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Clearly, has far too much time on his hands!
Perhaps he should spend more time analysing ryrs increasing "incidents"
instead of hypothetical airline financial scenarios?
Latest: 200kts at three miles at DUB another a/c lined up for t/o
Instructed to 'Go around' response......Cleared to land!!!!! AND continued till further instructed to G/A again.
Similar to previous behaviour in Sweden???
Reported by Atc NOT the airline.........sound familiar??
200kts at three miles (900 feet) is simply not acceptable in a
proper " passenger airline"
Perhaps he should spend more time analysing ryrs increasing "incidents"
instead of hypothetical airline financial scenarios?
Latest: 200kts at three miles at DUB another a/c lined up for t/o
Instructed to 'Go around' response......Cleared to land!!!!! AND continued till further instructed to G/A again.
Similar to previous behaviour in Sweden???
Reported by Atc NOT the airline.........sound familiar??
200kts at three miles (900 feet) is simply not acceptable in a
proper " passenger airline"
As a comparison those figures you just gave seem impressive but are skewed.
As posted their longest route is less than the longest FR route.
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RYR good SOP!
If anyone believes that any incident will go undetected in RYR they are
Everything is recorded via the OFDM and the pilots who have done a stunt will have to go to Dublin for Tea and Biscuits. This is a good thing and maybe that is why RYR has so high flight safety records. Believe me I have heard horror stories from other companis flying 737-800. If you are going to tell stories about RYR be correct and do not come up whith this h....sh...
I know how it works in RYR and I have been working in other companies before. If this story is true we will soon have a story on PPRUNE, "pilots wrongfully sacked at RYR". But then we will all know it was not wrongfully, or......
RYR is but far the
best/Teddy
Everything is recorded via the OFDM and the pilots who have done a stunt will have to go to Dublin for Tea and Biscuits. This is a good thing and maybe that is why RYR has so high flight safety records. Believe me I have heard horror stories from other companis flying 737-800. If you are going to tell stories about RYR be correct and do not come up whith this h....sh...
I know how it works in RYR and I have been working in other companies before. If this story is true we will soon have a story on PPRUNE, "pilots wrongfully sacked at RYR". But then we will all know it was not wrongfully, or......
RYR is but far the best/Teddy
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Busiest / most profitable routes
According to their 2009 Financial Statement the top 10 busiest routes are:-
DUB to STN
DUB to LGW
STN to CIA
DUB to MAN
BGY to CIA
STN to BGY
PIK to STN
DUB to BHX
DUB to LTN
DUB to COR
However the report doesn't specify if these are in ranked order nor does it quote passenger numbers. Though it does state that these accounted for 9% of their total passenger numbers.
As for most profitable, I doubt they would divulge that information as it would be commercially sensitive!
DUB to STN
DUB to LGW
STN to CIA
DUB to MAN
BGY to CIA
STN to BGY
PIK to STN
DUB to BHX
DUB to LTN
DUB to COR
However the report doesn't specify if these are in ranked order nor does it quote passenger numbers. Though it does state that these accounted for 9% of their total passenger numbers.
As for most profitable, I doubt they would divulge that information as it would be commercially sensitive!
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The website will have a portuguese version in October. FR plans to transport 5M passengers from and to Porto in 2012, which is more than the total passengers transported actually.
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Yes. More than the 4,5M passengers who use the airport per year, actually. If we count all the passengers transported by all the companies from and to Porto per year, the sum is 4,5M. In 3 years, Ryanair plans to transport 5M by itself.
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c800 million live in Europe. What is the size of this market for flying? EG Ireland 4-6 million but DUB alone handles c22-24 million pa pax. When you think of it in Europe as a whole the market must be huge with plenty of opportunities for many low cost carriers.
Ryanair don't need to look at transatlantic but if Ryanair were ever to go down that route then they would have to go back to basics and consider the Southwest model of customer service, no charge for bags, check in etc. The current Ryanair model here in Europe would have a complete lack of cultural compatability with the US and would appear to be a natural bar to entering that market. Then again McDonalds only took 19 years to teach us how to eat without using a knife and fork!
Ryanair don't need to look at transatlantic but if Ryanair were ever to go down that route then they would have to go back to basics and consider the Southwest model of customer service, no charge for bags, check in etc. The current Ryanair model here in Europe would have a complete lack of cultural compatability with the US and would appear to be a natural bar to entering that market. Then again McDonalds only took 19 years to teach us how to eat without using a knife and fork!
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Ryanair on BBC TV Panorama soon ...
I see that the BBC TV programme Panorama are planning a programme about Ryanair in October BBC Panorama wants to hear your comments
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Sober Lark, you say
"c800 million live in Europe. What is the size of this market for flying? EG Ireland 4-6 million but DUB alone handles c22-24 million pa pax."
The EU has ca 500 million people, and Russia (120 million) will probably never join an open skies treaty and let foreign companies invade their flight markets, while in the East of the EU, Wizzair is building a defensive front against Ryanair. Ireland is not at all typical, as it's island, also doesn't have a fast train to mainland Europe. You don't get such ratios in France or Germany (only in 'effective islands' like Berlin). Also don't forget that there are competitors in Europe who are very much aware of Ryanair, and will fight them, they are not standing by. It's quite a sign that Ryanair's largest base in mainland Europe, Frankfurt-Hahn, had little expansion and quite some route cancellations in the past year, it's stuck at about 3.5 million passengers. People with kids are already fed up and choose to fly from Frankfurt-proper or Cologne. I can't see them expanding much anymore in Germany, blackmailing Hahn was all over the press and a clear warning to the other airports. A ruthless short-term victory which might cost them dearly in the long run. So probably yes, they might have to go transatlantic once their passenger numbers in Europe stagnate. The model doesn't work without growth.
"c800 million live in Europe. What is the size of this market for flying? EG Ireland 4-6 million but DUB alone handles c22-24 million pa pax."
The EU has ca 500 million people, and Russia (120 million) will probably never join an open skies treaty and let foreign companies invade their flight markets, while in the East of the EU, Wizzair is building a defensive front against Ryanair. Ireland is not at all typical, as it's island, also doesn't have a fast train to mainland Europe. You don't get such ratios in France or Germany (only in 'effective islands' like Berlin). Also don't forget that there are competitors in Europe who are very much aware of Ryanair, and will fight them, they are not standing by. It's quite a sign that Ryanair's largest base in mainland Europe, Frankfurt-Hahn, had little expansion and quite some route cancellations in the past year, it's stuck at about 3.5 million passengers. People with kids are already fed up and choose to fly from Frankfurt-proper or Cologne. I can't see them expanding much anymore in Germany, blackmailing Hahn was all over the press and a clear warning to the other airports. A ruthless short-term victory which might cost them dearly in the long run. So probably yes, they might have to go transatlantic once their passenger numbers in Europe stagnate. The model doesn't work without growth.
while in the East of the EU, Wizzair is building a defensive front against Ryanair
Overlay their routes and you will see the avoid competing with each other.
2 reasons
1.) each is afraid of the other
2.) they have unspoken agreement to leave each others routes alone and complement rather than compete.
1.) is a no way
2.) more likely
Wizz unlike Sky Europe never set out with viewpoint that it could compete with Ryanair head on. They never sought a fight that they would lose because someone else has deeper pockets.
Wizzair / Ryanair tie up has been mooted but no chance at this moment in time.
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Thanks JP. Racedo from darkest Surrey "they have unspoken agreement to leave each others routes alone and complement rather than compete" Is this not an anticompetitive practice? Where do EI complement FR?
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Its hard to know really what goes through the mind of your average Ryanair passenger, but I would imagine most of them would be quite happy buying a ticket for a flight that was advertised for €49.99 to some little airstrip near some former industrial town or wherever, actually cost them €49.99 as opposed to a flight that was advertised for 99c but ended up costing them €49.99.....
There'd be no complaints about misleading advertising or hidden charges and it wouldn't even cost Ryanair any extra.......
There'd be no complaints about misleading advertising or hidden charges and it wouldn't even cost Ryanair any extra.......
Is this not an anticompetitive practice? Where do EI complement FR?
Anti competitive would be difficult to prove and can't force an airline to operate a particular route, similar in you can't force National Express / Greenline or Stagecoach to operate similar routes.
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racedo so ends the lesson in geography and thanks JP for starting us off!
I thought an unspoken agreement was an anticompetitive practice because it prevents or reduces competition in a market?
"difficult to prove"
yes, but becomes easier when the parties involved have significant market power.
As a side DUB-MRS both EI and FR operated but on different days and both ceased service around the same time. This niceness can be most inconvenient.
Based, fares are cheap but when you have people saying they got a flight for 99 cent then you have to take your hat off to those marketing guys that made your man believe he got it for 99 cent notwithstanding he still got it for a pittance at €49.99. However, next time when you want to charge the same chap €1.05 he'll rant and rave thinking he's being ripped off!
I thought an unspoken agreement was an anticompetitive practice because it prevents or reduces competition in a market?
"difficult to prove"
yes, but becomes easier when the parties involved have significant market power.
As a side DUB-MRS both EI and FR operated but on different days and both ceased service around the same time. This niceness can be most inconvenient.
Based, fares are cheap but when you have people saying they got a flight for 99 cent then you have to take your hat off to those marketing guys that made your man believe he got it for 99 cent notwithstanding he still got it for a pittance at €49.99. However, next time when you want to charge the same chap €1.05 he'll rant and rave thinking he's being ripped off!
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Bari and Brindisi bases coming soon?
If rumours from Italy are to be believed, Ryanair will announce two bases in Puglia next week: Bari and Brindisi. 3 aircraft will be based in total, with 15 new routes starting in January.
Guidaviaggi.it: Ryanair farà base anche in Puglia
Guidaviaggi.it: Ryanair farà base anche in Puglia
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annalist- do you think that Ryanair would have any interest in a base at Bratislava now that SkyEurope is gone out of business, quite a few gaps now and cost there should be competitive plus Bratislava being a capital city etc?
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