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Giving away millions of free tickets that will not get used is a great way to up your load factor. You need real paying pax to pay the bills.
They will not have carried 11% more pax they just gave away more tickets. The data from FRs main airports will show how flying is falling. The October CAA data shows big drops on many FR routes ex UK.
Ryanair have big problems and are losing routes a quite a fast rate. I am sure some small airstrips they serve will go broke this winter. The big airports will only take on FR at a price as FR will kill of thier other airlines. Just look at the mess at BHX. Every new FR plane takes out around two others.
They will not have carried 11% more pax they just gave away more tickets. The data from FRs main airports will show how flying is falling. The October CAA data shows big drops on many FR routes ex UK.
Ryanair have big problems and are losing routes a quite a fast rate. I am sure some small airstrips they serve will go broke this winter. The big airports will only take on FR at a price as FR will kill of thier other airlines. Just look at the mess at BHX. Every new FR plane takes out around two others.
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Ryanair have big problems and are losing routes a quite a fast rate.
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FUE is a nice little 'Windy' Airport!
Surprised hearing FR have decided to pull out, Thought they were 'Building' up a base there.
FR did boost up the Pax figures at FUE.
If money is owed, I'm sure it is only in both parties interests to 'Resolve' the stoppage?
Surprised hearing FR have decided to pull out, Thought they were 'Building' up a base there.
FR did boost up the Pax figures at FUE.
If money is owed, I'm sure it is only in both parties interests to 'Resolve' the stoppage?
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I agree, they have increased passenger figures dramatically and I'd say their load factor is on average 90%. But, when Ryanair are involved in a financial dispute, they normally insist it's their way or no way.
There is a public campaign going on in Fue to reverse their decision but it's unclear if this will have any effect. Easyjet service Fue from Madrid and there are rumours that they might step in if Ryanair pull out???
There is a public campaign going on in Fue to reverse their decision but it's unclear if this will have any effect. Easyjet service Fue from Madrid and there are rumours that they might step in if Ryanair pull out???
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Just look at the mess at BHX. Every new FR plane takes out around two others.
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An other (chronical) way of losing the customers.
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An error has occurred. Very informative indeed.
Or you may prefer to pick an other airline.
An other (chronical) way of losing the customers.
Additional details about the error:
An error has occurred. Very informative indeed.
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Just announced: Ryanair is to operate a service between Malta and Trapani from February 5.
The flights will be operate twice weekly until April 29 and the frequency will increase to four times a week as from May 1.
A viable route, presumably. Let me be, however, critical once again. Will the following timetable be suitable enough for the average passenger?
When there are routes without any economical sense of flying twice-daily, you still can provide day-trips for tourists and businessmen. In case of Malta, it could have been e.g. like that:
The flights will be operate twice weekly until April 29 and the frequency will increase to four times a week as from May 1.
A viable route, presumably. Let me be, however, critical once again. Will the following timetable be suitable enough for the average passenger?
Depart:
Trapani (Sicily) 21:55
Arrive:
Malta (Luqa) 22:35
and
Depart:
Malta (Luqa) 23:00
Arrive:
Trapani (Sicily) 23:40
Flying late in the evening, returning in the evening. Not a slightest possibility for a day-trip. Why so complete lack of creativity? Is it so difficult to try to answer the passengers' needs?Trapani (Sicily) 21:55
Arrive:
Malta (Luqa) 22:35
and
Depart:
Malta (Luqa) 23:00
Arrive:
Trapani (Sicily) 23:40
When there are routes without any economical sense of flying twice-daily, you still can provide day-trips for tourists and businessmen. In case of Malta, it could have been e.g. like that:
Day One:
Trapani 6:00 - Malta 6:40
Malta 7:05 - Pisa 8:30
Pisa 8:55 - Trapani 10:20
---- and the opposite way:
Trapani 19:20 - Pisa 20:45
Pisa 21:10 - Malta 22:35
Malta 23:00 - Trapani 23:40.
day-trips from Trapani to Malta, Malta to Pisa and Pisa to Trapani
Day Two
Trapani 6:00 - Pisa 7:25
Pisa 7:50 - Malta 9:15
Malta 9:40 - Trapani 10:20.
---- and in the evening
Trapani 19:20 - Malta 20:00
Malta 20:25 - Pisa 21:50
Pisa 22:15 - Trapani 23:40
In turn, day-trips from Trapani to Pisa, Pisa to Malta and Malta to Trapani possible.
I mean, is the construction of more pax-friendly schedules so difficult/insurmountable indeed? One can tempt pax in many different ways, not only offering them some free flights...
Trapani 6:00 - Malta 6:40
Malta 7:05 - Pisa 8:30
Pisa 8:55 - Trapani 10:20
---- and the opposite way:
Trapani 19:20 - Pisa 20:45
Pisa 21:10 - Malta 22:35
Malta 23:00 - Trapani 23:40.
day-trips from Trapani to Malta, Malta to Pisa and Pisa to Trapani
Day Two
Trapani 6:00 - Pisa 7:25
Pisa 7:50 - Malta 9:15
Malta 9:40 - Trapani 10:20.
---- and in the evening
Trapani 19:20 - Malta 20:00
Malta 20:25 - Pisa 21:50
Pisa 22:15 - Trapani 23:40
In turn, day-trips from Trapani to Pisa, Pisa to Malta and Malta to Trapani possible.
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I agree. Another example is the newly-opened Madrid-Stansted route. Now, I'd love to visit Madrid for the day (to see the latest exhibition at the Prado, for example) but, because the route is operated using Madrid-based crew and aircraft, day trips from London are less attractive than ones from Madrid. Even though the London catchment area is considerably larger in population terms than Madrid's, I assume that the cost savings in using Spanish-based crew must have outweighed this consideration when Ryanair decided on the schedules.
Or is Ryanair's scheduling less sophisticated than I imagine.....?
Would anyone "on the inside" care to comment?!
Or is Ryanair's scheduling less sophisticated than I imagine.....?
Would anyone "on the inside" care to comment?!
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MOL on the Late Late Show
Originally Posted by Tom the Tenor
Ducksie's on the Late, Late Show at 9.30 pm tonight on RTE1 tv.
Should be entertaining.
Should be entertaining.
If you want to do a London-originating daytrip from either LTN or LGW to Madrid, look at Easyjet.
To fly London-Madrid takes about 2h30. To have a flight departing Madrid at 7 am AND a flight departing London at 7 am requires 2 planes. Ryanair have chosen to have MAD-based airframes + crews as a competitive spoiler to prevent Easyjet, Vueling and Clickair being able to make too much cash out of Madrid - it's certainly not Ryanair's most profitable base.
Similiar thing applies to the Malta-Trapani route. The premium routes from Malta to Sicily will be to Palermo and Catania. Trapani is 70 miles by road from Palermo - it's a leisure-focussed airport, not a business one. A route like London-Rome seems far more likely to do profitable day-trips than Malta-Trapani.
To fly London-Madrid takes about 2h30. To have a flight departing Madrid at 7 am AND a flight departing London at 7 am requires 2 planes. Ryanair have chosen to have MAD-based airframes + crews as a competitive spoiler to prevent Easyjet, Vueling and Clickair being able to make too much cash out of Madrid - it's certainly not Ryanair's most profitable base.
Similiar thing applies to the Malta-Trapani route. The premium routes from Malta to Sicily will be to Palermo and Catania. Trapani is 70 miles by road from Palermo - it's a leisure-focussed airport, not a business one. A route like London-Rome seems far more likely to do profitable day-trips than Malta-Trapani.
Cuneo
On a separate note, FR are selling flights from Stansted to Cuneo departing and returning on Saturdays in January and Feburary for £2 round-trip, no taxes. Guess this must be celebrate (!) how well this ski route is doing...
On a separate note, FR are selling flights from Stansted to Cuneo departing and returning on Saturdays in January and Feburary for £2 round-trip, no taxes. Guess this must be celebrate (!) how well this ski route is doing...
Alicante for £1 looks good.
Not a big FR user - but as they charge for everything including check in if you cant do it "on line" cant see many skiers flying FR if you are taking your own kit................
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is Ryanair's scheduling less sophisticated than I imagine.....?
If I admit than at the end, it benefits the passenger, I disagree with anybody that will state that they are brillant people. Ryanair low salaries/high subsidies business model is nothing brillant, MOL is far from being brillant, nobody there neither their systems are brillant, but they just have low morality (or cunning) enough to be made profitable thanks to the airports/cabin crew
MLATPS is non sense to me, but I guess they obtained good money from the airports. No studies, and as always, they'll try it 6 months, then if it's not good enough, they'll ask extra subsidies from the airports, or they'll axe it, as they did whith VLCMLA or with many non sense routes they already launched. Easy way of making business, but definitely nothing genious
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Ryanair Confirm end of FUE flights
Ryanair Confirms Closure of Fuerteventura Routes from January ’09
Ryanair, Europe’s largest low fares airline, today (10th Dec) confirmed that it will close all of its routes to/from Fuerteventura from 31st January after local tourism group AIE failed to honor the commercial agreement it entered into with Ryanair to promote Fuerteventura as a tourist destination.
Since Ryanair began flying to Fuerteventura in 2006 annual passenger numbers have increased over one hundred fold from just 2,000 to over 250,000. However, because of the AIE’s breach of its agreement with Ryanair one of its Dublin flights to Fuerteventura was cancelled from 6th November and Ryanair has now confirmed the closure of 23 weekly services on nine international routes to/from Fuerteventura from 31st January. This follows extensive efforts by Ryanair to encourage the AIE to honor the agreement they had signed.
Ryanair will close all services to/from Fuerteventura including Birmingham (3 per week), Bremen (2pw), Dublin (2pw), Dusseldorf (Weeze) (4pw), East Midlands (3pw), Frankfurt (2pw), Liverpool (3pw), London (3pw) and Shannon (1pw) from 31st January.
Ryanair confirmed legal action, for breach of the agreement, will continue against AIE and its individual members.
Speaking today, Ryanair’s Michael Cawley, said:
“This is a very black day for Fuerteventura and one which will have a severe impact on tourism and the livelihoods of its islanders. Ryanair’s lowest fares and no fuel surcharge have delivered huge tourism revenues and over 250,000 annual passengers will now be lost to/from Fuerteventura. At a time when Spanish tourism numbers are falling Ryanair’s passenger traffic continues to grow as our fares continue to fall. However, the AIE has now taken a huge gamble with the livelihoods of the local tourism industry by blatantly reneging on its contractual commitments and losing Ryanair’s 23 weekly services to the island.
“Ryanair previously called on the AIE to comply with its contractual agreements and provided them with 30 days notice to remedy their contract breach, this notice period has now lapsed with no action having been taken to maintain Ryanair’s presence in Fuerteventura. Therefore, we are faced with no choice but to end all Ryanair flights to Fuerteventura from 31st January”.
Ryanair, Europe’s largest low fares airline, today (10th Dec) confirmed that it will close all of its routes to/from Fuerteventura from 31st January after local tourism group AIE failed to honor the commercial agreement it entered into with Ryanair to promote Fuerteventura as a tourist destination.
Since Ryanair began flying to Fuerteventura in 2006 annual passenger numbers have increased over one hundred fold from just 2,000 to over 250,000. However, because of the AIE’s breach of its agreement with Ryanair one of its Dublin flights to Fuerteventura was cancelled from 6th November and Ryanair has now confirmed the closure of 23 weekly services on nine international routes to/from Fuerteventura from 31st January. This follows extensive efforts by Ryanair to encourage the AIE to honor the agreement they had signed.
Ryanair will close all services to/from Fuerteventura including Birmingham (3 per week), Bremen (2pw), Dublin (2pw), Dusseldorf (Weeze) (4pw), East Midlands (3pw), Frankfurt (2pw), Liverpool (3pw), London (3pw) and Shannon (1pw) from 31st January.
Ryanair confirmed legal action, for breach of the agreement, will continue against AIE and its individual members.
Speaking today, Ryanair’s Michael Cawley, said:
“This is a very black day for Fuerteventura and one which will have a severe impact on tourism and the livelihoods of its islanders. Ryanair’s lowest fares and no fuel surcharge have delivered huge tourism revenues and over 250,000 annual passengers will now be lost to/from Fuerteventura. At a time when Spanish tourism numbers are falling Ryanair’s passenger traffic continues to grow as our fares continue to fall. However, the AIE has now taken a huge gamble with the livelihoods of the local tourism industry by blatantly reneging on its contractual commitments and losing Ryanair’s 23 weekly services to the island.
“Ryanair previously called on the AIE to comply with its contractual agreements and provided them with 30 days notice to remedy their contract breach, this notice period has now lapsed with no action having been taken to maintain Ryanair’s presence in Fuerteventura. Therefore, we are faced with no choice but to end all Ryanair flights to Fuerteventura from 31st January”.
