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Old 13th Apr 2011, 09:46
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they are on the bmibaby website booking engine. 2012 starts from what i can see
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Old 13th Apr 2011, 09:53
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It looks like most of these flights will operate using another based aircraft unit then rather than an actual BHD overnight based aircraft like the current BHD-STN a/c (though CWL crew)... Unless they are having a base at STN too for an early morning rotation to BHD as for example on some days the AMS service departs at 08:40, most likely after a turnaround of the aircraft arriving from another UK airport.
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Old 13th Apr 2011, 09:56
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MAN base closing, so presumably that's where the a/c is coming from.

http://www.pprune.org/airlines-airpo...ml#post6367446
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Old 13th Apr 2011, 10:34
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Never mind the runway extention, they will need to extend the ramp to fit all these aircraft in.

However I did notice that the bucket and spade routes are not due to start until summer 2012, perhaps Flybe are planning a fleet reduction at Belfast before then?

There is space to park a few more aircraft on the GA apron, however the airport dont yet have enough equipment to bus a few 737/Dash8/Emb load of PAX there on a regular basis.
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Old 13th Apr 2011, 10:43
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From the BHD press release:

"These are exciting times for Belfast City Airport and the wider tourism and local economy, especially ahead of the Titanic celebrations in 2012.”
Perfect way to celebrate another Belfast venture that sank...
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Perfect way to celebrate another Belfast venture that sank...
Oh dear!!!
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Old 13th Apr 2011, 11:01
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bmi baby is perfect for Belfast as far as companies go as hey are always rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic....
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Old 13th Apr 2011, 11:05
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With the MAN base closing does that mean WW are pulling out of there all together? I have flights booked from BHD-MAN in June, will they go ahead?
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Old 13th Apr 2011, 11:09
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It seems a certainty that the ramp will have to be extended. With 3 Baby 737/300 aircraft to night stop along with the BMI Airbus, 2 Flybe Emb, 7 Dash, a Let 410 and maybe private stuff there will be no room at the inn. Guessing the apron used at the old terminal will be strong enough if its tarted up a bit and the fence moved.
Coaching to remote stands is very common at most airports so I dont really see an issue, although I understand that there is only one coach in operation at the moment.
I am keen to hear how this news will affect staffing. Will the airport require more ATC controllers? Ops? Coach drivers? Security? Customs? HMI? Obviously the handlers and Baby themselves will need to up the ante.
I guess also that there will have to be some sort of international arrivals route to keep punters separated for border checks.

Interesting.
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Old 13th Apr 2011, 11:11
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With the MAN base closing does that mean WW are pulling out of there all together? I have flights booked from BHD-MAN in June, will they go ahead?
Yes no changes to the MAN base flights untill the end of October. Then the BHD-MAN flight goes to a single daily service... I can't see this lasting longer either!
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Old 13th Apr 2011, 11:28
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I wish WW all the best at BHD but all the new routes are in direct competition with EZY who are a lot cheaper and have a bigger brand/reputation in NI. Would it not have been better for them to try some new destinations that aren't served from here yet along with say AGP and AMS?
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Old 13th Apr 2011, 11:30
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Is bmibaby shutting up shop at MAN to open up shop at BHD ?!
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Old 13th Apr 2011, 11:32
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Is bmibaby shutting up shop at MAN to open up shop at BHD ?!
WW are closing their MAN and CWL bases from October to expand at BHD, EMA and BHX.
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Old 13th Apr 2011, 11:50
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Would it not have been better for them to try some new destinations that aren't served from here yet along with say AGP and AMS?
Exactly!! Wish WW and BHD all the best, if this turns out profitable and sustainable for them, happy days. But for the average passenger in Northern Ireland and around Belfast, it really makes absolutely no difference (or very little) what so ever.

Same old destinations, served by the same-style loco's, from whatever Belfast airport. Whoopie doo...
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Old 13th Apr 2011, 12:17
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Reading this thread, along with the BFS thread, one gains the distinct impression that City's stock is on the increase with the possible converse at International?

May be, just may be, Bmi Baby have made one of their better moves and will cash in on the momentum recently gained at City. Micky O'Leary may have made the wrong move and may be unwanted when the runway is extended!

As noted earlier, BHD will need to think carefully about parking, both aeroplanes and cars. The management will need to make the very best use of every square inch of their limited site or start building upwards!
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Old 13th Apr 2011, 12:32
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Good news for BHD and those who work there, should add a good couple of jobs for all departments. Space will be an issue during summer, so i'd expect them to start doing some work on the apron and terminal.. if they dont, things could get slightly crowded, especially if theres delays or tech aircraft..

Its a shame to not see any new routes currently not on offer from N.I (as carmanorlad and BFS101 has said), could be quite difficult to convince passengers who have used EZY, EI, LS and TCX for years to try them, should be interesting to see how this goes, although a bit of a wait.
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Old 13th Apr 2011, 12:35
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Nothing really earth moving in this announcement from Baby, seems very unimaginative to me.

It will be very interesting to see how they intend to compete with Easyjet/Aer Lingus who are already well established on the routes and operate much newer, more fuel effecient Airbus fleets.

Also wonder if Baby will start to "acquire" some A319's to operate these new routes and try to merge the crewing t&c's so they can operate for Mainline and Baby at bases like BHD. Majority of the 2012 bucket and spade stuff is at weekends so maybe they will use Mainline tin to operate on behalf of Baby at weekends instead of sending them out on charter runs for tour operators.

Good luck to Baby with their new routes.
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Old 13th Apr 2011, 12:40
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And once again we have the same customers being offered the same routes from airports twelve miles apart. Short term gain for the travelling punter and a peek into the nonsense that was spouted by RYR .

I feel that EZY will see off the challenge to AMS and that the costa routes will be dropped quietly after a fairly short time.

This is short sighted short termism and will only disadvantage NI as a region overall.
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Old 13th Apr 2011, 12:50
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I feel that EZY will see off the challenge to AMS and that the costa routes will be dropped quietly after a fairly short time.

This is short sighted short termism and will only disadvantage NI as a region overall.
Unfortunately, I haveto agree with you on this one, especially with bmibabys record on giving new routes a chance!

In all fairness other than CWL as an exception, they have very little other place to go in the UK where they don't already have huge competitors etc etc, they have really lost out at MAN big time IMO. Is this their own fault or the fault of LH not giving them the chance for more a/c, even their own 733s????! But anyway good luck to them at BHD.
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