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BmiBaby @ BOH
"Plus the development of the new terminal at Bournemouth Airport, which is due to open in spring 2010, will open up even more opportunities for bmibaby."
Does this mean aircraft taken from other bases could be moved here?! or does it mean a few more routes tied into a W-pattern?
Anyway good news still, cheaper than Flybe by £12 on May Bank Holiday at £60
Does this mean aircraft taken from other bases could be moved here?! or does it mean a few more routes tied into a W-pattern?
Anyway good news still, cheaper than Flybe by £12 on May Bank Holiday at £60
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DSA wins easyJet base
I'm a bit perplexed as to why easyJet would want to launch DSA base with 1 aircraft to AMS, BCN, PMI, FAO & PRG instead of a base at BOH, in light of the following:
BOH has less competition than airports in the north
BOH has higher wealth/prosperity in the region
BOH routes to PRG and AMS did better than DSA when TFly operated them!
BOH has much higher potential for inbound demand
Does anyone else agree that this is a rather silly move and smacks of 'politics' rather than anything else.
easyJet seem hacked off at MAGgroup right now so give more to PEEL but ignore the potential at other UK regions. Im sure BOH would have given a deal on par with DSA if they had to right?
BOH has less competition than airports in the north
BOH has higher wealth/prosperity in the region
BOH routes to PRG and AMS did better than DSA when TFly operated them!
BOH has much higher potential for inbound demand
Does anyone else agree that this is a rather silly move and smacks of 'politics' rather than anything else.
easyJet seem hacked off at MAGgroup right now so give more to PEEL but ignore the potential at other UK regions. Im sure BOH would have given a deal on par with DSA if they had to right?
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New baby routes
I think it is highly unlikely that BOH will get any additional baby routes until next winter, which will probably be on sale by Feb/March.
The 12/14 units that baby have to play with wil be (more than) fully comitted for S10 and the JER=BOH is just a crafty use a gap in the program.
I think its very unlikely that they will position in or base or crew change, so i would expect a W with PRG or GVA using an EMA aircraft just as the BFS-PRG use a CWL aircraft for W10/11
The 12/14 units that baby have to play with wil be (more than) fully comitted for S10 and the JER=BOH is just a crafty use a gap in the program.
I think its very unlikely that they will position in or base or crew change, so i would expect a W with PRG or GVA using an EMA aircraft just as the BFS-PRG use a CWL aircraft for W10/11
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Why so exited ?
Why is everybody getting so exited about 3 flights to Jersey per week !
After spending 40 million + I should think they need to see it as busy as SOU, if not busier. Looked on the BOH web site and just 4 flights on Sat 21th Dec, that is a JOKE !
Somebody better get their finger out ! Or heads must role ! Surely their are some good marketing peeps at the Jobcentre.
Where are the SKI Flights ? Are there any ?
How many Flights per hour can the New Terminal handle ? There must be 10 stands now ? ( All empty I suppose )
I think the phone numbers for the Airlines may be in the Yellow Pages, first thing Monday, get someone at MAG to have a ring around !
After spending 40 million + I should think they need to see it as busy as SOU, if not busier. Looked on the BOH web site and just 4 flights on Sat 21th Dec, that is a JOKE !
Somebody better get their finger out ! Or heads must role ! Surely their are some good marketing peeps at the Jobcentre.
Where are the SKI Flights ? Are there any ?
How many Flights per hour can the New Terminal handle ? There must be 10 stands now ? ( All empty I suppose )
I think the phone numbers for the Airlines may be in the Yellow Pages, first thing Monday, get someone at MAG to have a ring around !
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Bournemouth
I agree with DILLTHEDOG.Could be 45 million down the drain, unless they know something we dont,the airport badly needs more flights to justify that sort of spending.Fingers crossed on that one.Ski flights will start the end of this week until the end of the ski season.Only hope for better things to come,if not the enlarged apron could be used as an overflow car park for Bournemouth hospital.
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I think one of the problems here is that there is no route development team. There is only one person doing this, and they have to manage EMA and HUY airports too in terms of attracting scheduled services. I am sure we can all guess which airport absorbs most of the time and some of the airlines that would be good for BOH (like Air Southwest etc) has no relevance to EMA or that region of the country.
Have all you people forgotten we are in the middle of a recession.
The terminal development started when the good times were rolling along, it's just due to open at a bad time!
Once the economy begins to pick up again more flights and operators will appear - maybe for summer 2011.
The terminal development started when the good times were rolling along, it's just due to open at a bad time!
Once the economy begins to pick up again more flights and operators will appear - maybe for summer 2011.
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Area 51..Tell me about..I'm looking after 60 odd Lapland and Ski flights from LGW this Winter 
. Im currently up in KAO and KTT auditing the ground Ops in -30 degs celcius 
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Looking at all the grandparents coming off the RVN flight yesterday you have to wonder why they arent more popular out of BOH ?...The Ski flights are propably suffering this year though, due to the dodgy claptrap flat builders ( sorry I mean the property developers ) suffering a shortage of cheap money to knock down the rest of Boscombe and go snowboarding in Andorra
. Im currently up in KAO and KTT auditing the ground Ops in -30 degs celcius . Looking at all the grandparents coming off the RVN flight yesterday you have to wonder why they arent more popular out of BOH ?...The Ski flights are propably suffering this year though, due to the dodgy claptrap flat builders ( sorry I mean the property developers ) suffering a shortage of cheap money to knock down the rest of Boscombe and go snowboarding in Andorra
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Groundloop - We all know there is a recession !
However how many people from the BOH catchement do you think drove to LGW, LHR, LTN, STN this saturday, or any other day for that matter ! I bet it's enough to fill a few Jets.
This must be the quitest winter at BOH for 15 years, Shamrock7seal hit the nail on the head, BOH seems to be forgotten by MAG, when it should be a priority !
Southampton is just up the road and they are stacked with Flybe and other operators with good loads, it's time someone had some balls and started some competition for them.
There is also plenty of route activity in the North at the other Regional Airports. Why nothing in the south ?
However how many people from the BOH catchement do you think drove to LGW, LHR, LTN, STN this saturday, or any other day for that matter ! I bet it's enough to fill a few Jets.
This must be the quitest winter at BOH for 15 years, Shamrock7seal hit the nail on the head, BOH seems to be forgotten by MAG, when it should be a priority !
Southampton is just up the road and they are stacked with Flybe and other operators with good loads, it's time someone had some balls and started some competition for them.
There is also plenty of route activity in the North at the other Regional Airports. Why nothing in the south ?
BOH seems to be forgotten by MAG, when it should be a priority !
However how many people from the BOH catchement do you think drove to LGW, LHR, LTN, STN this saturday, or any other day for that matter ! I bet it's enough to fill a few Jets.
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MAG is a professional organisation, they have invested in their asset - BOH, they'll get their money back either when they sell the asset (the airport), or through revenue earned from it. Its not much different than deciding to spend money on your house.
The entire global aviation market has slowed down. UK airports with a leisure focus have been hit hard north and south. Forget winter 2009, the decisions are made. It's next year and the new budget for the airport operator that deserves focus.
Business travel is coming back (LHR is growing) and SOU has stabilised. Look for a strong summer at BOH in 2010. Any airline looking for profitable growth will come along if they think there is a market.
Both TOM and RYR seem happy enough,even Palmair will keep plodding along.
Good chance of a 2nd RYR aircraft from May is my guess. EZY remain a dark horse too.
FF
The entire global aviation market has slowed down. UK airports with a leisure focus have been hit hard north and south. Forget winter 2009, the decisions are made. It's next year and the new budget for the airport operator that deserves focus.
Business travel is coming back (LHR is growing) and SOU has stabilised. Look for a strong summer at BOH in 2010. Any airline looking for profitable growth will come along if they think there is a market.
Both TOM and RYR seem happy enough,even Palmair will keep plodding along.
Good chance of a 2nd RYR aircraft from May is my guess. EZY remain a dark horse too.
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NOV 09 pax stats
BOH handled 40,734 pax in Nov 09. This was better than DTV, DSA, BLK, NWI, INV and other airports in 'our class'. EXT performed marginally better at 42,000 pax. SOU performed very well at 138,000. This shows there is still potential to grow and claw back the market share from SOU dominated by one carrier and expensive fares.
Shocking reductions were seen on EDI, DUB but load factors still 60-65% (EDI for example was 9,157 last year but 6,933 this year)
Very good increases seen on TFS, LPA, ACE and FNC. TFS for example was 5,228 compared with 3,656 last year.
Totally agree with FF, will see a strong summer 2010 and return of growth in terms of airlines, passengers and based aircraft.
Shocking reductions were seen on EDI, DUB but load factors still 60-65% (EDI for example was 9,157 last year but 6,933 this year)
Very good increases seen on TFS, LPA, ACE and FNC. TFS for example was 5,228 compared with 3,656 last year.
Totally agree with FF, will see a strong summer 2010 and return of growth in terms of airlines, passengers and based aircraft.
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All going to plan then !
So it's all going to plan then !
Exeter handled more Pax than BOH last month and SOU did 3.5 times the volume.
What's the target ? to beat Coventry ?
If Groundloop is right then, there is clearly a market for someone to operate a fleet of 6 seater jets, as everyone in the BOH catchment wants to go to different destinations.
Roll on 2010 ( with Fingers crossed )
Exeter handled more Pax than BOH last month and SOU did 3.5 times the volume.
What's the target ? to beat Coventry ?
If Groundloop is right then, there is clearly a market for someone to operate a fleet of 6 seater jets, as everyone in the BOH catchment wants to go to different destinations.
Roll on 2010 ( with Fingers crossed )
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I must admit i have given up with this airport for anything bar "bucket and spade" routes flying on silly days at even more crazy times.
I think its going to take a lot more than a fancy departure area to get the people using it .
I think its going to take a lot more than a fancy departure area to get the people using it .
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British Criticism
Agree that more could be done to exploit BOH's potential especially when silly timings and silly days of departure are the only offerings on certain routes. Is it any wonder the routes don't take off!?
But as for the comments regarding the terminal. Isn't it funny how British opinions are. A few months ago before all this development work was taking place people were moaning the only reason the airport wasn't taking off was because it had a garden shed for a terminal. Now the comments have come ful circle and its about what a waste of money its all been as no new operators have come along. ITS BEEN A FEW MONTHS PEOPLE, HELLO!?
Give it time! Operators don't come to an airport because it has a lovely terminal. But a decent efficient terminal which BOH will soon have will certainly assist in attracting more serious attention than it could ever have done before with the terrible limited temporary structure it was. The region of BOH deserves this - it has the largest conurbation in the southwest after Bristol. The airport should be handling at least 2.5m today so the catch up will be quick when it does occur and this new terminal will assist that.
But as for the comments regarding the terminal. Isn't it funny how British opinions are. A few months ago before all this development work was taking place people were moaning the only reason the airport wasn't taking off was because it had a garden shed for a terminal. Now the comments have come ful circle and its about what a waste of money its all been as no new operators have come along. ITS BEEN A FEW MONTHS PEOPLE, HELLO!?
Give it time! Operators don't come to an airport because it has a lovely terminal. But a decent efficient terminal which BOH will soon have will certainly assist in attracting more serious attention than it could ever have done before with the terrible limited temporary structure it was. The region of BOH deserves this - it has the largest conurbation in the southwest after Bristol. The airport should be handling at least 2.5m today so the catch up will be quick when it does occur and this new terminal will assist that.
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Agree with LoveJet on this one
Bournemouth has waited many , many years for a decent terminal and infrastucture to go along with it and finally the MAG group have put £45 m into Bournemouth to get this going .
Bournemouth will never be like Southampton in the route structure that they have but we have finally got a few based airlines and a small network of holiday routes that are doing well and will hopefully grow
I agree though the marketing department does seem very slow on the up take to promote routes and make people aware but hopefully soon that will change as well , and the airport can move forward in a positive way
Bournemouth has waited many , many years for a decent terminal and infrastucture to go along with it and finally the MAG group have put £45 m into Bournemouth to get this going .
Bournemouth will never be like Southampton in the route structure that they have but we have finally got a few based airlines and a small network of holiday routes that are doing well and will hopefully grow
I agree though the marketing department does seem very slow on the up take to promote routes and make people aware but hopefully soon that will change as well , and the airport can move forward in a positive way