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Old 27th Oct 2010, 22:36
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Vienna or Zurich could be the dark horses for the EI service.
Vienna, Zurich, Prague, Budapest.
I think if EI magic up any spare capacity they'll be focussing on reintroducing Barcelona, Berlin, Cardiff etc. We'll be a long time waiting on EI for any real new routes at Cork
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Old 27th Oct 2010, 22:52
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Barcelona already factored in for next Summer. There is a 320 still free on Wednesday and Sunday afternoons which us what's giving rise to the speculation. I wonder what is the basis for saying that Warsaw will return next Summer. My understanding was that Wizz withdrew it over charges at the Polish airport. All of their other Polish routes are operated on a year round basis, so it's hard to see them operating Warsaw on a seasonal basis.

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Old 28th Oct 2010, 12:42
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Its not as they're reducing the base there from 3 A/C to 2 A/C this winter - the 3rd will be returned in Mar 2011 - Thus why Kevin was on the radio saying he got confirmation for RE & W6 that Cardiff, Jersey & Warsaw would be returning.
 
Old 28th Oct 2010, 19:10
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ORK-EDI

Is there any information about ORK-EDI for summer 2011? It's not bookable at all for summer 2011 at the moment. I'd have thought EDI would be pretty definite.
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Old 28th Oct 2010, 20:33
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None of the Aer Arann routes bookable yet for Summer 2011. Cork still in line for at least one new carrier next year.
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Old 30th Oct 2010, 12:31
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I threw my hands up when I read this beauty

Can anyone spot the poorly researched mistake ?

here

"Elderly people and those with special needs are not getting the service they require, or deserve, when they fly in or out of Cork Airport, according to Cork Fine Gael TD, Deirdre Clune. “Airlines using Cork airport are refusing to use the air bridges available because they can’t achieve the required turnaround time. This is not acceptable. Cork airport is a new state of the art facility and customers of all abilities deserve better,” said Deputy Clune."

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"Deputy Clune said: “I intend to write to Aer Lingus and Ryanair on this matter asking them to, at least, consider using these bridges for the last flight in at night. I also think that their customers should let them know what they think of this situation.”

We are so badly represented by Cork politicians.
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Old 30th Oct 2010, 12:38
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Not just Cork politicians- its a nationwide problem. They know very little generally about aviation or the genuine reasons for things (like airbridges)...saw one particular article recently which quoted some politician saying Air India have been maintaining service at Dublin for several years!!
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Old 30th Oct 2010, 13:28
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Guys the airbridges wont be in use until the DAA gives the go-ahead for it to be re-paired. Since the Birmingham incident it was damaged and no longer used. EI used it all the time when it was available, so did Onur, AirVIA, Spanair (loads of charters) & bmibaby at one stage. Only when this is all brought into the focus of national tv users (rte news bulletin) will it be rectified and maybe we will finnaly see it in use again. As for Ryanair using it - it would involve €0.00 charges for operating it. Anyway FR only use airbridges at LGW, AGP & FAO.
 
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it would involve €0.00 charges for operating it. Anyway FR only use airbridges at LGW, AGP & FAO.
FR haven't a choose when it comes to using airbridges in AGP because passengers are not allowed to walk on the apron unless the aircraft can't use the airbridge because of it's size. I'm sure it the same for LGW and FAO.
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Old 30th Oct 2010, 18:33
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The airbridge on stand 9 is in working order and has been used very often this year
net by a wide range of Charter airlines. It's a pity Aerlingus won't use it as they have no problem with airbridges at virtually every other airport that they fly to. If they were to use it, the CAA could make a case for installing another 3 which is what was originally envisaged. At the very least we should have escaltors to bring passengers up to the arrivals floor.
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Old 30th Oct 2010, 19:22
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At the very least we should have escaltors to bring passengers up to the arrivals floor.
It's ridiculous that escalators haven't been installed to bring passengers up to arrivals - this is very basic. New airbridges and escalators have been installed in SNN over the past few months so I don't think it's a case of the DAA not being willing to cough up the cash for them.
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Old 30th Oct 2010, 21:53
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by re-paired i ment damage costs re-paid to Aer Lingus. And Jamie2k9 a lot of carriers dont use airbridges in AGP, FAO, LGW - and use ramps that need pax to be bused to the terminals. Thats why AGP, FAO, LGW find it easier just to give FR free use of the airbridges. Also Jamie for e.g. EI, BA, ZB/MON etc.. dont use airbridges at FAO and are bused to/from the Terminal.
 
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Not sure if CAA i.e DAA accept liability for that particular incident.
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Old 31st Oct 2010, 10:04
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But seriously Ryan2000 how could they not like? One of our crew was on the job when the air bridge collided with EI833. It then forced the EI726 to become in-op and those pax from BHX where transfered to EI728 and where then bused from MAN to BHX, and your saying there not accepting liability! - Cant blame EI for not using the air-bridge.
 
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FR use air bridges in MAD as I saw when I flew with the them from MAD to DUB. The reason that FR use bridges in FAO is because they've been given to them to use as part of the deal of setting up the base in FAO. I'm guessing that MAD offered the same deal??? From what I am to understand AGP doesn't allow for remote stand use hence the use of airbridges there.

As for EI and many other operators using airbridges in ORK the simple answer is that they won't until the charge for using it is dropped. I don't understand though as the charges advertised for using airbridges are the same price in both SNN and ORK. Sad state of affairs. Does anyone know what the real reason is?
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Old 31st Oct 2010, 16:13
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This incident happened almost three years ago. Time to end the stand off. Now that EI are edging back towards away from a purely low cost model, surely it would make sense for airbridges to be used at least on code share services from ORK to LHR and AMS. As far as I know there is just a token charge for using the airbridge at Cork. On another subject passengers traffic is down 11 percent for 2010 so far this year at ORK. This follows a decline of 16 per cent in 2009.
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Thats what i mean , like how could that the argument progress over 3 years! also on another note a lot of staff upset at Cork this morning as EI has decided to drop one of the Cork crews until next March and continue using a Dublin crew! This to me is just pathetic by EI managment they only acctually informed staff of this last Friday week, after many of them new BCN had been dropped and the base reduced for winter. Cant believe though that EI would continue to use a DUB crew shoryl it costs more for them to be put up in CIAH every night!! but i guess not they obiously no what theyre doing The crew that was dropped today at Cork are due in at 4.50 from Lanzarote.
 
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@KAVS8

are you saying that EI are putting cork crew on compulsory/forced unpaid leave or worse still are being let go? I understand you're saying this because of the following

also on another note a lot of staff upset at Cork this morning as EI has decided to drop one of the Cork crews until next March
The crew that was dropped today at Cork are due in at 4.50 from Lanzarote.
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i think they're being put on standby between 1 Nov 2010 & 26 Mar 2010 - and will not be paid until called for duty. Can someone explain though why EI find it more cost effective to use a DUB crew at ORK ?
 
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Aerlingus has for years been putting crews up in hotels in order to service their Cork base. They sometimes ask if people want to move to Cork. In the past the take up hasn't been great and Aerlingus being Aerlingus continued to put crews up in hotels. Apparently people feel they will be marginalised if they move to what is still regarded as an outpost rather than a genuine base.

However I can't explain this latest bizarre decision.
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