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Wow what a lot of cat-fighting!! I haven`t been on here in weeks, but I see nothing has changed!!! To those of you without jobs- my best wishes in finding work. I have not been in that situation(yet) but have friends who have and I understand very well how difficult it is. That said, just because the EI cabin crew have good jobs, does not mean they should throw it all out the window because they are more fortunate than others. "The only constant is change" they say and nowhere more-so than aviation. All groups in EI have accepted this need to change, however it is the effect of these changes on peoples lives that are important. Yes lots of people get up every morning at 4am - but cabin crew don`t. Under the changes envisaged by management, they can get up at 4 followed by 6 followed by 4 again followed by 4 pm to go to NY! All of this is "legal" but not healthy and not safe on a sustained basis.
The IAD-MAD service continues to operate normally as it is staffed by EI cabin crew resident in the States. This service has on occasion been supplemented by DUB based crew to cover shortfalls. This is what IMPACT are not allowing. IMPACT represent over 90% of EI cabin crew.
The IAD-MAD service continues to operate normally as it is staffed by EI cabin crew resident in the States. This service has on occasion been supplemented by DUB based crew to cover shortfalls. This is what IMPACT are not allowing. IMPACT represent over 90% of EI cabin crew.
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DAA have confirmed the opening of T2:
1st official flight shall arrive on Nov 19.
Aer Lingus shall commence London flights on Nov 23
All other shorthaul from Nov 30
Longhaul from Dec 7
I wonder will the 1st flight be EI? As the DAA biggest customer at DUB and for the assistance during the T2 trials I would think so.
On another note RTE being fed EI mgmt propaganda:
"For the last week, cabin crew have been working strictly to their contract in a row over new rosters - though both management and the union stress that they do not anticipate any disruption to flights.
Staff have refused to operate new cost-saving rosters which the airline wants to implement, because they say they go beyond what was originally agreed and will cause excessive hardship for employees"
The underlined statement is blatantly untrue. The cabin are continuing to work the disputed duties/shifts. These have been imposed since July. EI have unilaterally added extra changes on top of the March 2010 Greenfield plan. This plan never mentioned any change to the contractual duty time limits, since July EI have been rostering crew over the contractual duty time. They have also been ignoring their part-time/job sharing agreement with their cabin crew.
1st official flight shall arrive on Nov 19.
Aer Lingus shall commence London flights on Nov 23
All other shorthaul from Nov 30
Longhaul from Dec 7
I wonder will the 1st flight be EI? As the DAA biggest customer at DUB and for the assistance during the T2 trials I would think so.
On another note RTE being fed EI mgmt propaganda:
"For the last week, cabin crew have been working strictly to their contract in a row over new rosters - though both management and the union stress that they do not anticipate any disruption to flights.
Staff have refused to operate new cost-saving rosters which the airline wants to implement, because they say they go beyond what was originally agreed and will cause excessive hardship for employees"
The underlined statement is blatantly untrue. The cabin are continuing to work the disputed duties/shifts. These have been imposed since July. EI have unilaterally added extra changes on top of the March 2010 Greenfield plan. This plan never mentioned any change to the contractual duty time limits, since July EI have been rostering crew over the contractual duty time. They have also been ignoring their part-time/job sharing agreement with their cabin crew.
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T2
EI T/A flights to operate from T2 from 7 December, but with the "old pre clearance arrangements".
Anyone know if this refers to the fact only some EI flights use it and not them all?
Anyone know if this refers to the fact only some EI flights use it and not them all?
I believe that any delays in starting full Customs Border Preclearance are because CBP are not ready. It is not an airline problem and full clearance should be available in Jan or Feb.
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Originally Posted by EI-AAA
EI T/A flights to operate from T2 from 7 December, but with the "old pre clearance arrangements".
Anyone know if this refers to the fact only some EI flights use it and not them all?
Anyone know if this refers to the fact only some EI flights use it and not them all?
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Iberia used to have the bananas idea of arriving to term.5 at KORD, and then having the a340 towed to the american terminal, for boarding.
seems simple, but have you ever seen the volume of traffic taxiing at O'Hare?
seems simple, but have you ever seen the volume of traffic taxiing at O'Hare?
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Iberia used to have the bananas idea of arriving to term.5 at KORD, and then having the a340 towed to the american terminal, for boarding.
seems simple, but have you ever seen the volume of traffic taxiing at O'Hare?
seems simple, but have you ever seen the volume of traffic taxiing at O'Hare?
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Terminal 1 Heathrow
I flew back from LHR yesterday and was very annoyed by the new system BAA have introduced at the EI (and BM) gates.
I was departing gate 84, a BM flight had just arrived at gate 83/82? and they closed off the passage to everyone but the deplaning BM passengers.
The EI flight had been called for boarding but nobody could move, as we were all corralled by the glass doors, and had to wait for ALL the BM passengers to
disembark before they opened the doors, and a mad rush for the now closing EI flight.
For years Irish passengers have put up with this dreadful terminal, and now this nonsense.
There was some meaningless rubbish notice about "Security" posted on the doors, but had we not passed through several layers of security minutes before, and I would assume the arriving BM passengers also must have been cleared before departure as well.
If there was an incident during this wait, we were all locked in, there was no way out, surely a serious health and safety issue.
Has anyone else experienced this?
I was departing gate 84, a BM flight had just arrived at gate 83/82? and they closed off the passage to everyone but the deplaning BM passengers.
The EI flight had been called for boarding but nobody could move, as we were all corralled by the glass doors, and had to wait for ALL the BM passengers to
disembark before they opened the doors, and a mad rush for the now closing EI flight.
For years Irish passengers have put up with this dreadful terminal, and now this nonsense.
There was some meaningless rubbish notice about "Security" posted on the doors, but had we not passed through several layers of security minutes before, and I would assume the arriving BM passengers also must have been cleared before departure as well.
If there was an incident during this wait, we were all locked in, there was no way out, surely a serious health and safety issue.
Has anyone else experienced this?
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The nonsense procedure at Terminal 1 is just nuts and only introduced in the last few years. It seems that arriving domestic passengers can mix freely but arriving ROI passengers need to be kept apart.
Does anyone know why? It perplexes me greatly.
Does anyone know why? It perplexes me greatly.
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My understanding is that arriving domestic passengers are deemed to have cleared UK security. Whereas passengers
from the Republic of Ireland have only cleared what they must consider the ‘less’ secure Irish security checks and therefore
must pass through security again before they are allowed to board a connecting flight. A very annoying setup indeed.
from the Republic of Ireland have only cleared what they must consider the ‘less’ secure Irish security checks and therefore
must pass through security again before they are allowed to board a connecting flight. A very annoying setup indeed.
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The T1 setup is annoying. It's not that Irish security is deemed inferior, it's that UK regulations require all international arriving passengers to be separated from outbound passengers, all international arriving passengers must clear UK security before onward journey can commence. The set-up at T1 is the only way to do it with the physical limitations of that building. Unfortunately that pier is to Remain as part of any LHR master plan I have seen. Things will only change if EI were to move terminal. Given theta are about to renovate the gold circle lounge, my guess is that they are going to stay at T1 for the long term.
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Not sure that's the case as International Arrivals have been sterile and segregated for years but the annoying system at T1 is relatively recent. Also there is a common travel area between the UK and the ROI.
I think the non DFT Controlled security issue is the one. Utter madness, as we should be moving towards a common EU security standard at the very least.
I think the non DFT Controlled security issue is the one. Utter madness, as we should be moving towards a common EU security standard at the very least.
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Reply from BAA
Result: Complete waste of time, better off sending it to Santa!
"Thank you for your email regarding your recent journeys through Heathrow. I am very sorry you are so unhappy with the service provided at the gate in Terminal 1.
We take these issues very seriously/ Please be assured that I have passed your feedback on to the manager at the terminal. We will use your comments when we next review the organisation and arrangement of the gates.
Thank you for bringing this to our attention. I trust you will begin to see improvements on future visits to our airport"
"Thank you for your email regarding your recent journeys through Heathrow. I am very sorry you are so unhappy with the service provided at the gate in Terminal 1.
We take these issues very seriously/ Please be assured that I have passed your feedback on to the manager at the terminal. We will use your comments when we next review the organisation and arrangement of the gates.
Thank you for bringing this to our attention. I trust you will begin to see improvements on future visits to our airport"
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Aer Lingus Pilots to take Industrial action
I have just been informend from a reliable source that the pilots union at Aer Lingus have told management that they are going to take industrial action shortly for failure to implement current agreements. First the Cabin Crew and now the Pilots. Whats going on at EI ?
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Now thats a bit sensational now. To clarify the union has written to the new Director of Flight Ops listing a number of breaches of our agreements. Aer Lingus were happy to cut our pay, increments and sector pay before the ink had dried on the Greenfield agreement last October but now a year on they don't want to get around the table and agree to things like a fixed pattern roster plus about another 10 or so clear breaches of our agreements.
The only reason you are getting from A to B is largely because of the goodwill of the staff of AL. We are short of pilots and cabin crew. As far as I am aware AL got its numbers wrong again (they do it all the time) but are hamstrung in recruiting as the voluntary service scheme has only just closed out. I can only speak as a pilot and say that the goodwill of our mob is quickly drying up and we are sick of hearing the same old tired excuses. I for one will never answer my phone on my day(s) off nor do I know anyone else that will.
We have written stating that we reserve the right "up to and including withdrawal of services". In union parlance this generally means get around the table and hammer out a deal.
The only reason you are getting from A to B is largely because of the goodwill of the staff of AL. We are short of pilots and cabin crew. As far as I am aware AL got its numbers wrong again (they do it all the time) but are hamstrung in recruiting as the voluntary service scheme has only just closed out. I can only speak as a pilot and say that the goodwill of our mob is quickly drying up and we are sick of hearing the same old tired excuses. I for one will never answer my phone on my day(s) off nor do I know anyone else that will.
We have written stating that we reserve the right "up to and including withdrawal of services". In union parlance this generally means get around the table and hammer out a deal.
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I thought that as a regular fare paying passenger, I got from A to B because I paid for the privilege. Sorry for getting that so wrong now I know it is down to the Goodwill of the pilots!