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I reckon 3hrs will be well on the low side Cork-Limerick Junction-Limerick-Athenry-Galway, given that the fastest timetabled trip Cork-Ennis is 2h15 and most trips top 3hr as it is.
I reckon 3hrs will be well on the low side Cork-Limerick Junction-Limerick-Athenry-Galway, given that the fastest timetabled trip Cork-Ennis is 2h15 and most trips top 3hr as it is.
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To get away from trains for a moment nice and all as they can sometimes be.
Cork had two interesting visitors today in the shape of a Thomson Boeing 767-200 and the Canadian registered First Choice 757-200. They were in as replacements for some Futura flights. What a shame about Futura - they have been a great presence at Cork Airport for so many years. Real old workhorses plying their trade to and from the Iberian sun to Cork.
It seemed to be like deja vous for about ten minutes up at Cork yesterday afternoon. Two US bizjets landed within a few minutes of each other, a very smart looking Global Express and a Challenger. In another 10 minutes both aircraft were gone again but guess where to but to Cork's remote parking area at where else but snn!
Dont know for sure if the corporate aircraft operators in question had sought parking at Cork or not but it sure does raise the eyebrow when you see a return to this kind of activity. Thought there was some kind of revised policy of being more welcoming to corporate aircraft visitors to Cork as afterall it is very, very easy money to allow something as big as a Global Express to park overnight for a day or two?
Maybe it was just a glitch and that all Cork's other stands were jammers all day and all night!
I am now beginning to hear the first moans and whinges from friends and acquaintances about the dropping of the Prague flight from the end of October with questions like 'What are going to do now?'
Cork should really go after CSA again. Two a week would do fine. I am sure some Cork people could land some jobs in the Czech Republic now that our own enconomy is so much weaker now than for many, many years. A lesson there for us all?
Cork had two interesting visitors today in the shape of a Thomson Boeing 767-200 and the Canadian registered First Choice 757-200. They were in as replacements for some Futura flights. What a shame about Futura - they have been a great presence at Cork Airport for so many years. Real old workhorses plying their trade to and from the Iberian sun to Cork.
It seemed to be like deja vous for about ten minutes up at Cork yesterday afternoon. Two US bizjets landed within a few minutes of each other, a very smart looking Global Express and a Challenger. In another 10 minutes both aircraft were gone again but guess where to but to Cork's remote parking area at where else but snn!
Dont know for sure if the corporate aircraft operators in question had sought parking at Cork or not but it sure does raise the eyebrow when you see a return to this kind of activity. Thought there was some kind of revised policy of being more welcoming to corporate aircraft visitors to Cork as afterall it is very, very easy money to allow something as big as a Global Express to park overnight for a day or two?
Maybe it was just a glitch and that all Cork's other stands were jammers all day and all night!
I am now beginning to hear the first moans and whinges from friends and acquaintances about the dropping of the Prague flight from the end of October with questions like 'What are going to do now?'
Cork should really go after CSA again. Two a week would do fine. I am sure some Cork people could land some jobs in the Czech Republic now that our own enconomy is so much weaker now than for many, many years. A lesson there for us all?
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Routes from airports with relatively small catchment areas depend on repeat business if they are to be sustained long term.
Since 2003 almost everyone in Cork who wanted to visit Prague has done so at least once . It's no longer the cheap city it was five years ago.
CSA did operate for almost 4 years but balked at going head to head with Aerlingus given that they already had indirect competition from WIZZ, Malev and Centralwings.
It might be worth asking them to come back but they recently reduced PRG DUB from 2 to 1 per day so it doesn't look as if they're in an expansionist mood at the moment.
Of course it is considered an established route so it won't qualify for incentives untill November 2009.
Since 2003 almost everyone in Cork who wanted to visit Prague has done so at least once . It's no longer the cheap city it was five years ago.
CSA did operate for almost 4 years but balked at going head to head with Aerlingus given that they already had indirect competition from WIZZ, Malev and Centralwings.
It might be worth asking them to come back but they recently reduced PRG DUB from 2 to 1 per day so it doesn't look as if they're in an expansionist mood at the moment.
Of course it is considered an established route so it won't qualify for incentives untill November 2009.
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Don't forget on Dub - Prg, you now have FR also. So I suspect that removed the loads/yield for CSA's 2nd flight.
As this issue is not for Cork. So maybe Ork - Prg could be reviewed.
Regards,
Shamrogue
As this issue is not for Cork. So maybe Ork - Prg could be reviewed.
Regards,
Shamrogue
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XL Airways have gone into administration. A pity to see them go. I think they were the only airline to operate a brand new charter destination from Cork this past summer. I wonder what will happen to the last few Cork-Santorini flights of the season? Will another airline replace them similiar to what has happened with Futura?
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Yeah, terrible shame. Best of luck to all their staff who are now jobless.
I flew with them to Santorini this summer. It was fantastic having a direct flight from Cork to the wonderful Greek islands. The flight was choc-a-bloc too. Hopefully something will replace it.
I flew with them to Santorini this summer. It was fantastic having a direct flight from Cork to the wonderful Greek islands. The flight was choc-a-bloc too. Hopefully something will replace it.
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Wizzair Cork-Poznan
Thats brilliant news. This will be Wizzair's fourth route from Cork. This service will be the only service to Poznan from anywhere on the island of Ireland besides Dublin so hopefully it should do well. The CAA really seem to have developed a good relationship with Wizz. Yes, lets hope Cork-Budapest is next!
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Great, great new about Wizz Air starting Poznan Cork in December just in time for the Christmas holidays. I wonder will the tails be turned soon with perhaps some Irish workers seeking employment in Poland or even in the Budapest area? For example, there are all ready quite a number of young Irish college students studying medicine in the universities in the Budapest area. The entry qualifications to the Hungarian universities are not quite as massive as they are here in Ireland so it is becoming quite an attractive prospect for some would be doctors to travel abroad for their medical studies. It has now been said to me a number of times by interested parties on what are the chances of a Budapest Cork flight being restored so let us hope for the very best for Wizz Air to do the business once again for Cork and some of her would be young doctors!
She Who Must be Obeyed and I took a flight from Dublin to Cork yesterday afternoon. We travelled down on the FR9847 at 1820 hours. The route must drive Ryanair nuts in some ways. The arriving pax at Dublin on the FR9846 numbered just 61 but on the way down to Cork there was no less than 177 passengers which is quite a performance but what a difference to 61 on the way up! We had arrived at Dublin on another Ryanair flight from the sun earlier in the day. That flight was almost full and most passengers were buying plenty of food and drink, more so than I have ever noticed before, so the ancillary income sure polished off what must have all ready been quite a profitable flight so Ryanair are sure doing an awful amount right!
She Who Must be Obeyed and I took a flight from Dublin to Cork yesterday afternoon. We travelled down on the FR9847 at 1820 hours. The route must drive Ryanair nuts in some ways. The arriving pax at Dublin on the FR9846 numbered just 61 but on the way down to Cork there was no less than 177 passengers which is quite a performance but what a difference to 61 on the way up! We had arrived at Dublin on another Ryanair flight from the sun earlier in the day. That flight was almost full and most passengers were buying plenty of food and drink, more so than I have ever noticed before, so the ancillary income sure polished off what must have all ready been quite a profitable flight so Ryanair are sure doing an awful amount right!
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Malev used ORK BUD to feed their hub and also to cater for City Breakers.
Wizzair or Aerlingus would be a point to point service and would be even less viable than the Malev service particularly as the novelty of heading off to Central Europe for a weekend break or a Stag Party seems to wearing off.
In hindsight Sky Europe's low cost service to Bratislavia may have hastened the departure of Malev given that Budapest is only two hours by rail from the Slovak Capital.
Now they too are bowing from both Cork and Dublin.
There is also evidence that Cork people got used to the extremely low fares from the 2004--2006 era and now consider anything over €150 to be too expensive. Yield managers won't be happy if this attitude prevails.
Wizzair or Aerlingus would be a point to point service and would be even less viable than the Malev service particularly as the novelty of heading off to Central Europe for a weekend break or a Stag Party seems to wearing off.
In hindsight Sky Europe's low cost service to Bratislavia may have hastened the departure of Malev given that Budapest is only two hours by rail from the Slovak Capital.
Now they too are bowing from both Cork and Dublin.
There is also evidence that Cork people got used to the extremely low fares from the 2004--2006 era and now consider anything over €150 to be too expensive. Yield managers won't be happy if this attitude prevails.
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Ork Ema
There is plenty of capactity into the English Midlands from Cork, Even during the Summer EI and WW loads were hovering around 50%. If Ryanair had stayed on EMA there was always the danger of one of these carriers withdrawing from BHX.
I know EMA serves a slightly different catchment area but I can't see a replacement emerging for FR unless WW move over from BHX.
I know EMA serves a slightly different catchment area but I can't see a replacement emerging for FR unless WW move over from BHX.