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Malaga base
The rumour about an upcoming base in AGP is one of the oldest rumours in Ryanair (almost as old as the first announcement of a continental Europe base) - maybe this time it´s going to be real?
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If there is any more news about a Zaragoza base emerging please let us all know straight away. After Cork, I have a lot of fondness for Zaragoza for both the airport and the people.
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ryanair not to buy Aer Lingus or go long haul (just yet)
Ryanair chief executive Michael O’Leary has announced Ryanair are not to bid for Aer Lingus, and are years from going long-haul.
At a speech at Ryanair’s annual general meeting in Dublin, O’Leary said: “I don’t believe we will make a third bid,” however did say "We'd be happy to invest more money in Aer Lingus."
O’Leary also said that Ryanair are at least three or four years away from long-haul flights due to lack of aircraft saying: "While the market or orders for short-haul aircraft has collapsed for both Boeing and Airbus the long-haul order book has held up.”
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At a speech at Ryanair’s annual general meeting in Dublin, O’Leary said: “I don’t believe we will make a third bid,” however did say "We'd be happy to invest more money in Aer Lingus."
O’Leary also said that Ryanair are at least three or four years away from long-haul flights due to lack of aircraft saying: "While the market or orders for short-haul aircraft has collapsed for both Boeing and Airbus the long-haul order book has held up.”
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Off course. And he never lies, does he? He ain't gonna tell the world what his plan is, is he? I think we'll be talking about A.L. early next year, some sort of deal will be made and Molly will have his LH fleet ready within 2 years.
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Best to keep/rent the LHR for now.
1. Not a 'use them or lose them' policy at the moment.
2. Market is down at the moment - when it recovers/when tories say no to the 3rd runway they will rise in value.
1. Not a 'use them or lose them' policy at the moment.
2. Market is down at the moment - when it recovers/when tories say no to the 3rd runway they will rise in value.
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Forget the price structure, look at their safety procedures in the passenger cabin..
Zimmers loaded first. They head for the emergency exit rows, then children in arms again in emergency exit rows. The lead purser suggested there was no problem with such passengers occupying these rows. As for pre briefing passengers in these rows the answer was "we don't, there would be ample time in an emergency to brief them".
As for the the pre departure safety briefing in broken English, it's a joke, especially as it is preceded, and often followed by, the scratch card "sell".
Although this was out of a UK airfield the CAA were not interested. The IAA suggested they are very happy with Ryanair safety procedures.
Fly Ryanair, but look after yourselves, sit at the back where you might have a better chance of exiting the aircraft in an emergency.
Now rwmind me....How much do I pay for my bag in the hold per sector......?
Zimmers loaded first. They head for the emergency exit rows, then children in arms again in emergency exit rows. The lead purser suggested there was no problem with such passengers occupying these rows. As for pre briefing passengers in these rows the answer was "we don't, there would be ample time in an emergency to brief them".
As for the the pre departure safety briefing in broken English, it's a joke, especially as it is preceded, and often followed by, the scratch card "sell".
Although this was out of a UK airfield the CAA were not interested. The IAA suggested they are very happy with Ryanair safety procedures.
Fly Ryanair, but look after yourselves, sit at the back where you might have a better chance of exiting the aircraft in an emergency.
Now rwmind me....How much do I pay for my bag in the hold per sector......?
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"I think we'll be talking about A.L. early next year, some sort of deal will be made and Molly will have his LH fleet ready within 2 years."
I think Freebird is closest to the mark on this. I think that the govt will be anxious that the EI name survives in some way and since it's known in the long haul market (particularly in the US) and reasonably well respected, it seems like a reasonable prediction that the FR long haul operation will carry the EI name (indeed, bear in mind that MO'L has always said that it would NOT bear the FR name).
Over the next few months, you will see EI's long haul operation move more closely to the long haul low cost model (replacement of J class by premium economy, for example), so if it comes to a deal being done, FR will have a readymade template for expansion. It can benefit from its relationship with Boeing to dump the A330s (and the A350 order - which is probably too big an aircraft) and order 787s instead.
I think Freebird is closest to the mark on this. I think that the govt will be anxious that the EI name survives in some way and since it's known in the long haul market (particularly in the US) and reasonably well respected, it seems like a reasonable prediction that the FR long haul operation will carry the EI name (indeed, bear in mind that MO'L has always said that it would NOT bear the FR name).
Over the next few months, you will see EI's long haul operation move more closely to the long haul low cost model (replacement of J class by premium economy, for example), so if it comes to a deal being done, FR will have a readymade template for expansion. It can benefit from its relationship with Boeing to dump the A330s (and the A350 order - which is probably too big an aircraft) and order 787s instead.
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(replacement of J class by premium economy, for example),
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Over the next few months, you will see EI's long haul operation move more closely to the long haul low cost model (replacement of J class by premium economy, for example),
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EI Business Class on long haul is there to stay as they've just revamped the cabins and are doing a big promo/ad campaign in business journals and papers. Rumour also has it that Herr Muller is keen to re-introduce a business class on routes such as AMS, FRF, CDG, BRU, LHR that have a 'business traveller' market.
That all said shouldn't this discussion be on the Aer Lingus thread??
That all said shouldn't this discussion be on the Aer Lingus thread??
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Well once EI have been assimilated, this will be the thread for both. As I've said before hope those shambles I mean shamrock pilots remember their new callsign on those winter nights into STN
woodpecker - I wasn't on the flight to which you refer, so have to believe what happened is as you describe. Playing a recorded message for the safety demonstration relies on a machine to broadcast the audio component - and like any machine this can of course break down, with someone reading it out as a backup method. Not a common occurrence, but it does happen every now and then. Perhaps the person reading may have had an accent from somewhere other than the UK, or their grammar may not have been absolutely accurate - but then again plenty of native born Brits have less than perfect knowledge of English grammar.
Your comments about the cabin crew allowing those less able to move or children to sit in the exit rows seem more surprising. Did this happen just the once (in which case the cabin crew member may have been a bad egg), or have you seen this happen regularly ?
Any company employing a large number of people will always have a few people not following procedures - this is human nature, and organisations round the world can only but try to pick out the bad eggs. If the captain of the aircraft were for example to do something stupid, there's not much that can be done on the spot - it's no good firing someone while they're still in control of a plane with 150 people onboard.
If however you observe safety breaches happening on a regular basis, then it suggests something more serious - for which aviation regulators would be more interested.
Your comments about the cabin crew allowing those less able to move or children to sit in the exit rows seem more surprising. Did this happen just the once (in which case the cabin crew member may have been a bad egg), or have you seen this happen regularly ?
Any company employing a large number of people will always have a few people not following procedures - this is human nature, and organisations round the world can only but try to pick out the bad eggs. If the captain of the aircraft were for example to do something stupid, there's not much that can be done on the spot - it's no good firing someone while they're still in control of a plane with 150 people onboard.
If however you observe safety breaches happening on a regular basis, then it suggests something more serious - for which aviation regulators would be more interested.
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Davidjohnson6 is quite right the IAA should be your first port of call. Ryanair need to be highlighted for their poor safety culture, it is a small step from poor customer relations to holding the passenger and his safety in contempt. It is one mind set that draws from another. But that is not the point. Ryanair announced a halving of pre tax profit and a post tax loss! MOL has lost the plot. New aircraft arriving all the time, no market for his old aircraft. Dire passenger loads and desperate yields on them. The public increasingly avoid Ryanair at any cost. The man just announced he's in serious trouble because he has to, and what do the media pick up on? Ryanair unlikely to make another attempt on Aer Lingus and Ryanair years away from a long haul fleet. Something is very fishy in the way the media can be so easily played.
PS Super737 sounds like sour grapes, get your flying experience up and have another crack at selection.
PS Super737 sounds like sour grapes, get your flying experience up and have another crack at selection.