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Old 18th Jun 2008, 10:30
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He was asked about the transatlantic proposal, to which he responded as follows (roughly translated from German*):

"In economy you will get across the pond for 10 EUR." For business class, he announced a very special frill: "In business, there will be "beds and b***jobs" for passengers." The press officer to his left almost choked as she was just sipping on a glass of water. These flights incl. sex would cost between 4.000 and 5.000 EUR. While those present at the press conference listened with bated breath, O'Leary thinks about a suitable translation for the English term that describes oral sex. "Unbelievable, don't you guys have a German word for b***job?", he asks with a big grin."

LOL.

http://www.derwesten.de/nachrichten/...008/6/18/news-56224368/detail.html

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Old 18th Jun 2008, 11:28
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I think it was a joke to differentiate between business and economy, about the fact that in business you'll get everything included, but you'll have to pay for everything in economy. I highly doubt we'd see that service on a plane, even if this is Michael O'Leary!!
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Old 18th Jun 2008, 12:54
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Ryanair Excess Baggage Hike

ryanair have raised the excess baggage charge from £7.50 per kilo to £12.00 per kilo.that's an increase of 60%.perhaps this enables the airline to continue without imposing fuel surcharges.the days of a cheap return to europe seem to be over,the very market that enabled ryanair to grow and flourish.
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Old 18th Jun 2008, 14:02
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days of a cheap return to europe seem to be over
Why? Can you not pack a bag for a week of holidays, or a long weekend without exceeding 15kg? Leave that copy of War & Peace at home and you'll be fine...
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Old 18th Jun 2008, 14:31
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FR's charges are now far above industry average but then again their fares are lower. FR want passengers to travel with hand luggage only and check in online, it will cut down handling costs and reduce the time spent on the ground. However, obviously not even MOL believes the day will ever arrive where 100% of passengers will do this, so in the mean time they will make a nice amount of money from it.

It is working though, the amount of online check-in pax has climbed so much that some routes are seeing way over 50% of pax avoiding check-in.

I think it's fair to say to Ryanair that fuel costs have dramatically increased, and so therefore those 15KGs obviously cost more to transport now than say this time last year, therefore you need to pay for it.

I don't think the charges can really go much higher though before it begins to have a negative impact on demand. Time will tell.
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Old 18th Jun 2008, 14:36
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I booked 5 FR flights recently:

EMA-BHD: £10.99 all-in.
BRS-DUB-BRS: £22.20 all-in.
STN-SNN-STN: £2.42 all-in.

I only ever have hand luggage; I always check-in online; I always pay by debit card; etc.

Easy.

I can see why some people - primarily families - have to check in luggage. Fair enough. But they could still take less - perhaps 2 or 3 checked bags rather than 4 for a family of 4 - so as to spend less. Exactly as my colleague does.
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Old 18th Jun 2008, 15:55
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Cheap flights are over?

Bermuda Triangle, you just don't get it do you? If you book reasonably well in advance, check-in on line, carry a bag of less than 15kg and pay by debit card, you can still fly from one end of Europe to the other and back again for £50 or less. Find me any other airline that comes even close, other than easyJet and then you can write garbage like that.

BAs fuel surcharge is more than that!
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Old 18th Jun 2008, 16:07
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J N P,

You must be a tax evading magician. Th taxes for STN SNN STN are £9.99 and £15.31. Thats £25.30 in tax even if you get a "free fare". Please tell how you got it for "2.42 all in.
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Old 18th Jun 2008, 16:46
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I have also just booked a Ryanair flight to Belfast City from EMA...

£0.02p it cost me, no tax return flight... And i check in online which is cheaper
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Old 18th Jun 2008, 16:48
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since when has ryanair given a damn about taxes! they'll pay them for you, and recover the costs from else where.

European low cost air travel is changing, the seat is merely becoming a factor of a much wider product. See the seat if you like as the advertising space inbetween your favourite programme, you become the active audience that has to listen and watch the SELL SELL SELL. From the moment you book right up until you land with Ryanair you are in this medium of selling. Ie the bags you "add-on", the airport check-in, the travel insurance, hotels, hostels, villas, parking, the excess baggage, the priority boarding, the drinks, snacks, scratch cards, tax free goods, the adds you stare at for 2 hours on the lockers or seat backs, the jingles and upselling songs you have to bare on board, right up to the car hire you can get discount on at the arrival airport the transfers etc etc etc.

Its an exciting time for those who are into their business, but a sad one for those who desperatly want to hold onto the traditional aspect of flying.

They might not be everyones cup of tea, but they are certainly doing something right!
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Old 18th Jun 2008, 18:13
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You must be a tax evading magician.
Or I just visit Ryanair.com, see the have in the middle of their frontpage "2 MILLION FREE SEATS - NO TAXES, NO FEES, NO CHARGES" and book.

They've done this around a dozen times over the past couple of years. One difference that has materalised in the past few occasions is that you have to pay to use a credit/debit card, whereas previously with the deal it was zero no matter the type of card. Hence before it would have been 2p and that's all for STN-SNN-STN, whereas now it is 2p plus £2.40 debit card fees (£1.20/sector; credit cards more). Of course, I'm not for a minute complaining.
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Old 18th Jun 2008, 18:22
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New routes

  • Restarted: Shannon (SNN) to Lodz
  • New: Nottinghamto Faro
  • New: Nottingham to Puerto del Rosario, Fuerteventura
  • New: Nottingham to Prague
  • New: Liverpool to Faro
  • New: Liverpool to Gdansk
  • New: Liverpool to Knock
  • New: Liverpool to Szczecin
  • New: Shannon to Gdansk
  • New: Shannon to Katowice

http://www.theairdb.com
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Old 18th Jun 2008, 19:26
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frfly....it really is quite simple to pack 10kg into a cabin bag and check in on-line and avoid all those Q's and charges. If you dont like the sell sell sell, take an mp3 and a book and listen to your favourite music while you read a good yarn.

Ryanair pax are wise to MOL and his stand and deliver money grabbing, which is why he is now panicked into raising his excess charges per kg even higher. Its quite simply another way to recover the higher cost of his unhedged fuel, but being MOL he can't fess up and call it as such without losing face.

I personally take great delight in flying on Ryanair and knowing that he has lost money on my seat purchase, because thats all it is..a seat to sit on for 2 hours.
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Old 18th Jun 2008, 20:44
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I have heard that Ryanair are to announce East Midlands - Perpignan
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Old 18th Jun 2008, 20:58
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EMA - BHX could be a winner first thing in the morning and then peak time in the evening to avoid the M42!!
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Old 18th Jun 2008, 23:35
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Interesting Fuertaventura/Prague and Faro all from EMA. However can't see Perpignan as we already fly to Carcassone out of EMA and BHX are doing Perpignan themselves unless its all to do with the recent strike by staff at Carcassone to "punish" them. Who knows but I'm glad to see Faro added.


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Old 19th Jun 2008, 10:54
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EMA

Three new routes from EMA now bookable.

FAO from 28/10 - Tue/Thur/Sat
FUE from 28/10 - Tue/Thur/Sat
PRG from 26/10 - Sun/Tue/Thur/Sat
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Old 19th Jun 2008, 11:06
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Video of German press call:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfIY24BErBE
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Old 19th Jun 2008, 11:14
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When did Ryanair introduce the electronic stairs on their aircraft? Such a simple thing but very effective. savers having to wait for the groundforce to find some mobile steps from somewhere!

Also, as a sidenote how long a delay does there have to be before Ryanair will issue vouchers or compo?

Help up last night on the 21:45 STN - Prestwick did not leave till 23:30 not too major but just interested.

thanks
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Old 19th Jun 2008, 12:12
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how long a delay does there have to be before Ryanair will issue vouchers or compo?
2 hours for a short haul flight
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