DURHAM TEES VALLEY AIRPORT - 4
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Pathetic attempt at a dig Ginga?
Anyway point of my post is to point out yet another GSM delay...what is causing the one tonight? Outbound is listed as:
GSM061 Alicante 17:20 23:00 Estimated 23:00
And return:
GSM062 Alicante 00:10 04:45 Estimated 04:45
Not good for PR!
Anyway point of my post is to point out yet another GSM delay...what is causing the one tonight? Outbound is listed as:
GSM061 Alicante 17:20 23:00 Estimated 23:00
And return:
GSM062 Alicante 00:10 04:45 Estimated 04:45
Not good for PR!
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What a suprise, it's gone tech again! After arriving almost 6.5 hours late this morning from AGP it still would have had plenty of time to make the 0930 ALC flight, but is still on the ground with the passengers waiting for a replacement a/c from EDI to come in...when will this madness end?
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They pinched it yesterday morning to do a Nice flight from EDI (hence a GLA 738 positioning to EDI then coming down here on a combined EDI-MME-ACE-MME-EDI) however upon arrival in EDI it went tech, finally left there over 5hrs late and subsequently ran late all day, meaning our 1830 ALC flight left around midnight, once it had positioned back from EDI.
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What is the problem with Globespan aircraft. They all look quite modern from the outside. I have flown in two real clunkers recently from Air Europa which was falling to pieces on the inside and a Finnair plane on charter to My Travel which was also very worn and both performed perfectly in the mechanical stakes. ( Why is it that Finnish appears to consist of 20 letter words apparently with letters in no recognisable order. I found this out on a 4 1/2 hour flight with no entertainment system working only a graphic showing our global position in Finnish showing on the screens ) Is it poor maintenance, bad driving by the pilots or just bad luck? Whatever it is it reflects poorly on their performance and certainly deters me from travelling with them which cuts down on the choice of MME as a departure airport.
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It looks like bmi are in talks to purchase Flyglobespan, meaning if it goes ahead we'll probably fall back into the hands of bmibaby, and since it was the current MD of bmibaby who decided to pull-out of MME last time around, chances are, he'll do the same again, unless:
1) Our management can sweet-talk WW into staying (VERY unlikely)
2) Flyglobespan have made a reasonably good profit at MME (strongest possibility of the 3, but unfortunately, still unlikely)
3) bmibaby regretted pulling out (unlikely)
Personally, I'd love to get WW back - it would mean a return of the likes or Cork/Newquay/Paris - routes which we've failed to replace since they left that we badly need, but I ain't holding my breath. If this is true, our only hope will lie with Ryanair.
Regards.
1) Our management can sweet-talk WW into staying (VERY unlikely)
2) Flyglobespan have made a reasonably good profit at MME (strongest possibility of the 3, but unfortunately, still unlikely)
3) bmibaby regretted pulling out (unlikely)
Personally, I'd love to get WW back - it would mean a return of the likes or Cork/Newquay/Paris - routes which we've failed to replace since they left that we badly need, but I ain't holding my breath. If this is true, our only hope will lie with Ryanair.
Regards.
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In answer to Paarmo's concerns:
Sadly it boils down to two main issues. One is the aircraft based there is not the best in terms of work needed on it. However it isn't the worst by any means and there are many many more out there who have much more problems. The second and by far the most significant is that MME only has one jet (of GSPN) based there. If that goes wrong then of course the operation is compromised. There is time taken waiting for another Jet to come from Scotland, and obviously all this takes time.
Now of course a customer is entitled to think; 'Not my problem mate, I'll go elsewhere.....' and of course who can blame them? Before you know it you have a vicious circle, in that a company will only expand if it achieves more business and a customer will only give more business if one becomes more reliable blah blah blah..
As previously mentioned this BMI thing looks like it might make things interesting. Frankly I can't see this happening but often we have all been proved wrong.
Sadly it boils down to two main issues. One is the aircraft based there is not the best in terms of work needed on it. However it isn't the worst by any means and there are many many more out there who have much more problems. The second and by far the most significant is that MME only has one jet (of GSPN) based there. If that goes wrong then of course the operation is compromised. There is time taken waiting for another Jet to come from Scotland, and obviously all this takes time.
Now of course a customer is entitled to think; 'Not my problem mate, I'll go elsewhere.....' and of course who can blame them? Before you know it you have a vicious circle, in that a company will only expand if it achieves more business and a customer will only give more business if one becomes more reliable blah blah blah..
As previously mentioned this BMI thing looks like it might make things interesting. Frankly I can't see this happening but often we have all been proved wrong.
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The airport is rumoured to be in discussions with Jet2 but I really cannot see them coming here, not when we're sandwiched between their two existing bases. However, the fact that they want to be the primary LCC of the north helps, as does the rumour that their NCL base is unprofitable. I think all we can hope for is a single route like the original TFS route with GSM.
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Good news the FR Alicante flight this morning looked to be doing very well, i saw atleast 120ish pax in the checkin line at 7:20am when i dropped my auntie off.
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BMI/Globespan
There is nothing in the financial press about any tie up between the above and they always like an airline story.
Meanwhile Globespan are advertising heavily on ITV Northeast with MME being the focus of the advert. It is a pretty dire advert but it does show that they are trying and also advertising MME at the same time.
Meanwhile Globespan are advertising heavily on ITV Northeast with MME being the focus of the advert. It is a pretty dire advert but it does show that they are trying and also advertising MME at the same time.
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Seems DTVA's attitude to Private Aircraft is going the same way as Newcastle.
After increasing the landing fees by 30% last year they are again increasing the fees a further 4.5%.
By purchasing a landing card at around £1200/year, it allowed aircraft to land without further charge. They have now decided to restrict this to 50 landings a year. Any landings after the 50 will be invoiced as extras this adding approx a further 10% increase to GA landing fees bringing the increase to 45% in two years.
If private aircraft start moving away due to the increased charges what are air traffic going to do as there isn't enough commercial traffic to keep them awake.
I think you'll see movements at EGNV decrease rapidly if GA move away!!!
After increasing the landing fees by 30% last year they are again increasing the fees a further 4.5%.
By purchasing a landing card at around £1200/year, it allowed aircraft to land without further charge. They have now decided to restrict this to 50 landings a year. Any landings after the 50 will be invoiced as extras this adding approx a further 10% increase to GA landing fees bringing the increase to 45% in two years.
If private aircraft start moving away due to the increased charges what are air traffic going to do as there isn't enough commercial traffic to keep them awake.
I think you'll see movements at EGNV decrease rapidly if GA move away!!!
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Think of it as vehicle excise licence or fuel tax or booze tax or any of the other taxes which this Government have increased recently and stop trying to bamboozle ordinary readers of this particular column by using EGNV instead of the user friendly MME or DTV or Teesside airport. If you can afford to run an aeroplane you can afford to pay the increase. If not then move to an airstrip.
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If you are going to get picky.......by international law to which virtually all countries in the world apart from pariah states like North Korea have signed up to, all landings at all airstrips and airport are free. The charges start when you park your aircraft and try to take off afterwards.
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DTV passenger figures
Hi anyone got up to date pax figures and movements for the year so far?
I suppose movement figures will drop dramatically if/when the new charges come in?
Although these probably dont contribute much if anything to the airports revenue,they do at least make the place seem semi busy!!
Another forum i was on shows the movements per day.excellent site,but cant beleiveh how quiet and underused the airport is now!
I know its been said before but just how much profit is it making for the shareholders/councils?
How long before they try and balance the books!!!!
I suppose movement figures will drop dramatically if/when the new charges come in?
Although these probably dont contribute much if anything to the airports revenue,they do at least make the place seem semi busy!!
Another forum i was on shows the movements per day.excellent site,but cant beleiveh how quiet and underused the airport is now!
I know its been said before but just how much profit is it making for the shareholders/councils?
How long before they try and balance the books!!!!
Paarmo - what a rant! Last time a looked DTVE/EGNV/MME was owned by a private company and was not an instrument of government, so don't see the comparison to taxes. They should be looking to maximise profit and not achieve any wider social or economic objectives (such as being nasty to rich people?) - if the market can bare the increases then fine, but if they are detering users who would otherwise be contributing to costs of running the place, seems like a bad move (the arguement put forward at Newcastle was that GA was getting in the way of their airline customers - doubt whether that is the case at MME).
Oh, and I would imagine that anybody who knows that the IATA code for the airport formerly known as Teesside is MME is also sufficiently clued up to know that the ICAO code is EGNV.
Oh, and I would imagine that anybody who knows that the IATA code for the airport formerly known as Teesside is MME is also sufficiently clued up to know that the ICAO code is EGNV.
