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Old 12th Feb 2011, 17:39
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http://www.pprune.org/flight-ground-...situation.html

Possibly related? The former KLM Ground Services handling operation was renamed COBALT following the Air France merger and they are apprently shutting up shop and moving out. It seems that a completely new and untested outfit are moving in to replace them. Quite why Air France by CityJet didn't consolidate with Air France owned COBALT is another issue. If the new mob do set up, does TUPE apply as they have no relation no the previous handler?

I smell fish...
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Old 13th Feb 2011, 11:54
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Cityjet starting Toulon and Avignon in the summer

CityJet New south of France flights to Avignon Toulon from London City

Looking at the schedules, looks like they have plans for the aircraft to be doing other things from these points over the weekend.

I do however find it a bit strange. I took Cityjet LCY to Nice 18 months ago and we were full both ways, despite which the route was abandoned a few months later. If they can't make Nice work, what chance two lesser places along the coast ?
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WHBM - load factor and yield are two different beasts, as has been said on many threads many times.
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Originally Posted by egnxema
WHBM - load factor and yield are two different beasts, as has been said on many threads many times.
Probably by me ..... and simplistically it is correct, but it would be surprising to get better yields to these off-line points than to Nice. If you want good commercial/business traffic from LCY to the French Mediterranean coast you surely look to Nice and Marseilles; these new ones look entirely leisure oriented.
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Old 23rd Feb 2011, 16:59
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BA is adding more flights from LCY this summer.

Faro (4 x a week) and Malaga (3 x a week) start on June 7th and 8th respectively. And they will be operated year round.

Extra flights;
Nice: May - Sept > Up to double daily.
Palma: July - Sept > From 4 up to 10 times a week
Ibiza: July - Sept > From 4 up to 10 times a week

A total of 39 flights a week to the sun at the height of summer.
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Old 27th Feb 2011, 11:16
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LCY Cable Car

"How low do they think aircraft are at 2 DME on a 5.5 degree approach (answer about 1,100 feet)."

But how high are the towers ?

The north main tower (admittedly 275m south of the runway centre line) is 93m above ordnance datum and is just scraping the bottom of the the take-off control surface - in fact that seems to be the constraint on its design.

The north intermediate tower (115m south of the runway) is 66m AOD.

It seems odd to me that the take-off surface is lower than the approach surface.
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Old 28th Feb 2011, 20:52
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Originally Posted by 118.70
It seems odd to me that the take-off surface is lower than the approach surface.
Approach is at 5.5 degrees. Take off has to allow for an engine failure on departure, when your performance will be no different at LCY to anywhere else.
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Old 28th Feb 2011, 21:40
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Apparently Skywork to increase BRN to twice daily.
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Old 3rd Mar 2011, 15:44
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London City closed

Local BBC radio reporting that London City is closed due to helicopter crash/incident.
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Old 3rd Mar 2011, 15:47
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Radio says helicopter 'stranded on runway'. Apparently now cleared and airport open again.
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Apparently Bell Jet Ranger declared emergency:

London City Airport shut after helicopter emergency landing - Travel - The Docklands

Airport website reports runway open.
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Apparently now cleared and airport open again.
Indeed. Would be good if people checked before posting.....to quote the London City Airport website :

Our runway is now open and fully operational. Passengers affected by earlier disruptions should contact their airlines for more information
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Old 3rd Mar 2011, 16:25
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Mixture.Please don't shoot the messenger!
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Old 4th Mar 2011, 11:08
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Originally Posted by mixture
Indeed. Would be good if people checked before posting.....to quote the London City Airport website
That's not really an appropriate comment. Yesterday afternoon, throughout the incident, the website was way out of kilter with reality (as the London City one invariably is at such times). Firstly it was just showing revised, later arrival times (which never happened), with no comment, then, as time progressed, there was a message on the website front screen but the arrival/departure info just airbrushed all the delayed flights off as if they had all happened to time. Not once was any sensible information shown about delayed/diverted inbounds.

Meanwhile, how long will the continuing bug on the website which shows all the arrival/departure lines twice (not necessarily next to each other) be there before it is fixed ? If LCY were a charity I would offer my IT side to come and help them fix things like this. But it's not a charity.
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LCY-JER

The Channel Islands based carrier Blue Islands have announced that they will begin operating flights between JER and LCY from the 18th April. The flights will open 2 x Daily Monday to Friday and 1 x Daily on a Sunday. The flights will be operated by a 48 seater ATR42-500.

Blue Islands | News and information about airline, aircrafts, destinations and crew

According to the new article the schedule will be as follows

SI 712 JER 07:25 LCY 08:45 AT5 x67
SI 718 JER 17:15 LCY 18:35 AT5 x6

SI 713 LCY 09:15 JER 10:35 AT5 x67
SI 719 LCY 19:05 JER 20:25 AT5 x6

A look at the Blue Islands website shows that for the first 2 weeks of operation flights are only operating 2 x Daily Mon-Thu. Fri and Sun flights will commence week begining 3rd May 2011

Fares start at:

£85 one way JER-LCY
£98 one way LCY-JER
£181 return
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Originally Posted by BAladdy
The Channel Islands based carrier Blue Islands have announced that they will begin operating flights between JER and LCY from the 18th April. The flights will open 2 x Daily Monday to Friday and 1 x Daily on a Sunday. The flights will be operated by a 48 seater ATR42-500.
Did I see that, as Blue Islands are not expecting to have the ATR fully in place at the start of service, things will start off using a Scot Airways Dornier. Would be nice to see an old friend back.
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Old 7th Mar 2011, 17:33
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New Route by Cityjet:

London City - Pau MThSat Avro RJ85 starts April 2.
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Old 17th Apr 2011, 22:47
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Just for the record, Sun Air's Billund service came to an end at the end of the Winter schedules. Do328 perhaps not the best size for LCY nowadays.
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Just for the record, Sun Air's Billund service came to an end at the end of the Winter schedules. Do328 perhaps not the best size for LCY nowadays.
Just for the record it didn't.

SunAir - London City - Billund - Billund - London City
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Interesting to see that Sunair's morning flight operates only MTuWed. At "normal" airports, Tu & Wed tend to be the weakest days of the week. This makes me wondering how the situation at LCY is - is the number passengers more evenly balanced than at other airports? Or are passengers numbers even higher on those days that are weak at other airports?

(P.S.: I am aware of the weekend closure)
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