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because you never recieved compliments like that during your time at the flying harp
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I dont know where all this Ryanair "rude crew" gossip started.
I have had more problems with BA,AA and CO crew, most of them crusing
the isles like they own the Airline and looking down at you like your not good enough to be on one of their old airframes.
All Airlines have some staff who dont give good service.
I travel 6x a year Long haul and about 15x a year short haul
8 flights at least with Ryanair and I have only ever been delayed once
for 2hrs due to a A/C change to enable another flight to stay operational
they have never lost my bag or cancled a flight nor have they ever gone on strike.
I have not once thought I will never travel Ryanair but I have stopped using BA after 2x summer walkouts, 3x delayed baggage one never found, two which arrived one week late to my destination but I had already done my return trip and the rudest cabin crew I have ever met.
I do think its about time people stop putting Ryanair down as they are very good at what they do and what they do must be working as I dont see anyother Airline in the WORLD starting so many new routes, Opening so many base's or buying so many NEW A/C in this Global turndown. Ryanair must operate the youngest fleet in the world, Now that cant be so bad can it.
I have had more problems with BA,AA and CO crew, most of them crusing
the isles like they own the Airline and looking down at you like your not good enough to be on one of their old airframes.
All Airlines have some staff who dont give good service.
I travel 6x a year Long haul and about 15x a year short haul
8 flights at least with Ryanair and I have only ever been delayed once
for 2hrs due to a A/C change to enable another flight to stay operational
they have never lost my bag or cancled a flight nor have they ever gone on strike.
I have not once thought I will never travel Ryanair but I have stopped using BA after 2x summer walkouts, 3x delayed baggage one never found, two which arrived one week late to my destination but I had already done my return trip and the rudest cabin crew I have ever met.
I do think its about time people stop putting Ryanair down as they are very good at what they do and what they do must be working as I dont see anyother Airline in the WORLD starting so many new routes, Opening so many base's or buying so many NEW A/C in this Global turndown. Ryanair must operate the youngest fleet in the world, Now that cant be so bad can it.
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Winter 2009/10
MV
Cheers for the Bristol information, BHX has lost a similar amount
but NYO, TRF, PMI, PGF, OPO & BLG were all year round and HHN
and REU were released for booking.
Also now with the start of the winter schedule it is very late
to add new routes. Maybe some routes will get increased
frequency but overall it is not looking like a good time for UK
bases at the moment.
Pete
Cheers for the Bristol information, BHX has lost a similar amount
but NYO, TRF, PMI, PGF, OPO & BLG were all year round and HHN
and REU were released for booking.
Also now with the start of the winter schedule it is very late
to add new routes. Maybe some routes will get increased
frequency but overall it is not looking like a good time for UK
bases at the moment.
Pete
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ryanair must be run with blokes with dummies and nappies, to drop all these routes, manchester dropped whats that about, lose loads of custom there and it was suppose to be a money earner for ryanair, im sure someone from the shed with a road ( liverpool) will comment!!!
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I dont see anyother Airline in the WORLD starting so many new routes
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Fight cuts
To be honnest on the subject of RYR not maintaining routes, a few years ago any airline CEO would have been put into a straight jacket for even considering some of the routes from x to y that nobody had evr heard off.
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I don't see any other airline in the world starting as many routes and then stopping them again within a year or so of starting, just ask the punters at BHX, BRS and EMA who have all lost many FR flights this winter
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Don't all airlines reduce fights they operate when demand isn't there ? Thats the reality of the industry and always has been
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Re BHX and others
There is a way to restrict the blatent enthusiasm of some airline marketing dept's, especially re BHX, and that is to restrict their anouncements regarding future route and aircraft basing plans to the point when legally enforcable contracts have been signed. In this way the possibility of "over enthusiasm" is reduced.
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FR @ BHX
racedo
You are quite correct, ten mentioned but no time-frame in this
press release from their website (useless really): -
quote
"This will be followed by a further 8 Boeing 737-800 aircraft ($560m investment) which will deliver 5 million passengers annually, a visitor spend of £400m p.a. and sustain 5,000 jobs in the West Midlands."
End of quote
As for the BHX routes, to say that there is no demand is right in some
cases such as BLG, HHN, TRF, PGF REU plus the regular suspensions of PIS, MRS, TRS & TPS.
There was reasonable demand for OPO, PMI & NYO but what there
wasn't, was the willingness to pay a sustainable fare for the flights
and hence I suppose the reason why these went.
If I had to be critical it is more to do with why these routes were
chosen in the first place compared to established markets such as
Madrid & Rome (which had just ended) and other non-EMA FR routes
such as TSF and RAK.
Pete
You are quite correct, ten mentioned but no time-frame in this
press release from their website (useless really): -
quote
"This will be followed by a further 8 Boeing 737-800 aircraft ($560m investment) which will deliver 5 million passengers annually, a visitor spend of £400m p.a. and sustain 5,000 jobs in the West Midlands."
End of quote
As for the BHX routes, to say that there is no demand is right in some
cases such as BLG, HHN, TRF, PGF REU plus the regular suspensions of PIS, MRS, TRS & TPS.
There was reasonable demand for OPO, PMI & NYO but what there
wasn't, was the willingness to pay a sustainable fare for the flights
and hence I suppose the reason why these went.
If I had to be critical it is more to do with why these routes were
chosen in the first place compared to established markets such as
Madrid & Rome (which had just ended) and other non-EMA FR routes
such as TSF and RAK.
Pete
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I can see the attraction of Bydgoszcz, but where the f*** is Birmingham...?
Alabama
Well on here the cheerleaders call it "vision"......
Perhaps short sighted or lack of vision. Thought a cheerleader was something to do with dancing, perhaps not.
cc
Alabama
Well on here the cheerleaders call it "vision"......
Perhaps short sighted or lack of vision. Thought a cheerleader was something to do with dancing, perhaps not.
cc
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Ryanair Holdings Announces 2 New Bases At Bari, Brindisi
LONDON (Dow Jones)--Ryanair Holdings PLC (RYAAY), the low-cost airline, Tuesday announced two new Italian bases at Bari and Brindisi, bringing its total European bases to 36.
MAIN FACTS:
-From January 2010, Ryanair will base two aircraft at Bari and open nine new routes (16 in total) while in February it will base one aircraft at Brindisi and open four new routes (nine in total).
-New routes from Bari to Brussels (Charleroi), Cagliari, Dusseldorf (Weeze), Genoa, Karlsruhe - Baden Baden, Paris (Beauvais), Trapani, Treviso and Valencia, start Jan. 14, 2010.
-Four new routes from Brindisi to Barcelona (Girona), Eindhoven, Trapani and Treviso will begin from Feb. 4, 2010.
MAIN FACTS:
-From January 2010, Ryanair will base two aircraft at Bari and open nine new routes (16 in total) while in February it will base one aircraft at Brindisi and open four new routes (nine in total).
-New routes from Bari to Brussels (Charleroi), Cagliari, Dusseldorf (Weeze), Genoa, Karlsruhe - Baden Baden, Paris (Beauvais), Trapani, Treviso and Valencia, start Jan. 14, 2010.
-Four new routes from Brindisi to Barcelona (Girona), Eindhoven, Trapani and Treviso will begin from Feb. 4, 2010.
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Based purely on a back-of-the-envelope calculation, using approx number of hours to fly distances and looking at just the new routes announced from Bari and Brindisi, this leaves on average the Bari aircraft each in the air for about 8 hours per day, while the Brindisi aircraft should be in the air for about 5 hours per day - rather low utilisation rates for short-haul aircraft operated by a LCC
I'm sure someone else out there can do a better job with flight schedules, but it suggests that either further routes / increased frequencies on existing routes will be announced from Bari and Brindisi, or alternatively these aircraft are being deployed in a way to free up aircraft based elsewhere in Europe.
I'm sure someone else out there can do a better job with flight schedules, but it suggests that either further routes / increased frequencies on existing routes will be announced from Bari and Brindisi, or alternatively these aircraft are being deployed in a way to free up aircraft based elsewhere in Europe.
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Ryanair aircraft utilisation is not always simple as they increasingly operate 'W' pattern flights from their bases. There were for instance several predictions in this forum that the Prestwick base would go down from 5 based aircraft to only 4 or even 3 this winter. While there are considerable cutbacks, 5 aircraft are still required (6 on a Wednesday!) with aircraft operating more 'W' patterns. Beauvais, Torp and Bergamo flights are operated in this way with the aircraft starting from Prestwick and operating 4 sectors before returning to base. It may be that some of the flights from the newly announced bases at Bari & Brindisi are also to be operated in this way.