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Old 31st Jul 2009, 07:01
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Do you like puzzles? Here is one for you to solve.
FR is set to open one new base in Britain — housing up to three aircraft — by the end of October.

O'Leary said yesterday that the company is considering three airports for the new base and could be in a position to make a further announcement within the next fortnight, with the new hub possibly being operational by the end of October. Mr O’Leary said that Ryanair currently flies to two of the three airports being considered. It would bring to 34 the number of European hubs, Ryanair operates.
You can also read more in the Irish Examiner.

So, which could be the three airports in question? And what's the airport not yet being flown to?
In fact, there are not so many left in the entire UK. Cardiff perhaps?

An additional puzzle for me: why all that fuss about the reduction of UK flights when at the same the new base will be announced there?
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Old 31st Jul 2009, 07:20
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With an announcement on the runway extension at BHD due any day soon, it may not go FR's way, hopefully 'cryinair' won't be coming to BFS.
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Old 31st Jul 2009, 07:21
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I would guess two out of MAN, LBA and NCL as the two existing points of operation and CWL as the third.

If you look at their existing route map, the only existing UK points that are not bases are ABZ (will never support 3 aircraft), LDY (same), NQY (same), DSA (possibly, but still so very close to EMA, BHX), LGW (difficult to see where they'd get the slots to run year-round services for three whole aircraft..after all the lions share of EI's slots at LGW have been handed to them on a plate by BA, which is hardly likely to happen with FR) which just leaves MAN, LBA and NCL.
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Old 31st Jul 2009, 07:23
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"Due to theBritish Governments refusal to remove the idiotic tax on tourism......we will halt all expansion at UK airports"

One week later and they announce about 25 new routes to the canaries now a new UK base is in the pipeline. I wonder how do these guys keep a straight face at any press conference they do.

In terms of where the next base is I would say the airports they are talking to which they fly to currently are two from Gatwick / Manchester / Leeds and the one which the do not currently fly to would be Cardiff or Glasgow International?

Any one know anything more concrete?
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Old 31st Jul 2009, 08:13
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How easy is it to get slots at MAN?

Putting three aircraft in there doesn't sound like that easy a task.

Also, would Durham-Tees Valley not be a possible base?
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Old 31st Jul 2009, 08:30
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FR is set to open one new base in Britain — housing up to three aircraft — by the end of October.
My money's on Gatwick. "Die Aer Lingus, Die".
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Old 31st Jul 2009, 08:32
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Well, I geuss the TA operation is going to be something to play by ear and wait and see...

Awaiting MOL's reply - it will be excellent as they have just bad mouthed Ryanair!

The cardinal sin!
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Old 31st Jul 2009, 08:45
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Dublin Airport puts Ryanair in their box...

DAA Statement Regarding Ryanair Capacity Cuts
Good old DAA such a well managed company.

After all it has such good controls that it allowed Cork Airport spend €200 M plus on an airport that carries 3 million passengers a year and then claimed it didn't know it was happening or

Spending €1 Billion on Dublin and ignoring what its customers want while watching its passenger numbers decrease by 10%.
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Old 31st Jul 2009, 08:50
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I don't believe it. First we got BRI or BDS as a possible base followed by SVQ and GOA. Yesterday TSF (and FR is in talks with NAP and CTA) and now a new base somewhere in Britain.
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Old 31st Jul 2009, 08:52
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MAN Slots

Hi 840,

The marked decline in Air Transport Movements at MAN over the last two years means that acquiring runway slots for three based units is unlikely to be a problem. And in the case of Ryanair which seems to favour first rotations in the 06-07 hour (local time) there would be even less of an issue.

I suspect that whether Ryanair chooses MAN or an alternative airport will be wholly down to the financial package on offer and not runway capacity.

Cheers, SHED.
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Old 31st Jul 2009, 08:56
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Thanks for that.

I'd been under the impression that slots weren't things you easily got at MAN, but I guess the world has changed a lot in the last few years.

I'd imagine one thing that counts against MAN is the proximity of the existing base at Liverpool.

Thinking of it in those terms, the obvious gap in Ryanair's UK bases is in the North-East, so Newcastle and Durham-Tees Valley must be contenders. But as you say, the package offered by the airports may be as important as the potential market.
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When you see the number of Ryanair flights in an evening at MAN you would wonder

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Old 31st Jul 2009, 09:16
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Some of your criticisms of DAA may well be valid Racedo, but is there anything that the DAA statement says about Ryanair that is inaccurate? Surely it hits the nail on the head, hence your diversion onto other issues.
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my money would be on LBA

Jet2 have LBA to themselves at the minute and this is reflected in the price they charge from LBA when compared to the same destinations flown from other Jet2 bases.

With the airport having been given the nod to spend 28million on terminal improvements (ie more shops) they need more pax to command rentals to pay for it and whilst Jet2 have done a great job for Leeds pax numbers are still stuck the wrong side of 3m, whilst 3 based aircraft might not worry Jet2 the impact will be much greater because far more aircraft will route through Leeds from non UK based aircraft

Question can the 737-800 with a full load land on R32 (Autoland) in the wet and whats the max tailwind 0-10knts?

Ryanair are very strick about SAC, not easy at LBA when its very windy
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My money is also on Gatwick as the new base, offering - oh so original - routes that Aer Lingus is flying; Faro, Malaga, Memmingen (West Munich) Dublin, Basel, Marseilles, Krakow (definietly a Polish destination) Lanzarote and Tenerife.

Well, EI don't fly to Basel and Marseilles - but you get what I mean!

Direct competition with Aer Lingus. And some with Easyjet.

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Old 31st Jul 2009, 09:54
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they do suit the airports operations: short haul low cost
Very good at it to and they want, as the Government suggested, extensions to both ends of the runway.

they do suit the airports operations: short haul low cost
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Old 31st Jul 2009, 13:57
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BA reporting a loss of £148m makes Ryanairs
performance seem good.
Or do others have a different reading of this?

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Old 31st Jul 2009, 14:31
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A UK airport that Ryanair currently doesn't fly to. That's one very short list!
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Old 31st Jul 2009, 14:33
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Cardiff as they pulled out recently?
Glasgow where they last flew BAC111s in the late 1980s? I still remember seeing them roar overhead....

They've also just pulled out of Inverness but that's less likely.
Blackpool or Exeter are a bit leftfield....

I doubt they'd make Gatwick a base, you can almost hear the screams of panic as the crew are asked to hold remote for the stand to become available. I recall one easyJet pilot informing Gatwick Ground that the Ryanair on his left was NOT ready for push and start as the doors were wide open and they had no tug, and so could they please stop holding him up and let him push now!
Tis not really a Ryanair airport, not a criticsim, just the way it is.

Mickeyman comparing BA with FR is comparing apples and oranges. Not a FACT, just an opinion.....
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Old 31st Jul 2009, 15:03
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Aside from those mentioned, other options are
- Southampton - But the runway is short and it's close to Bournemouth
- Southend - Similar runway problems
- Manston - Has failed to support regular services previously
- Norwich - Again issues with the runway length
- Humberside - Problems with the market size for 3 aircraft and isn't that far from Doncaster or EMA
- Jersey - Another short runway

There's a few others (mostly ex-RAF bases) that have adequate runways, but nowhere near enough catchment.
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