Ryanair - 6
If the cap fits then it must be the dunces.....
Ware your idiocy with pride.
Ware your idiocy with pride.
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Ryanair expands.
From todays Daily Mail quote--Ryanair chief Michael O Leary said the airline wants to buy 200 aircraft. The carrier is in early stage talks with two planemakers, and is happy to wait untill their "order book collapses" negotiate a better deal.
The planes have a book value of about £50M each but Ryanair expects to negotiate at least 50% discount.
Any new planes would be for deliverybetween 2013 and 2016 unquote".
The planemakers are Boeing and Airbus.
Looks like going over the pond is a real possibility.
Look out you big boys
The planes have a book value of about £50M each but Ryanair expects to negotiate at least 50% discount.
Any new planes would be for deliverybetween 2013 and 2016 unquote".
The planemakers are Boeing and Airbus.
Looks like going over the pond is a real possibility.
Look out you big boys
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I like the latest Ryanair Price Guarantee....What..can only book on two days?? Check their site to see for yourself.
John Leahy, Airbus chief commercial officer, said: "We are not in discussions with Ryanair about aircraft. That is on the record. We don't have plans to enter a sales campaign with Ryanair, which would be very expensive and very time-consuming."
So back to Boeing who will have read with interest the comments from O'leary on his last deal, the views of Airbus and might be thinking hmmmm...does it helpBoeing when he moves on aircraft in the long run.
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John Leahy, Airbus chief commercial officer, said: "We are not in discussions with Ryanair about aircraft. That is on the record. We don't have plans to enter a sales campaign with Ryanair, which would be very expensive and very time-consuming."
So back to Boeing who will have read with interest the comments from O'leary on his last deal, the views of Airbus and might be thinking hmmmm...does it helpBoeing when he moves on aircraft in the long run.
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It appears Liverpool is next for the chopping board, Michael Cawley announced this afternoon.
Jobs to be axed as Ryanair cuts flights
18/02/2009 - 15:31:33
Ryanair today announced plans to cut flights from Liverpool airport, with the loss of 50 jobs, blaming “high and rising” UK government passenger duty as well as falling sterling exchange rates.
There had been a “devastating impact” on the airport, which had become a higher cost destination and uncompetitive against other European cities, said the airline.
Ryanair said its business continued to grow at airports where governments did not impose such “idiotic” taxes. The company announced it was reducing aircraft operating from Liverpool from seven to six, cutting flights and axing jobs among pilots, cabin crew and engineers.
Further cuts in Ryanair’s winter schedule at Liverpool will be announced later.
Spokesman Michael Cawley said: “The combination of the high cost government airport passenger duty (APD) and falls in sterling has already created a traffic collapse at Liverpool Airport.
“The decision by the UK Government to continue to impose high charges and increase them over the next two years is completely unacceptable given the current economic climate.
“Ryanair has repeatedly called for this tax to be scrapped by highlighting that such travel taxes have failed in both the UK and Dutch markets, where they immediately resulted in traffic declines and sadly these declines look set to continue. This Government must realise you can only promote tourism by welcoming visitors, not taxing them.
“These cuts can and will be reversed if the Government’s greedy APD is scrapped – only then can we grow passenger traffic at Liverpool and throughout the UK.”
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Jobs to be axed as Ryanair cuts flights
18/02/2009 - 15:31:33
Ryanair today announced plans to cut flights from Liverpool airport, with the loss of 50 jobs, blaming “high and rising” UK government passenger duty as well as falling sterling exchange rates.
There had been a “devastating impact” on the airport, which had become a higher cost destination and uncompetitive against other European cities, said the airline.
Ryanair said its business continued to grow at airports where governments did not impose such “idiotic” taxes. The company announced it was reducing aircraft operating from Liverpool from seven to six, cutting flights and axing jobs among pilots, cabin crew and engineers.
Further cuts in Ryanair’s winter schedule at Liverpool will be announced later.
Spokesman Michael Cawley said: “The combination of the high cost government airport passenger duty (APD) and falls in sterling has already created a traffic collapse at Liverpool Airport.
“The decision by the UK Government to continue to impose high charges and increase them over the next two years is completely unacceptable given the current economic climate.
“Ryanair has repeatedly called for this tax to be scrapped by highlighting that such travel taxes have failed in both the UK and Dutch markets, where they immediately resulted in traffic declines and sadly these declines look set to continue. This Government must realise you can only promote tourism by welcoming visitors, not taxing them.
“These cuts can and will be reversed if the Government’s greedy APD is scrapped – only then can we grow passenger traffic at Liverpool and throughout the UK.”
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You mean the tax that was increased for ALL UK airports including all their other UK bases and NEW bases!
They sometimes have a point when blaming people but that is pathetic.
Didn't it go up in January 2007? A long time since...
Why don't they just admit it, 10 is too many?!
They sometimes have a point when blaming people but that is pathetic.
Didn't it go up in January 2007? A long time since...
Why don't they just admit it, 10 is too many?!
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airbus do not want ryanair
A masterstroke from Airbus to keep Ryanair in with boeing. As Ryanair only buy airframes at half list price they make a very bad buyer anyway. Ryanair also spend a lot of time blameing boeing for some of the cuts in capacity when we know they have plenty of planes doing nothing.
The latest provisional CAA traffic numbers show very big drops in pax on FR routes. When the report to the stockmarket they show seats sold (some times a 1p) and not the real pax flown. The decline is looking shocking. For the airports that have reported Jan saw 7% less pax departing UK airports compared to Jan08.
The latest provisional CAA traffic numbers show very big drops in pax on FR routes. When the report to the stockmarket they show seats sold (some times a 1p) and not the real pax flown. The decline is looking shocking. For the airports that have reported Jan saw 7% less pax departing UK airports compared to Jan08.
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Everytime they have a small bit of bad news they manage to distract people by reiterating their supposed massive plane orders to make everything look rosy. Airbus/Boeing to battle it out-cutbacks at dublin. New boeing order- cutbacks at Liverpool. I would like to know what they plan to do with the 8 aircraft a month they have arriving at the moment if they are downscaling around the Uk/Ireland. Very strange 
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New Boeings
A little birdie told me part of Ryanairs business plan involved buying A/C in large numbers to get maximun discount and selling them on after a year in small numbers, both making a profit on the deal and keeping maintenance to a minimum. It may or may not be true but in principal the deal makes sense.
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Now would be a good time for other UK airline to start services from the UK to Dublin, with out this gravey train the Ryanair train set is in danger of coming off the tracks.
Ryanair flys cheaper, That they do but bring little else to the party that is positive, flooding the market place with self sponsered cadets (slaves) is not good for anyone in the long term.
Even the Goverment might have held back on some airport duty taxes had it not seen the 99p fares and think 50 million paxs we'll have some of that!
Ryanair flys cheaper, That they do but bring little else to the party that is positive, flooding the market place with self sponsered cadets (slaves) is not good for anyone in the long term.
Even the Goverment might have held back on some airport duty taxes had it not seen the 99p fares and think 50 million paxs we'll have some of that!
Yes lets all blame RYR for degrading terms for pilots Never mind the fact pay for type ratings started long before RYR was on the scene. Lets also forget BMI and easyjet are partaking in pay for line training schemes shall we, something that RYR doesnt do.
Befree yes the falls are bad but I wonder why that is? Do you think that traffic is falling because there's a small economic crisis on the cards? The majors are all reporting massive falls in profits from low pax numbers.
But hey its all going tits up and the end is neigh! For all the armchair experts how would you run an airlines in the current situation seeing as you seem to have all the answers?
Never mind the fact pay for type ratings started long before RYR was on the scene. Lets also forget BMI and easyjet are partaking in pay for line training schemes shall we, something that RYR doesnt do. Befree yes the falls are bad but I wonder why that is? Do you think that traffic is falling because there's a small economic crisis on the cards? The majors are all reporting massive falls in profits from low pax numbers.
But hey its all going tits up and the end is neigh! For all the armchair experts how would you run an airlines in the current situation seeing as you seem to have all the answers?