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Anyone have any thoughts as to whether Ryanair will announce Bratislava as a new base in the next 6 months ? Perhaps wait for NE to cease operations, and then do a "Ryanair to rescue the people of Bratislava" publicity stunt ? Should be be a way to use a couple of otherwise dormant airframes over the winter.
Alternatively, will BTS management realise that they need to have a 2nd airline with a substantial amount of flying at BTS to avoid being continually threatened with withdrawal of routes whenever airport fees are being discussed ?
Alternatively, will BTS management realise that they need to have a 2nd airline with a substantial amount of flying at BTS to avoid being continually threatened with withdrawal of routes whenever airport fees are being discussed ?
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That was changed about a year ago. That was when I got my Electron. I am not trying to defend Ryanair here, just stating the facts...
By the way as I has understood it you can get a Visa Electron at Halifax and at Coop (?) in the UK. But I believe it is almost impossible on Ireland..
Bengt: The last time I tried to book a RYR flight the difference between Visa DEBIT & Visa CREDIT card was about 4 euros: credit card being more expensive. RYR did not recognise my card number as a DEBIT card. Everyone else does. That is my gripe. The money goes from my a/c directly with little or no charge from my bank. RYR are conning me. Full Stop.
By the way as I has understood it you can get a Visa Electron at Halifax and at Coop (?) in the UK. But I believe it is almost impossible on Ireland..
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unless you really need to fly to some former Eastern Bloc airbase 50km outside some un-pronouncable town on a tuesday morning......
Un-pronouncable towns... well, you mean Slavic ones? I guess Finnish words and names are equally difficult, so what? People still fly here. And to CE Europe as well.
Military airports of former Eastern Bloc? Both Hahn and Weeze are also former military airports, of Western Bloc, would you prefer them to become abandoned just due to their past?
Your personal hatred towards FR or lccs in general seems to influence your opinions in much broader context, I suppose.
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So Ryanair have now announced that growth will be frozen at their 9 UK bases as a result of the APD. This in addition to reducing planes at DUB & SNN.
All they seem to do these days is announce non expansion or cuts, so where are they actually going to place these planes to achieve the passenger growth they anticipate. With so many new planes coming in over the winter and so many existing planes being pulled, should they not be announcing some new bases or base expansions soon?
I believe they mentioned they would announce some new bases in July but surely they must have about 20 planes to allocate at this stage?
All they seem to do these days is announce non expansion or cuts, so where are they actually going to place these planes to achieve the passenger growth they anticipate. With so many new planes coming in over the winter and so many existing planes being pulled, should they not be announcing some new bases or base expansions soon?
I believe they mentioned they would announce some new bases in July but surely they must have about 20 planes to allocate at this stage?
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Yep just the usual subterfuge that MOL comes out with. As we all know it takes the heat off the main issues and by and large the media and analysts seem to fall for it time and again. Like for example how is he going to get cheap aircraft with Airbus not willing to enter into a bidding war.
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Pee, I think you've summed up ASFKAP's rants pretty well.
I'm a member of the general public and I don't like it.
the reality of the situation is that the general public aren't really complaining about it....
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When was the march, I must have missed that one....?
ASFKAP, do you believe that the tax is having no effect on the airline and tourism industry in Ireland?
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To my mind, there is nothing wrong in Ryanair's basic model. To provide cheaper services for a broad public. Giving pax the opportunity to save on flying, to fly more often, to spend more money at the destination, less for air travel.
There's also nothing wrong in using these minor airports, as long as on another side of the route exists a bigger one (a base presumably). It's cheaper to use them, many smaller airports are very pleasant indeed. The vicinity is sometimes very beautiful, tourists are always able to find more or less fascinating attractions nearby. Local people are keen to have better links to other places in Europe too.
The carrier has been able to exploit this very well and has grown rapidly. What has been disregarded by FR - it's the need to adjust the model to the changing environment (the level of competition, saturation of the market, more demanding and less price-sensitive passengers reacting on other type of inducement than cheap propaganda MOL's style, and so on). Some kind of face-lifting operation still can be done, to get more clients (and to keep the old ones). In fact a kind of re-branding has to be implemented pretty soon, if Ryanair want to sustain the growth.
Nowadays, the lack of customer care is much more disturbing and jeopardizing the entire model than any government tax (unnecessary, true, but used as an excuse for everything). It's not so expensive to change that. Why not surprise us in a positive way?
There's also nothing wrong in using these minor airports, as long as on another side of the route exists a bigger one (a base presumably). It's cheaper to use them, many smaller airports are very pleasant indeed. The vicinity is sometimes very beautiful, tourists are always able to find more or less fascinating attractions nearby. Local people are keen to have better links to other places in Europe too.
The carrier has been able to exploit this very well and has grown rapidly. What has been disregarded by FR - it's the need to adjust the model to the changing environment (the level of competition, saturation of the market, more demanding and less price-sensitive passengers reacting on other type of inducement than cheap propaganda MOL's style, and so on). Some kind of face-lifting operation still can be done, to get more clients (and to keep the old ones). In fact a kind of re-branding has to be implemented pretty soon, if Ryanair want to sustain the growth.
Nowadays, the lack of customer care is much more disturbing and jeopardizing the entire model than any government tax (unnecessary, true, but used as an excuse for everything). It's not so expensive to change that. Why not surprise us in a positive way?
Seen on Bloomberg, rather than Ryanair website, so cannot vouch for its veracity
Ryanair Will Abolish Checked Luggage to Reduce Costs (Update1) - Bloomberg.com
Ryanair Will Abolish Checked Luggage to Reduce Costs (Update1) - Bloomberg.com
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Further to davidjohnson6's posting, there is a real danger that Ryanair is creating a significant pool of would-be customers who are rendered UNABLE to use the company's flights in the future. We all know of people who are not internet connected, and some (often older people) who do not have the facility to check-in online. There are many people who MUST take significant luggage away with them on their travels, eg. accessories for babies, kit for long stays in holiday homes abroad, sports equipment etc. If Ryanair's actions actually exclude these travelers from their pool of potential customers, then life for Ryanair could become increasingly difficult. There is already a hardcore of customers who avoid Ryanair due to customer service issues; if they now exclude a wedge of willing customers who would otherwise be minded to avail themselves of Ryanair flights, their wares will end up in pursuit of an ever-shrinking customer-base.
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Titbits
Ryanair set to announce:
Porto - Saint-Etienne (twice weekly)
Does this mean a Porto base? Or maybe a W, but there is no mention of other Saint-Etienne routes, and most Porto routes are long enough sectors not condusive to W's, with exception of Madrid and Girona. A Saint-Etienne base seems improbable given they have no current routes there, and the fact that it's France and the legal wranglings Ryanair are currently in about Marseille base employees having Irish contracts...
Source: Has disappeared from the internet. But if you search "Ryanair" here then the introduction of the article is visible:
Rechercher dans les archives du journal
More talk of a base at Barcelona El Prat, and even how Ryanair would consider the route BCN - MAD (that could keep a couple of aircraft busy every day if they were gonna go at it with high frequncies).
Source: Ryanair busca extender su dominio en El Prat en Cincodias.com
Porto - Saint-Etienne (twice weekly)
Does this mean a Porto base? Or maybe a W, but there is no mention of other Saint-Etienne routes, and most Porto routes are long enough sectors not condusive to W's, with exception of Madrid and Girona. A Saint-Etienne base seems improbable given they have no current routes there, and the fact that it's France and the legal wranglings Ryanair are currently in about Marseille base employees having Irish contracts...
Source: Has disappeared from the internet. But if you search "Ryanair" here then the introduction of the article is visible:
Rechercher dans les archives du journal
More talk of a base at Barcelona El Prat, and even how Ryanair would consider the route BCN - MAD (that could keep a couple of aircraft busy every day if they were gonna go at it with high frequncies).
Source: Ryanair busca extender su dominio en El Prat en Cincodias.com
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bargain
just booked a return fare to gerona from amnchester next month for 20 quid, no online fee or nowt, bargain, also noticed more frequency on the route from october, also breman and milan goes daily
There are many people who MUST take significant luggage away with them on their travels, eg. accessories for babies, kit for long stays in holiday homes abroad, sports equipment etc.
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Hi Racedo,
May I draw your attention to the posting by davidjohnson6 at 18:23. My posting refers to forthcoming changes to be introduced by Ryanair, not the procedures which apply at the present time.
Regards, SHED.
May I draw your attention to the posting by davidjohnson6 at 18:23. My posting refers to forthcoming changes to be introduced by Ryanair, not the procedures which apply at the present time.
Regards, SHED.
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the spokesman said that the charges could be avoided by using the Visa Electron card, the presenter pointed out that they were impossible to get in Ireland,
"nonsense" replied the spokesman, "we all have them in our office and we use them all the time..."
"But where did you get yours?" the interviewer asked
"Well I don't have one myself" he replied " but some of the people in the office do"
"well where did they get theirs?" he was asked
"Er....I don't know, you should ask the banks...."
"nonsense" replied the spokesman, "we all have them in our office and we use them all the time..."
"But where did you get yours?" the interviewer asked
"Well I don't have one myself" he replied " but some of the people in the office do"
"well where did they get theirs?" he was asked
"Er....I don't know, you should ask the banks...."