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I'm pretty sure Shady is an FR training captain.
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Not surprising, as the main (and often only) requirement to get made an training skipper is to be a good "company man." Meaning hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil.
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Ryanair is known for using pretty shabby terminals on some airports. If you were asked to name FR's ugliest terminal, which would you vote for? I'd choose Tampere T2, unfortunately. However, yesterday's Aamulehti newspaper has informed (in Finnish) that Finavia Civil Aviation Administration has completed the enlargement plans there. The refurbishment would cost between one and two million euros and the surface area of the terminal would rise by 500 square metre.
According to the article, Finavia expects to get some commitment from the part of low-cost airlines for this terminal to be used sufficiently. It wants them at least to open a few new routes or, better, to place 1 or 2 planes and create a base there. They envisage some Central European destinations as potentially lucrative ones.
Good to see some progress in TMP. After the news I'm a bit disappointed, though. We had to wait several years to get these humble 1 or 2 million euros. Now the money is allocated, but we still hear "if" and "when". Why has it been so much easier to find much bigger amount of money (almost € 150.000) for the enlargement in Vantaa due to Finnair?
And finally, how active will be Finavia in their efforts to get these new routes or concretize the base deal and start the enlargement? Time will tell.
According to the article, Finavia expects to get some commitment from the part of low-cost airlines for this terminal to be used sufficiently. It wants them at least to open a few new routes or, better, to place 1 or 2 planes and create a base there. They envisage some Central European destinations as potentially lucrative ones.
Good to see some progress in TMP. After the news I'm a bit disappointed, though. We had to wait several years to get these humble 1 or 2 million euros. Now the money is allocated, but we still hear "if" and "when". Why has it been so much easier to find much bigger amount of money (almost € 150.000) for the enlargement in Vantaa due to Finnair?
And finally, how active will be Finavia in their efforts to get these new routes or concretize the base deal and start the enlargement? Time will tell.
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your comment is utter twaddle Camel Hair.
the uncomfortable feeling that the low fares I'm enjoying are being paid for by Ryanair's employees.
So remember that the next time you take a flight, your crew have probably walked some miles to the airport, after spending the night in a room shared with 2 or 3 others and won't have eaten or rested during the duty, regardless of length. Not to speak of the cc that faint from time to time due to not being to afford to eat for some days. Far fetched? Sounds it. Truth? Yep, I've seen it happen, more than once.
And don't forget the pilots who sleep in their cars cos they can't afford a hotel or b&b. Safe? You tell me. Happy with their lot? What do you think?
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If he is so disenchanted I leave it to you to question why he doesn't leave.
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There is nothing wrong with the T and Cs.
We get paid a vast amount of money for flying very new shiny aircraft.
We have rosters which allow us to plan our freetime.
We suffer minimal roster disruption.
We have perfectly adequate staff travel facilities.
We have a pension scheme.
We get £5k a year to pay for parking,medicals, uniform etc.
The cabin crew get paid well for working.
Exactly what do you want?
We get paid a vast amount of money for flying very new shiny aircraft.
We have rosters which allow us to plan our freetime.
We suffer minimal roster disruption.
We have perfectly adequate staff travel facilities.
We have a pension scheme.
We get £5k a year to pay for parking,medicals, uniform etc.
The cabin crew get paid well for working.
Exactly what do you want?
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of course!
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The cabin crew get paid well for working.
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this is a lie. Many many cc earn 800 euros/pounds!! At Easyjet a cc gets around 1700-2000 pounds!!! Do you see the difference?
Maybe your sector check is 5000 as a senior captain (plus couple of thousands basic) , but cc with the Ryanair contract gets a basic of 800 (commission already included) , and a sector pay of 400. Dalmac, Crewlink etc contractors don't have basic salary, just sector pay.
So, if you think cc are well paid, then i send you my bank details, and you can transfer 500 euro every month into my account.
The cabin crew get paid well for working.
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this is a lie. Many many cc earn 800 euros/pounds!! At Easyjet a cc gets around 1700-2000 pounds!!! Do you see the difference?
Maybe your sector check is 5000 as a senior captain (plus couple of thousands basic) , but cc with the Ryanair contract gets a basic of 800 (commission already included) , and a sector pay of 400. Dalmac, Crewlink etc contractors don't have basic salary, just sector pay.
So, if you think cc are well paid, then i send you my bank details, and you can transfer 500 euro every month into my account.
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Just saw an item on BBC1's local television news for the eastern counties which claimed that Ryanair is interested in buying STN. Now I know that MOL said this recently, but didn't he later retract the comment? Has the idea resurfaced or is the BBC simply rehashing old (but out of date) news? Anyone know?
Looot,
You state that on a Ryanair contract cabin crew get 800 basic plus sector pay of 400. To clarify:
(i) Is this euros?
(ii) Is this take home pay or gross?
(iii) How many hours a month work does this typically represent?
Thank you.
Jet22,
You can find answers to most of your questions on the Ryanair website and in threads on this website. It is, however, not possible to book next summer's flights just yet and it's anyone's guess what it'll cost by the time seats are released for sale.
Looot,
You state that on a Ryanair contract cabin crew get 800 basic plus sector pay of 400. To clarify:
(i) Is this euros?
(ii) Is this take home pay or gross?
(iii) How many hours a month work does this typically represent?
Thank you.
Jet22,
You can find answers to most of your questions on the Ryanair website and in threads on this website. It is, however, not possible to book next summer's flights just yet and it's anyone's guess what it'll cost by the time seats are released for sale.
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There was an article in at least one of todays paper in which MOL states that RYR have no intention of buying Stansted but they will work closely with whoever does.
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Shady
Find out who the camel with the hump is and fail his next checkride, he is certainly talking tripe on here and putting some good people off joining.
If he was on my flight deck I think he would be failed on CRM alone.
But I dont check or work for RYR.
Camel
You do talk so much twaddle that i wonder why you are in this job at all but its probably because your too much of a trouble maker to get a job elsewhere.
Remember that people choose RYR to work for and others to fly with, and I have never had a bad experience as a passenger with them, better in fact that some legacy carriers.
Find out who the camel with the hump is and fail his next checkride, he is certainly talking tripe on here and putting some good people off joining.
If he was on my flight deck I think he would be failed on CRM alone.
But I dont check or work for RYR.
Camel
You do talk so much twaddle that i wonder why you are in this job at all but its probably because your too much of a trouble maker to get a job elsewhere.
Remember that people choose RYR to work for and others to fly with, and I have never had a bad experience as a passenger with them, better in fact that some legacy carriers.
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Ryanair is known for using pretty shabby terminals on some airports. If you were asked to name FR's ugliest terminal, which would you vote for? I'd choose Tampere T2, unfortunately. However, yesterday's Aamulehti newspaper has informed (in Finnish) that Finavia Civil Aviation Administration has completed the enlargement plans there. The refurbishment would cost between one and two million euros and the surface area of the terminal would rise by 500 square metre.
According to the article, Finavia expects to get some commitment from the part of low-cost airlines for this terminal to be used sufficiently. It wants them at least to open a few new routes or, better, to place 1 or 2 planes and create a base there. They envisage some Central European destinations as potentially lucrative ones.
According to the article, Finavia expects to get some commitment from the part of low-cost airlines for this terminal to be used sufficiently. It wants them at least to open a few new routes or, better, to place 1 or 2 planes and create a base there. They envisage some Central European destinations as potentially lucrative ones.
Warsaw, Prague, Budapest on the favourites list... but BUD and WAW are rather Wizzair bases, not FR's prime destinations...
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CC pay
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pounds if you based in UK, euros if you based outside UK.
your sector checks are different every month, it depends of course how many hours you flown (normally around 50 sectors). In some bases cc have 3-4 stand-by's out of 5 days, and there are also other bases, where cc are really busy, with only 1-2 stand-by's a week. CC's with contractor contracts usually gets 12-14000 euros netto/year. Of course there are no benefits at all, just deductions (uniform, sick pay etc) This is very low. But senior cc's are not in a better position either.. 2 years probationary period is a non-sense! (first 12 months when you are joining the company, then another 12 when you getting the Ryanair contract) I know many CPT's and FO's do not have a clue about the cc's salary and conditions, so they think like Slim Shady that they earn a decent salary...
Some poor soul even started a website: UNION - HOME
pounds if you based in UK, euros if you based outside UK.
your sector checks are different every month, it depends of course how many hours you flown (normally around 50 sectors). In some bases cc have 3-4 stand-by's out of 5 days, and there are also other bases, where cc are really busy, with only 1-2 stand-by's a week. CC's with contractor contracts usually gets 12-14000 euros netto/year. Of course there are no benefits at all, just deductions (uniform, sick pay etc) This is very low. But senior cc's are not in a better position either.. 2 years probationary period is a non-sense! (first 12 months when you are joining the company, then another 12 when you getting the Ryanair contract) I know many CPT's and FO's do not have a clue about the cc's salary and conditions, so they think like Slim Shady that they earn a decent salary...
Some poor soul even started a website: UNION - HOME
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Night_fr8
Anyone doing anyone's check ride is only interested in their performance: their opinions are irrelevant unless they run counter to company SOP e.g suggesting to another crewmember that they would be OK to breach a regulation.
Whilst I don't agree with some of Camel Hair's opinion I am certain that he is a professional and most competent aviator.
looot
I know for a fact, as my partner is FR CC, that a #1 makes at least £800 basic and up to another £700 in sector pay and commission. That's £18000 net which is around £24K gross.
UK average earnings in the public sector stand at £452 per week gross as a median, the private sector is slightly lower: that's £23504 per year, pretty close to the £24K FR pay.
Anyone doing anyone's check ride is only interested in their performance: their opinions are irrelevant unless they run counter to company SOP e.g suggesting to another crewmember that they would be OK to breach a regulation.
Whilst I don't agree with some of Camel Hair's opinion I am certain that he is a professional and most competent aviator.
looot
I know for a fact, as my partner is FR CC, that a #1 makes at least £800 basic and up to another £700 in sector pay and commission. That's £18000 net which is around £24K gross.
UK average earnings in the public sector stand at £452 per week gross as a median, the private sector is slightly lower: that's £23504 per year, pretty close to the £24K FR pay.
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Slim Shady,
1500 pounds for a cabin supervisor is far away from "well paid", as you stated earlier. I know many juniors who got 800 euros netto a month. Especially in the spanish bases... In Italy is the situation very similar. UK and IRE are maybe better because of the route network and LF....
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The cost of living index shows that, based on New York, London is 25% more expensive, whereas Barcelona is 5% cheaper.
If you want to earn more money and spend it faster, come to STN.
The cost of living index shows that, based on New York, London is 25% more expensive, whereas Barcelona is 5% cheaper.
If you want to earn more money and spend it faster, come to STN.
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LoootI feel sorry for your low take home, I guess you are quite new to FR and flying?6 years ago FR CC's were well paid and had full-time jobs, which for CC jobs are very rare outside of Flag Carriers.back then No1's were pulling in 2k in Euros. But as you know with FR, they make life "difficult" for crew and they leave. Therefore they come to Eastern Europe with the recruitment roadshow and sell the "Ryanair Dream". The Eastern European newbies love the low salaries and the chance to work in a "Leading Airline".Of course it's all nonsense and they leave because the majority have excellent educations. Then the next batch (probably u) come on even worse money. Sorry m8, but on these boards u won;t get alot of sympathy.
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F14,
i never complain about my salary, for me it's o.k. I'm cc because i like the job. And after almost 5000 duty hours with Ryanair i still love it. I'm not depending on this salary because of my family background. I just wanted to write to Slim Shady some actual numbers about the cc salary, because he said, we are well paid... Comparing this numbers to another similar size/revenue LCC, this salary is low (and no benefits in the 1st year). Of course this still attracts lot of wannabe cc from Eastern European countries, but because there is no recruitment/selection process, everybody can be a cc. Ppl with very questionable level of English combined with zero customer service are also welcome. And this is not good at all. The turnover is very high, and they grooming is sh*t. (to prevent future flame, i'm also from Eastern Europe)