance of their DCO application by PINS by the end of 2016. Acceptance is not the end of the process but will be a big step towards securing the full DCO.
Specialist legal, planning and environmental teams were appointed in January and have made significant progress. However they are so far not being allowed access to the airport by the present owners, as is legally required. During their last conference call with the Planning Inspectorate RiverOak raised this matter. The Planning Inspectorate have power under the Planning Act 2008 to order site access.
RO anticipate the Manston project will over time involve capital expenditure in excess of £200Million as it will involve major reconstruction and additional work on the airport site, to enable Manston to have the capacity to handle 10,000 freight movements a year, as well as improving the site access and infrastructure around Spitfire corner. RO will also liaise with both the Spitfire and RAF museums before final plans are in place. RO anticipate costs of at least £15Million to replace all the basic infrastructure removed by the present owners.
Very extensive environmental assessment will be undertaken to look into effects on air quality, noise pollution, water quality, wildlife, etc. The scope of the environmental study is expected to provide the Isle of Thanet with the most thorough health check of the centre of the island that has ever been produced to date.
Employing local people will be a priority and involving educational programmes is part of the submission. Manston is anticipated to be roughly comparable with East Midlands Airport in the future, which is mostly freight but with passenger flights too. There the current figures are that the airport supports a total of 6,000 jobs on an annual turnover of approximately £100 Million.
RiverOak intend to hold pre-consultation(s) in June or July, with a full formal consultation to be held in the late summer. Local residents will have their chance to express opinions and these will be listened to and acted upon.
(A summary by Save Manston Airport association).
More information : Save Manston Airport | Campaign to save Manston Airport
RiverOak are now working with HM Planning Inspectorate (PINS) with regular meetings and discussions, all of which are minuted and can be read on the PINS website, to develop and validate RiverOak's plans for the Development Consent Order (DCO).
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As someone not in the area am very confused, read loads and loads about Manston closing as an airport and now loads that it might not, or could be, maybe and definitely, and latest in the future, might handle.
Whats happened to those horrible plans to turn it into a lorry park for the motorway.Have they now gone away, or is Manstons future path going to drag on now for years and years ?
Whats happened to those horrible plans to turn it into a lorry park for the motorway.Have they now gone away, or is Manstons future path going to drag on now for years and years ?
The bit about Manston closing is correct. It is an ex-airport. The new owners have non-aviation related plans for it's future use.
An American investment company, Riveroak, have expressed interest in re-opening it, and Manston's local fans are supportive of this. The trouble is that Riveroak don't actually own Manston so they've been trying to persuade the local council to issue a Compulsory Purchase Order (CPO). The council, however, are not particularly enthusiastic about this and have declined to intervene. Riveroak are now trying to pursue their aims through a device called a Development Consent Order (DCO) which is a way of obtaining planning permission for 'Nationally Significant Infrastructure Projects'.
Quite how a) they plan to do this over the heads of owners who are unwilling to sell, and b) they intend to persuade HM Planning Inspectorate that an obscure former airport is of national significance isn't clear, but Riveroak seemed determined to press on and they have allies in some local politicians as well as Manston's small but vocal fan club.
So yes, you're probably right in speculating this may drag on for years.
An American investment company, Riveroak, have expressed interest in re-opening it, and Manston's local fans are supportive of this. The trouble is that Riveroak don't actually own Manston so they've been trying to persuade the local council to issue a Compulsory Purchase Order (CPO). The council, however, are not particularly enthusiastic about this and have declined to intervene. Riveroak are now trying to pursue their aims through a device called a Development Consent Order (DCO) which is a way of obtaining planning permission for 'Nationally Significant Infrastructure Projects'.
Quite how a) they plan to do this over the heads of owners who are unwilling to sell, and b) they intend to persuade HM Planning Inspectorate that an obscure former airport is of national significance isn't clear, but Riveroak seemed determined to press on and they have allies in some local politicians as well as Manston's small but vocal fan club.
So yes, you're probably right in speculating this may drag on for years.
Interesting that they predict that they will be the same size as EMA within ten years in terms of freight (but with the night flying ban still in place).
Either they have an as yet undisclosed agreement in place with one of the big boys or they are being quite "brave"
Either they have an as yet undisclosed agreement in place with one of the big boys or they are being quite "brave"
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"However they are so far not being allowed access to the airport by the present owners, as is legally required."
legally required?? To allow another company onto your land?????? I think not........
legally required?? To allow another company onto your land?????? I think not........
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Am I missing something here, this company expects to handle of upwards of 10,000 cargo movements annually and pray where do they think they are going to get them from. I cannot see DHL, UPS and FedEx relocating from EMA, Luton, Stansted and Heathrow to operate from Manston. It is in the backwaters of rural Kent sorry but you might get some flying pigs - but not the 737 and 747 kind!