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Old 19th Aug 2008, 20:14
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Grrr

Any idea when Ryanair are going to include all the hidden charges/taxes in their headline fares, as per the enforcement?

I went to book flights this evening and still Ryanair defies!
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Old 19th Aug 2008, 21:01
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Ryanair is canceling tickets bought through third party websites... an update by About.com
The latest from the Irish airline is that it is currently denying boarding to 450 people a day, despite being asked by the National Consumer Agency in Ireland to at least honor flights bought before August 11. Ryanair said no. Though passengers are being reimbursed, this is 450 ruined vacations a day.
I know, smart people book directly via ryanair.com website. But not everybody is smart enough, should these guys be punished now?
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Old 19th Aug 2008, 23:30
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What if you are a elderly person scared of computers or someone with dyslexia, or other disabilities and the only way to book flights is through a third party. Why should people be punished again. I cannot see Ryanair's problem they are still getting there iwn advertised price and filling up their aircraft.
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Old 20th Aug 2008, 10:33
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You misunderstand. Its third party WEBSITES they are banning, not a third party person who books the tickets for you.
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Old 20th Aug 2008, 10:51
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Sorry I should have made myself clearer. I did not mean a third party as in friend relative ect or even websites. I was thinking more of travel agents flight only specialists.
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Old 20th Aug 2008, 13:05
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"Travel agent flight only specialists" can book directly on ryanair.com!
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Old 20th Aug 2008, 13:31
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No STN-FUE flights from the 13JAN?
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Old 20th Aug 2008, 15:06
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read the post I was replying to
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Old 20th Aug 2008, 16:22
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Any idea when Ryanair are going to include all the hidden charges/taxes in their headline fares, as per the enforcement?
You mustn't have refreshed your browser, they already do. If you're refering to the debit/credit card fee then admittedly they are pushing the limits with this one but are still complying as long as the Visa Electron (or alternative) option remains free. Hope you got yourself a few of those €5/£5 flights they're selling at the minute!
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Is it just me or is the Ryanair website playing up big style again?

Last week i tried checking in on-line for my PIK-BOU flight but could not complete it as the very bottom right hand field was incomplete. All it showed was: "Country of ". There was no dropdown box to select anything. I arrived at PIK and explained the problem and they happily stamped my various printed off proofs (on 4 different PCs) "No Charge" and a I used the normal check-in.

Today I tried to change my return but it steadfastly refused to allow me. I eventually had to call the Reservation Centre. I use the "Rest of the World +353 1 249 7791" number as it ony costs me 2p per minute on 18866.com as opposed to the 0871 UK number at 10p per minute. After a long wiat I eventually got through to someone who replicated what I was doing and agreed the site is broken and mad ethe change for me at Internet prices.

Tonight I've tried to check-in on-line again and got exactly the same issue again: the very bottom right hand field was incomplete.
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Old 20th Aug 2008, 21:33
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The site has been playing up. See my posts under Ryanair Website Not Taking Booking? in the Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight) forum.

Unlike you, the Reservations centre would not offer me the website price.
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Old 21st Aug 2008, 10:19
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Ryanair Website Not Taking Booking?
Well, it's a nuisance for the passengers, but it's an obvious financial loss for the airline too. They say MOL is talented in cutting the cost base. Well, he is, no doubts about it. But there are still many gaps in the Ryanair scheme and many money-burning flows. The booking system is certainly one of them.

What would cost the fast creation of a better booking system? I bet the costs of such a fully-functional system would be much lower than the amount of money lost within the half year of that hopeless juggle with the present one. It still doesn't work properly, I believe it's a time bomb with more problems ahead.

Cutting the costs required? There is an other issue that should be addressed, it's a route policy. In fact Ryanair doesn't have any consistent route policy. I perceive it as something like "try-it-and-dump-or-continue" rule. The research... do they have any? FR does not seem to pay enough attention to the viability of some routes, in some cases the reaction is very slow. Being more active in seeking opportunities could be profitable too.

Once again, I'll give an example from my own yard - analyzing the Finnish market. Let's compare two longest routes from Tampere, these are DUB-TMP and BGY-TMP. The former is just an average one, with load factors around 80% and not the best yields. Right now one can get flights from September onwards for just 5 euros on many dates. Checking the latter we see an excellent load factors to Bergamo, over 90% across the board, very often up to 100%. The fares unusually high, hardly ever below 50 euros, last minute prices as high as 200 euros one-way. What would the flexible airline do? Firstly, it would try to rise the frequencies on the "better" route keeping an eye on the less profitable one. Secondly, it would try to broaden the offer by cautiously adding other routes between the two successful countries (Italy-Finland in that case; Pisa? Rome?). Thirdly, it would analyze which direction of flights to the country is more popular, e.g. East-West or North-South and would try to find similar destinations in the nearby counties. And so on.

Ryanair seems to be "immune" to such nuances like the passengers' "wish list". Why? Is this lack of flexibility due to lack of applicable "marketing agreements" and other deals? If that's the case it must be a very crippling rule, is it worth it? The possible gains resulting from some deals might not level the losses.
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Old 21st Aug 2008, 10:53
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Pee, there may exist other conditions, primarily negotiations with the airport over charges and costs, which are restricting growth.
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Old 21st Aug 2008, 11:10
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there may exist other conditions, primarily negotiations with the airport over charges and costs, which are restricting growth
Of course there are many such conditions. But the growth can be hampered also by being too rigid in sticking to one's own rules. Say, flying for nothing because the agreement is so good, not flying where excellent earnings could be achieved even with the conditions as they are.
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Old 23rd Aug 2008, 18:46
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Say, flying for nothing because the agreement is so good, not flying where excellent earnings could be achieved even with the conditions as they are.
As The Real Slim Shady states, there might be other factors involved such as,

Airport capacity.
Trained crew with the ability to speak the local language.
Pilots trained to land at certain destinations.
Competition with other airlines.
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Old 23rd Aug 2008, 19:33
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Only very few airports require extra sim training, greenbroker.
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Old 24th Aug 2008, 08:24
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the worlds first airline to offer "priority booking". For a small fee, you are given access to the old booking engine
A bit surrealistic approach, but... who knows? Good as joke, anyway.

The software provider Navitaire has moved to .NET 2.0 framework and Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Enterprise but that has failed to provide more efficiency and caused persistent hobbling of the booking system. There might be some disharmony in relation to the inflated hardware needs caused by the migration, but I suspect many more reasons of the malfunctioning. As a self-educated C++ programmer (just a part-time activity of mine) I would rather turn my suspicions into a lack of a programming algorhythm that would allow to speed up the tasks and lessen the use of hardware resources. Especially the price searches seem to consume much of the computing power. I cannot blame the hardware-hungry M$ technology alone, in fact the new SQL Server allows things like creation of a hot standby database that maintains close synchronization with a primary database, they could make use of it. I could envisage e.g. using a secondary "price" server just to perform actual price searches without burdening the main booking system with other tasks than solely bookings. Or, alternatively, some better price-indexing solutions could be deployed to improve the searches. I do not want to go further into the subject but hope to see the end of this disgrace for both Navitaire and Ryanair.

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Old 27th Aug 2008, 12:53
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Ryanair news from Italy:

Ryanair says no to a future transfer to Viterbo: 'If we are forced to leave from Ciampino we'll leave the region'. That way Alessia Viviani, Ryanair's marketing manager for Southern Europe, answered to the question about the airline stand on the possible transfer of their flights to the future airport Viterbo. Ryanair has been present at Ciampino since 2002 serving there 15 million passengers so far.
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Old 27th Aug 2008, 15:11
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Ryanair are closing some route out of Cork, loss of 100,000 seats. Sorry for the vagueness, as I only caught the tail end of it on the news. I will try to get updated info.
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Old 27th Aug 2008, 15:13
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Ryanair to close two Cork-UK routes

27/08/2008 - 15:56:51
Ryanair has announced the closure of two of the seven routes it operates from Cork.

From the end of October Ryanair will close its daily routes between Cork to East Midlands and Glasgow (Prestwick) airports.

The airline said the move follows a 20% increase in charges being imposed on these two routes by Cork Airport.

The East Midlands route will close on October 26 while the Glasgow service will cease two days later.

Ryanair warned the route cancellations would result in loss of 100,000 passengers at Cork this winter (200,000 in a full year) and amounts to a 6% drop in traffic using the airport.
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