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The actual truth re the TCX/MYT contract for next summer at BHX is that the airline is only now starting to put the contract out to tender to ALL handling agents at BHX.
I know for a fact from the regional manager for TCX that they do not want to switch agents at BHX and as they are the major force in this merger then they will probably hold sway but it is all down to price but as to the fact they have already signed with Swissport that's rubbish as no contracts have been even negotiated yet.
And as to the fact they wanted to switch when FLYbe moved, again just a load of jackanory as this has not been the case at all. All airlines routinely tender for their contracts at renewal time to get the best deal and this was the case in this instance.
I know for a fact from the regional manager for TCX that they do not want to switch agents at BHX and as they are the major force in this merger then they will probably hold sway but it is all down to price but as to the fact they have already signed with Swissport that's rubbish as no contracts have been even negotiated yet.
And as to the fact they wanted to switch when FLYbe moved, again just a load of jackanory as this has not been the case at all. All airlines routinely tender for their contracts at renewal time to get the best deal and this was the case in this instance.
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In light of the fact that there seems to be no good news at all for BHX regarding schedules etc for Summer 08 (just read about LH FRA-BRS from March, is there no stopping the rise and rise of BRS?) how about this for a piece of news. OK so it was reported in 'The Week' this week(Muscat's equivalent to The Metro so must be true) but here goes, it says that -
"Saf Air is a new Kabul based airline with a single leased Boeing 767 and is planning to operate scheduled flights from Kabul to Muscat, Dubai, Kiev, Dusseldorf and Birmingham UK from March 2008"
I kid you not. Makes up for losing Tashkent, Tehran, Lahore I suppose and makes for an interesting change from EK when I come back to BHX next summer! Also there are local rumours that Air Arabia (a Sharjah based loco) is looking to fly to Europe, amongst others BHX has also been mentioned as of interest for them.........but they haven't even decided on what aircraft type to order for long haul flights yet so wouldn't hold your breath on that one
Pity that the only new route news I can find are both pieces of pretty much wild speculation but hey thats life I guess at the UK's fastest shrinking airport
"Saf Air is a new Kabul based airline with a single leased Boeing 767 and is planning to operate scheduled flights from Kabul to Muscat, Dubai, Kiev, Dusseldorf and Birmingham UK from March 2008"
I kid you not. Makes up for losing Tashkent, Tehran, Lahore I suppose and makes for an interesting change from EK when I come back to BHX next summer! Also there are local rumours that Air Arabia (a Sharjah based loco) is looking to fly to Europe, amongst others BHX has also been mentioned as of interest for them.........but they haven't even decided on what aircraft type to order for long haul flights yet so wouldn't hold your breath on that one
Pity that the only new route news I can find are both pieces of pretty much wild speculation but hey thats life I guess at the UK's fastest shrinking airport
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I must admit it comes to something when the only BHX development news if who is doing the ground handling.
It would not be so bad if it was every airport but...................hey I am sure something will turn up. Its all in the grand master plan.
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It would not be so bad if it was every airport but...................hey I am sure something will turn up. Its all in the grand master plan.
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Handling agent staff discussing handling agent business. Nothing wrong with that. It's very informative....The reason other development news is not being discussed is because all are waiting for the plans to be formally presented to the authorities.
Re-Surfacing of Delta and Whiskey taxiways are the next works to go ahead starting later this month.....Not before time....discuss...
Re-Surfacing of Delta and Whiskey taxiways are the next works to go ahead starting later this month.....Not before time....discuss...
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Nothing wrong with discussing ground handling, but it would be nice to have the discusion concerning who is going to handle new carriers/business.
As regards to care and maintainance to existing facilities ?
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As regards to care and maintainance to existing facilities ?
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Possibiltys for bhx
A wish list if you like follows but some I see
as distinct possibilitys
Norweigan expansion with WAW staying and expansion into norway.
Baby announcing more based units and expansion to italy and eastern
european cities such as KRK and WAW.
Another carrier crossing the atlantic. Quite frankly who does not
matter but to have only one service is ridiculous.
One which will get shot down but someone doing cologne with a 100
seater a/c that suits the route. Simply a 73G is to big..
Easyjet to serve bhx from its out stations i.e CDG MXP BER and MAD
and also have a least 3 based units.
Another carrier doing the middle east, someone must be looking at EK
printing money at bhx and wanting a slice of the pie.
These are a few and I still beleive we should have faith or though I
do beleive the candle is defintely flickering and in danger of going
out altogether. That song comes to mind ' always look on the bright
side of life'.
Barry bhx
as distinct possibilitys
Norweigan expansion with WAW staying and expansion into norway.
Baby announcing more based units and expansion to italy and eastern
european cities such as KRK and WAW.
Another carrier crossing the atlantic. Quite frankly who does not
matter but to have only one service is ridiculous.
One which will get shot down but someone doing cologne with a 100
seater a/c that suits the route. Simply a 73G is to big..
Easyjet to serve bhx from its out stations i.e CDG MXP BER and MAD
and also have a least 3 based units.
Another carrier doing the middle east, someone must be looking at EK
printing money at bhx and wanting a slice of the pie.
These are a few and I still beleive we should have faith or though I
do beleive the candle is defintely flickering and in danger of going
out altogether. That song comes to mind ' always look on the bright
side of life'.
Barry bhx
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Handling agent staff discussing handling agent business. Nothing wrong with that. It's very informative
Talking of songs apt for BHX, The Smiths penned a classic in the 80's 'There is a light that never goes out...' BHX is seriously flickering, I hope it will burn bright again (although not methinks with an Orange flame.........
) before others really do outshine.
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Another carrier crossing the atlantic. Quite frankly who does not
matter but to have only one service is ridiculous
matter but to have only one service is ridiculous
Another carrier doing the middle east, someone must be looking at EK
printing money at bhx and wanting a slice of the pie
printing money at bhx and wanting a slice of the pie
I do think the City of Birmingham needs to raise its profile on the World stage in order to attract more people & new services although in the UK, we do seem to be very London orientated
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As someone who was involved in those things at the time I can confirm that TCX did want to move to Swissport. The reason being that they had just watched MYT change from a joke at the bottom the the punctuality tables to top (don't believe me just check out the CAA stats). If MYT had moved earlier then Lite would probably be still operating today, but that's another story. Even now it is frowned upon to depart on time, early out early back!
As for changing handling, in the modern world everything comes down to scale. Swissport has the ability to offer worldwide handling which Aviance can't, last time I looked Swissport could offer handling at 75% or more of the TCX network but I haven't checked recently. It seems to be more common for airlines to go for this kind of deal now than at anytime previously (Air Malta being a good example). When power like that is thrown into the ring the fact that you have won awards counts for very little. At the end of the day the deal will go to whoever offers the best overall deal.
As someone who was involved in those things at the time I can confirm that TCX did want to move to Swissport. The reason being that they had just watched MYT change from a joke at the bottom the the punctuality tables to top (don't believe me just check out the CAA stats). If MYT had moved earlier then Lite would probably be still operating today, but that's another story. Even now it is frowned upon to depart on time, early out early back!
As for changing handling, in the modern world everything comes down to scale. Swissport has the ability to offer worldwide handling which Aviance can't, last time I looked Swissport could offer handling at 75% or more of the TCX network but I haven't checked recently. It seems to be more common for airlines to go for this kind of deal now than at anytime previously (Air Malta being a good example). When power like that is thrown into the ring the fact that you have won awards counts for very little. At the end of the day the deal will go to whoever offers the best overall deal.
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I'm sure that swissport offer great handling at other places with early in and out and all that good stuff. But i'm sure other things will be considered such as loading the wrong bags in the wrong a/c and not realising till both a/c arrived at destination.
But at the end of the day no one can 'claim' TCX as their own till the ink is dry on the contracts, and i'm pretty sure the people on the ground will be the last to know.
But at the end of the day no one can 'claim' TCX as their own till the ink is dry on the contracts, and i'm pretty sure the people on the ground will be the last to know.
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Talking of songs apt for BHX, The Smiths penned a classic in the 80's 'There is a light that never goes out...' BHX is seriously flickering, I hope it will burn bright again (although not methinks with an Orange flame.........) before others really do outshine.
) before others really do outshine.
By the way I think you will find the your favorite BRS has limitations and its traffic growth will reach end game before BHX...
Maybe a more appropriate song would be........Take That's 'Shine'..........
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two across the atlantic you say
Well if the latest to be heard is true goodbye Air Indias service to YYZ as rumours are that it will be dropped come january and the LR'S they have will operate it direct and bhx will just have a DEL ATQ flight. Oh well that candle is all but diminished.
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The YYZ carries few pax BHX to YYZ, I think it is around 50 or so.
A direct service may be better as the loads to India would not be restricted by the transit traffic.
The worse senario would be none at all.
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A direct service may be better as the loads to India would not be restricted by the transit traffic.
The worse senario would be none at all.
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Wishful thinking?
Taken from the BHX Press Release announcing the FR Shannon flight:
Pity you didn't work more closely a few years ago!!! 
Or is there an announcemment in the offing.............whoops sorry didn't see the word hope in there!!!!
Peter Vella, Birmingham Airport's Business Development Director, said: "It is great news for Birmingham to have a Shannon service operating again and we are glad that Ryanair have picked up this popular destination. We hope to work closely with Ryanair to develop even more routes from the Midlands."
Or is there an announcemment in the offing.............whoops sorry didn't see the word hope in there!!!!
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Awful timings and not the greatest of days but this purely down to
fleet availability.
Absolutely amazing, talk about using every last inch, second spare to get the most out of your fleet.
The drought is over!
Pete
fleet availability.
Absolutely amazing, talk about using every last inch, second spare to get the most out of your fleet.
The drought is over!
Pete
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Pity you didn't work more closely a few years ago!!!