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At one stage there was talk of up to 60 Executive jets per day diverting in to clear customs.
If you can afford exec across Atlantic then Helicopter from Westchester to NYC is not a big add on.
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It will bring nothing in the short term 5-10 years but medium term 10-15 years if things pick up it may just be the ticket that DUB needs.
Its a shame that the airport people will be opening the new terminal with the loss of AA rather than an opening and the launch of new routes and destinations.
Its a shame that the airport people will be opening the new terminal with the loss of AA rather than an opening and the launch of new routes and destinations.
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It will, hopefully, bring in a lot more connecting traffic for Aer Lingus. If you have to connect somewhere to get from europe to your final/intermediate destination in the States, you may as well use the 2/3 hours allowed for your connection constructively by clearing immigration and customs, freeing you at the far end to just walk out of the terminal instead of "joining the line" for up to 2 hours. For some they will see this as a time saver for others it is only the cost of ticket that is important, so it is important that EI get the transit process and the price right. I am NOT suggesting that people will abandon LHR/CDG/AMS in their droves to transit through DUB, but it is a useful facility to have, that will be seen as an advantage to some travelers.
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Aer Lingus have reduced flights between Dublin - Boston & Shannon - New York JFK & Boston for summer 2011.
DUB - Boston - 11 weekly summer 2010
DUB - Boston - 7 weekly summer 2011
SNN - Boston - 7 weekly summer 2010
SNN - Boston - 3 weekly summer 2011
SNN - New York JFK - 7 weekly summer 2010
SNN - New York JFK - 4 weekly summer 2011
DUB - Boston - 11 weekly summer 2010
DUB - Boston - 7 weekly summer 2011
SNN - Boston - 7 weekly summer 2010
SNN - Boston - 3 weekly summer 2011
SNN - New York JFK - 7 weekly summer 2010
SNN - New York JFK - 4 weekly summer 2011
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Originally Posted by st patrick
It will, hopefully, bring in a lot more connecting traffic for Aer Lingus. If you have to connect somewhere to get from europe to your final/intermediate destination in the States, you may as well use the 2/3 hours allowed for your connection constructively by clearing immigration and customs, freeing you at the far end to just walk out of the terminal instead of "joining the line" for up to 2 hours.
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The preclearance will make flying from Dublin to the US more attractive to people from Northern Ireland as coupled with the recent road improvements, it will be quicker to drive to Dublin and preclear than fly to England to connect then stand in line for up to 2 hours as I have done at the US point of entry. It will also erode the value of the Continental BFS-EWR service (maybe that is one of the reasons it is rumoured to be going down from daily this summer to 4 per week in the winter (5 per week last winter)
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DUB - Boston - 11 weekly summer 2010
DUB - Boston - 7 weekly summer 2011
SNN - Boston - 7 weekly summer 2010
SNN - Boston - 3 weekly summer 2011
SNN - New York JFK - 7 weekly summer 2010
SNN - New York JFK - 4 weekly summer 201
DUB - Boston - 7 weekly summer 2011
SNN - Boston - 7 weekly summer 2010
SNN - Boston - 3 weekly summer 2011
SNN - New York JFK - 7 weekly summer 2010
SNN - New York JFK - 4 weekly summer 201
Shannon to Boston and New York were not daily for Summer 2010. Shannon to Boston was 4/5 weekly and Shannon to New York JFK was 4 weekly.
One A330 aircraft will be based at Shannon for Summer 2011 and it will operate to New York M-W-F-S and to Boston -T-T-S-.
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Aer Lingus A320 near Birmingham on Sep 29th 2010, suspected fuel leak
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New chief financial officer
Aer Lingus says it has appointed Andrew Macfarlane as its chief financial officer with immediate effect. RTÉ Business: Macfarlane confirmed as Aer Lingus CFO
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Reported on RTE Radio 1 Morning Ireland, and TV3 Ireland AM that IMPACT cabin crew have served strike notice for work to rule starting this day week over rosters. IMPACT rep interviewed on MI claimed no affect on pax, but seemed unwilling or unable to say exactly what the action would entail other than "working to exisitng agreements following a period of flexibility" (or words to that effect). Usual claims of intransigent management, and vice versa.
Not sure what proportion of crew are IMPACT.
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Not sure what proportion of crew are IMPACT.
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I wonder if the management will carry out this threat and " rid the airline of this turbulent bunch" once and for all. Hopefully, CC are, at this very moment, reaching for their pens.
Airline warns staff over rosters - The Irish Times - Sat, Oct 09, 2010
Airline warns staff over rosters - The Irish Times - Sat, Oct 09, 2010
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I wonder if the management will carry out this threat and " rid the airline of this turbulent bunch" once and for all. Hopefully, CC are, at this very moment, reaching for their pens.
It's also interesting that several reports indicate that agreement was reached by HR staff in Aer Lingus and IMPACT but such agreement was subsequently overturned by senior EI Management.
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Aer Lingus CC deserve whatever comes to them. I've had nothing but bad experience with them, particularly on long-haul. They just come across as really up their own arse, and they obviously seem to think they're above everyone else given that every other part of the airline has had to endure cuts, but CC think they're different. And I've talked to people who've said the same thing. You'd think in the times we're in, they'd just be greatful to have a job at all.
Hopefully Mueller does a Ronald Reagan on it and just sacks the lot of them.
Hopefully Mueller does a Ronald Reagan on it and just sacks the lot of them.
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I used to have the same experience with the cabin crew on DUB-ORD. Quite regularly and I felt like I was being rude by asking them for anything/going up to the galley at the top of economy during flights. They have improved a lot on the more recent flights that I took with them however and I found them to be excellent.
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Hopefully Mueller does a Ronald Reagan on it and just sacks the lot of them.
The added instruction to CC by the union to refuse to work at all on the Washington-Madrid route may well be the straw that breaks the camel's back.
If EI advertised for CC jobs tomorrow there'd be thousands from the 450,000 men and women currently unemployed queing for their jobs - and happy to tell the union to
off in the process.I wonder what tomorrow will bring. If Mueller is to retain any credibility for future negotiations it's hard to see him reneging on his threat to take action.
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EI CC
Look its nonsense to say that EI CC want to "work their own" hours.
The fact is that EI and CC have an agreement to operate under certain conditions. All the CC are doing is to operate this agreement until a new one is agreed. Whats wrong with that?
All employees enjoy certain rights and agreed work practices, except you work for FR where you have none, and if any changes are contemplated, they must be agreed by both sides.
Lets all try to see the big picture here!
The fact is that EI and CC have an agreement to operate under certain conditions. All the CC are doing is to operate this agreement until a new one is agreed. Whats wrong with that?
All employees enjoy certain rights and agreed work practices, except you work for FR where you have none, and if any changes are contemplated, they must be agreed by both sides.
Lets all try to see the big picture here!
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Some of the comments on this thread are utterly disgusting and I do feel not like posting ever again on here.
Yes - there are some ''entrenched'' cabin crew amongst the EI ranks, yes there are some that don't do a fantastic job but the vast majority do a wonderful job in my experience - based on many years of flying with EI.
Aer Lingus Cabin crew are always targeted with vitriol - no matter what, whether it be internally in the company or amongst the general public.
If people understood the real issues at play here they wouldn't be so quick to comment so adversely.
Ask yourself:
Would you be prepared to work a 12 hour day without a proper meal break? Would you be prepared to work six days of rostered work at 4AM starts, without any proper meal breaks each day, have one day off and then do a Transatlantic run?
It's fantastic to be able to sit back and post regarding a situation - but how well would you perform under these conditions?
If this were the public service for example - the country would grind to a halt if they had to work under those conditions.
Hoping for bad outcomes for staff members is really quite a low.
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Yes - there are some ''entrenched'' cabin crew amongst the EI ranks, yes there are some that don't do a fantastic job but the vast majority do a wonderful job in my experience - based on many years of flying with EI.
Aer Lingus Cabin crew are always targeted with vitriol - no matter what, whether it be internally in the company or amongst the general public.
If people understood the real issues at play here they wouldn't be so quick to comment so adversely.
Ask yourself:
Would you be prepared to work a 12 hour day without a proper meal break? Would you be prepared to work six days of rostered work at 4AM starts, without any proper meal breaks each day, have one day off and then do a Transatlantic run?
It's fantastic to be able to sit back and post regarding a situation - but how well would you perform under these conditions?
If this were the public service for example - the country would grind to a halt if they had to work under those conditions.
Hoping for bad outcomes for staff members is really quite a low.
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As someone else stated in this thread, there are around 450,000 people (myself included) currently on the live register who wold kill for a job - even under the (possibly exaggerated) conditions you suggest. And yes, I have worked 12 hour days with limited meal breaks etc in the past.
In my experience of EI (short-haul), they are competant, but not outstanding - but on the runs I had, they had no real need to be as I seldom interact with them, preferring to keep my own counsel.
I see a worrying parallel with BA developing, where (some) CC seem to think themselves outside the realities of the present day. The reality is that if push comes to shove, Mueller will find many possible replacement staff on the job market if he needs to.
Ireland is in severe trouble, and EI can no longer get a government bail out in the face of falling yields. In common with BA etc, they are no longer a flag carrier, and they are no longer a major player. In fact, I foresee the governement being so desperate for cash that their 25% shareholding will soon be for sale - probably at a discount if recent FF performance is anything to go by. Who will buy? I doubt FR would be interested now, so institutional investors, who will want to see a short term return. Then the knives will really come out!
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As someone else stated in this thread, there are around 450,000 people (myself included) currently on the live register who wold kill for a job - even under the (possibly exaggerated) conditions you suggest. And yes, I have worked 12 hour days with limited meal breaks etc in the past.
In my experience of EI (short-haul), they are competant, but not outstanding - but on the runs I had, they had no real need to be as I seldom interact with them, preferring to keep my own counsel.
I see a worrying parallel with BA developing, where (some) CC seem to think themselves outside the realities of the present day. The reality is that if push comes to shove, Mueller will find many possible replacement staff on the job market if he needs to.
Ireland is in severe trouble, and EI can no longer get a government bail out in the face of falling yields. In common with BA etc, they are no longer a flag carrier, and they are no longer a major player. In fact, I foresee the governement being so desperate for cash that their 25% shareholding will soon be for sale - probably at a discount if recent FF performance is anything to go by. Who will buy? I doubt FR would be interested now, so institutional investors, who will want to see a short term return. Then the knives will really come out!
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Midland Deltic,
Firstly, I'm very sorry to hear that you are in that situation and certainly hope that you find something very soon.
The problem is though - the majority of EI Cabin crew are not living outside of reality. The depth of cuts which they have borne in the past three years now have been severe - compounded salary reductions, greatly increased working hours, reduced or non existent meal breaks etc. The cuts that they have borne have also been disproportionate to the cuts across the remainder of the group.
I would like to point out to you that EI yields are on a continuous upward trajectory, with the latest guidance from the company today indicating that operating profits, before exceptional items, will be at least €20 million for 2010 - that is an enormous turnaround from 2009. The EI share price has also risen by more than 100% over the past 16 months. The company has gross cash in excess of €1 billion and Net, unrestricted cash reserves in excess of €400 million.
Yes, cabin crew have to accept pain - but they have already done so, time and time again.
The fact that Aer Lingus pilots have also balloted for industrial action speaks volumes about the airline's HR function.
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Firstly, I'm very sorry to hear that you are in that situation and certainly hope that you find something very soon.
The problem is though - the majority of EI Cabin crew are not living outside of reality. The depth of cuts which they have borne in the past three years now have been severe - compounded salary reductions, greatly increased working hours, reduced or non existent meal breaks etc. The cuts that they have borne have also been disproportionate to the cuts across the remainder of the group.
I would like to point out to you that EI yields are on a continuous upward trajectory, with the latest guidance from the company today indicating that operating profits, before exceptional items, will be at least €20 million for 2010 - that is an enormous turnaround from 2009. The EI share price has also risen by more than 100% over the past 16 months. The company has gross cash in excess of €1 billion and Net, unrestricted cash reserves in excess of €400 million.
Yes, cabin crew have to accept pain - but they have already done so, time and time again.
The fact that Aer Lingus pilots have also balloted for industrial action speaks volumes about the airline's HR function.
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EI Premier I've read your posts, both on here and on airliners.net, and look if you and all your buddies in the Aer Lingus Fan Club want to think Aer Lingus CC are the best in the world, off with ya, but yer livin with the fairies. The reality is they're some of the worst at what they do, particularly on long-haul. Like MidlandDeltic points out, there are half a million people in this country who would kill to do what they do, if for no other reason than to just earn a living.
In the times we're in when so many people are out of work and there are savage budget cuts on the way for the next 4 years, its amazing that these people even have the nerve to take industrial action just because they were told to work the hours they're supposed to and because they didn't get an official mealbreak. Come off it like...
In the times we're in when so many people are out of work and there are savage budget cuts on the way for the next 4 years, its amazing that these people even have the nerve to take industrial action just because they were told to work the hours they're supposed to and because they didn't get an official mealbreak. Come off it like...