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Old 21st Sep 2007, 23:41
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The 737 grounded the other day was due to a bird strike however they have canx the first flight on a Sat for the fourth week running today which isn't good!

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It would appear that since its reformation Brussels airlines seems to cancel flights and add flight loads together and cancel flights. Perhaps the 734 and 733 aircraft they use to BHX are too big and the AR1 and AR8 are more suited to the 6x daily schedule. Its not good for a mainly "business" carrier to cancel flights although they do have a monopoly at BHX so whats the alternative?
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When the winter 2007/8 schedules were first loaded they were showing all
six flights as RJ85's, which seemed to make sense.

However I think a 733 has now appeared on one of the evening flights and
I think there might be some RJ100's as well.

I noticed a 319 turned up last night.

In days gone by the 18.00 inbound always needed to be more than a 85 seater but I am insure if this is still the case with 6 a day.

There are also slight time changes in the winter and it looks like a more balanced set of timings. The September figures will be interesting as August was only just over half the May or June figure but it was only running at 3 a day.

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BHX Master Plan

Not been here for a while, but was talking to one of my friends, a 'creative type' who reckons he's in the know Possibly some press announcement this week as a pre-amble to the launch of the adopted Master Plan. Looks like BHX is concentrating on the runway extension, and virtually dropping the idea of a second wide spaced short runway. Also in the pipeline is a Terminal 3 by 2018 and for some reason the Elmdon old terminal's days look numbered
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Old 23rd Sep 2007, 20:42
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Isn't the old terminal a listed building? If it is they would have to come up with some good reasons to knock it down to get past the planning authorities. And why would it need to come down if they are extending the current runway and building a new terminal where long stay 1 and the staff carpark are?
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Something to note the short runway is finally being consigned to the bin and becoming taxiways. This is happening in the next few weeks.
Winter works on Taxiway re-surfacing. Badly needed.
I won't spoil the Master plan announcements but it is looking pretty good...
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From what I can remember, the old art-deco terminal and tower is grade 1 listed, heck of a fuss to pull that lot down! The later add-ons (if you can remember when they went up) such as customs & immigration, animal reception, crew rooms and the old spotting room and cafe etc., ain't . Mind you, I reckon that you couldn't bulldoze them without the terminal falling over.
As an aside, I hobbled through old Elmdon a few years ago now, after the move, on a revisit to recapture the good old days , and the place was like a time warp. Apart from a few "portacabins" housing various enterprises, all the old check-ins, shop, bank etc were still in situe, very spooky. Is it still the same in there?
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I'm afraid the interior had a complete refurbishment some years ago. Full of offices and meeting rooms etc. now. Though, if you worked there you can still stand and notice little things that bring back memories of the good old days....
The only other building like it is at Templehof, Berlin, I believe.
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US airways

Apparently again looking at bhx with 752 bhx-phl according to rumours on airliners.net. Anyone know anymore as sources seem to be us based and not from the uk ie hearing any rumours around the airport. Sounds promising if true.




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US Airways

There was a post on a.net a few hours ago claiming no 2008 International
expansion from PHL due to an unresolved problem with International gates.

It says BHX planned for 2009 along with Beijing, Moscow and Tel Aviv.

This is third year out of the last four that we have been lead to believe
that US Airways have been evaluating PHL-BHX, it is almost getting boring.

They have the 75W's and subject to one of them being released for Int work you would think that they will get on with it or forget it for ever.

The other part of the post "it is too late for summer 2008 expansion" was virtually the same excuse used for 2007 and they still added 3 routes.

I do understand that there are a finite number of International gates
available to US Air at PHL but it is hardly a new problem.

I am keeping the faith that BHX will get at least one more transatlantic in 2008.

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Thanks Call100

Ta Call100 for that, only ever went through EGBB on a prof basis back then, very rarely as SLF, but must say that EGBB was one of the friendliest places that I've ever transited, more akin to a family run operation than a place of work. Loved the place, and as mostly SLF nowadays, still do, compared to the nearest competition.
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No problem. We didn't need ID cards then. Everyone new everyone...It was like a family. Many still work at the new airport. Those days are often fondly talked about....We still try to be as friendly a possible to those we work with and serve.....
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BMI Baby winter 2007/8 schedule changes

Gone has the night-stopping Edinburgh aircraft and it stays at three a day rather than the five that should be operating now (one advert remover required on the A45 just outside the Clock).

Glasgow also not going to four a day and Barcelona on Wednesday has
gone. Rome, Malaga, Faro and Lisbon have time changes to name but
a few.

I thought at first it was to remove another aircraft but the revised
schedule still requires 7 but some days the one aircraft does only one flight unless a route is for the chop or there will be some more destinations added this winter.

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Old 26th Sep 2007, 11:58
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BHX Draft master plan.....

Master plan here..

Interim Statement & plan


Takes some trawling through.....Plans are about three quarters down......Interim statement gives quick view. Saves a bit of a trawl.
Nothing I can see changed from the plans we have had up for the last few months......

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Well that's a first.....No one wishing to comment on the 'Master Plan'?
If (and it's a big if), it all goes ahead then its a massive step in the right direction. Dropping the second runway made sense. It was only going to be used for regional stuff anyway.
The Ground engine run facility is a desperate need. Saves blocking taxiways as the present system does.
Hopefully the new tower will be something Iconic and instantly recognisable.
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Sadly the new tower isn't going to be anything iconic, or even architecturally exciting, just a bog standard tower.
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As far as I know the designs are not even in yet........
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BHX Masterplan

Well that's a first.....No one wishing to comment on the 'Master Plan'?
Thats probably because most of it will never happen........... Sorry to be cynical - seriously will be just what the airport needs, I just hope there is enough demand for long haul flights that the runway extension is being designed to attract (and not just for while the Olympics are on)
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So what's not going to happen then? A few bits may go by the way but I believe the majority will be completed. We are talking a period of 22 years for the main master plan completion, so of course some will change. The short term plan will definitely complete.
The runway extension will bring permanent benefits and route expansion well beyond the Olympics. That is one of the target dates as the US and Chinese teams are basing in Birmingham. Great opportunity for some free worldwide publicity.
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Ryanair summer 2008/Expanasion

Seems to be released and it is similar to winter 2007/8 except an extra
Monday flight. However it is an extra flight a day compared to Summer
2007 and Shannon remains 6 a week but again an increase on this summer.

As for the first part of expansion (Pier, tower & runway) it all looks pretty good and as call100 says why should it not go-ahead unless there is/are any unforeseen disasters around the corner.

The relief from the locals about the second runway not going ahead
seems to have subsided and they are about to focus on the 400m
extension .

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