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who owns those B767's in LT storage? Gulfair?
I'm curious as i'm pretty surprised to see them being stored without engine protection covers, pitot tubes not covered either. Pretty unprofessional. Given the time of year/humidity.
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who owns those B767's in LT storage? Gulfair?
I'm curious as i'm pretty surprised to see them being stored without engine protection covers, pitot tubes not covered either. Pretty unprofessional. Given the time of year/humidity.
I'm curious as i'm pretty surprised to see them being stored without engine protection covers, pitot tubes not covered either. Pretty unprofessional. Given the time of year/humidity.
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Looks like they will be flown with the Bournemouth based aircraft although they will have to do some changes somewhere along the line as the new routes clash with several departures already like Gerona , Dublin and Edinburgh
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Lanzarote 1315 2140
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Las Palmas 1315 2200
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Tenerife 1315 2210
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Lanzarote 1315 2140
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Good news for Boh.Has anybody worked out exactly what the Boh based AC is doing now over the winter, its starting to look like a very busy plane!
If these new routes continue next summer with the usual summer routes no way can one AC cope.
If these new routes continue next summer with the usual summer routes no way can one AC cope.
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More bucket and spades and funny hats .
I wish I had spoken out at the planning stage for this expansion and asked if BOH was ever going to provide any sort of service to middle Europe .
Or maybe I just cannot see what the attraction is with the bottom area of Spain.
I wish I had spoken out at the planning stage for this expansion and asked if BOH was ever going to provide any sort of service to middle Europe .
Or maybe I just cannot see what the attraction is with the bottom area of Spain.
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two floors - new terminal build
The new terminal looks like its on two floors - does that mean the landside will extend upstairs to the windows adjacent to the apron for views of the aircraft? Would be great if they are catering to the kids, families and enthusiasts...
I wish I had spoken out at the planning stage for this expansion and asked if BOH was ever going to provide any sort of service to middle Europe .
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I beg to differ groundloop.
these days the airports hold the key to their own futures depending on whether they are forward thinkers or old school.
If an airport comes to us and provides not only zero fees (thus recognising they can make money from the volumes we provide) but also marketing support they will be able to decide not only how many based aircraft they can get but will have some say on routes - if support is higher on some markets for example than others.
these days the airports hold the key to their own futures depending on whether they are forward thinkers or old school.
If an airport comes to us and provides not only zero fees (thus recognising they can make money from the volumes we provide) but also marketing support they will be able to decide not only how many based aircraft they can get but will have some say on routes - if support is higher on some markets for example than others.
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Please explain Ryanair1
So Ryanair will base Aircraft at an airport for Zero Fees !
Ryanair want to practically do away with Handling Agents.
Ryanair charge for overweight bags, don't allow more than one bag hand luggage and charge extra to check in hold bags.
Thus putting off any purchases the any pax may make in any of the airports retail outlets.
So what benefit is it to any airport to have Ryanair landing there for nothing.
Or is the profit from parking and a bacon butty with coffee going to cover all the Airports overheads, Security, Fire Cover, ATC, Electricity etc etc.
Please explain how Ryanair will bring any profit to any Airport under those conditions ?
Or is Ryanair the only company allowed to profit.
I think all Airport Charges should be fixed at a reasonable rate across the board, so no one Airline can benefit, call it "Fair Trading" or a level playing field.
And God forbid that Ryanair or their Pax will have to pay any taxes or charges other than those added by Ryanair in the later stages of the booking process.
Or they will throw one of their many Teddy Bears ( and they have a lot ) in the corner, and pull out !
They don't need to be forward thinking, they need to be barking mad !
Ryanair want to practically do away with Handling Agents.
Ryanair charge for overweight bags, don't allow more than one bag hand luggage and charge extra to check in hold bags.
Thus putting off any purchases the any pax may make in any of the airports retail outlets.
So what benefit is it to any airport to have Ryanair landing there for nothing.
Or is the profit from parking and a bacon butty with coffee going to cover all the Airports overheads, Security, Fire Cover, ATC, Electricity etc etc.
Please explain how Ryanair will bring any profit to any Airport under those conditions ?
Or is Ryanair the only company allowed to profit.
I think all Airport Charges should be fixed at a reasonable rate across the board, so no one Airline can benefit, call it "Fair Trading" or a level playing field.
And God forbid that Ryanair or their Pax will have to pay any taxes or charges other than those added by Ryanair in the later stages of the booking process.
Or they will throw one of their many Teddy Bears ( and they have a lot ) in the corner, and pull out !
They don't need to be forward thinking, they need to be barking mad !
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I would be careful about saying you support 'price fixing' dillthedog, as this is an illegal activity and goes against fair and just competition.
It is an airport's perogative to have Ryanair or not. We do not hold guns to their heads. The airports are welcome to offer the same deals to any other airlines if they so wish - if those other airlines can provide the kind of volumes and growth that we provide.
Airports have many ways to earn profits - and lucrative ones at that. Airports revenue form airline charges are reducing while rentals, commercial enterprises and ancillary revenues are rising. Much like Ryanair with our airfares. They are reducing while our ancillary revenues are increasing. It's all about offering choice. You don't have to buy it if you don't want it.
Competition is about freedom of business enterprise to find new ways to make money, to evolve into more efficient and more reliable and lean businesses.
It is an airport's perogative to have Ryanair or not. We do not hold guns to their heads. The airports are welcome to offer the same deals to any other airlines if they so wish - if those other airlines can provide the kind of volumes and growth that we provide.
Airports have many ways to earn profits - and lucrative ones at that. Airports revenue form airline charges are reducing while rentals, commercial enterprises and ancillary revenues are rising. Much like Ryanair with our airfares. They are reducing while our ancillary revenues are increasing. It's all about offering choice. You don't have to buy it if you don't want it.
Competition is about freedom of business enterprise to find new ways to make money, to evolve into more efficient and more reliable and lean businesses.
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We never forget you have a choice
The endlesss stream of anti Ryanair ranting on Prune gets rather dull.
Every single passenger that flies on Ryanair has the choice to use the carrier or not. If the airline gets to the point where traffic is shrinking and not growing, then perhaps there may be reason to take a look at the extent of their 'unbundled' approach. The reality is that it works today despite the rants of some. And Ryanair is a business, just like Aldi and Tesco, its all about cost and price. Once agin Ryranair gets it right more often than most.
Airports operate like landlords, they need tenants to pay the bills, the tenants need passengers, if Ryanair offers service and hence passengers, where BA, and others do not, thereby allowing the airport to become viable and to support more jobs, great stuff. Its not for Pruners to judge whether the commercials are right or not, there are often many hidden reasons for decisions. Whart counts are the services and hence the jobs.
Be sure that RYR at BOH has drivn the installation of CAT 3 ILS and a brand new apron and a brand new terminal. The passengers will benefit, so will the airlines and so will it seems from their investment decisions the airport. A lot of people have been kept in work as a result. And a lot more have travelled without the need to endure LHR, STN or LGW.
BOH airport strategy has been flawed in the past at times, often for political or bureaucratic reasons.
But these days, in the main, the airport is getting it right, and Ryanair is voting with its fleet!
I'll vote with my feet.
FF
Every single passenger that flies on Ryanair has the choice to use the carrier or not. If the airline gets to the point where traffic is shrinking and not growing, then perhaps there may be reason to take a look at the extent of their 'unbundled' approach. The reality is that it works today despite the rants of some. And Ryanair is a business, just like Aldi and Tesco, its all about cost and price. Once agin Ryranair gets it right more often than most.
Airports operate like landlords, they need tenants to pay the bills, the tenants need passengers, if Ryanair offers service and hence passengers, where BA, and others do not, thereby allowing the airport to become viable and to support more jobs, great stuff. Its not for Pruners to judge whether the commercials are right or not, there are often many hidden reasons for decisions. Whart counts are the services and hence the jobs.
Be sure that RYR at BOH has drivn the installation of CAT 3 ILS and a brand new apron and a brand new terminal. The passengers will benefit, so will the airlines and so will it seems from their investment decisions the airport. A lot of people have been kept in work as a result. And a lot more have travelled without the need to endure LHR, STN or LGW.
BOH airport strategy has been flawed in the past at times, often for political or bureaucratic reasons.
But these days, in the main, the airport is getting it right, and Ryanair is voting with its fleet!
I'll vote with my feet.
FF
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OK First Ryanair 1 , "set charges" are not price fixing, like in the Airport Car park, everyone pays the same.
A nice long winded posting but you don't answer the question, how is an airport going to make money if not from the retail outlets that Ryanair pax are unable to spend in because it will cost them in your ad ons. as I said please explain ?? not skirt round the question with generalisations.
The growth that you provide is only good if it generates income.
Flitefone, I actually travel with Ryanair alot and am not knocking what they offer, it's exceptional value for money, if you play your cards right and carry no bags, don't priority board etc etc
But the rules they have, do deter me from spending at the Airport Shops as it will result in more charges, so I don't spend, if pax don't spend in the shops they can't pay the Airport charges.
Ryanair don't cut costs they just get somebody else to pay them via a different route, it's common sense, if an airport lets Ryanair in free they will have to put a £1 a week on parking, or charge the retailers an extra 1% on sales, so your coffee will be 3p more a cup.
It's all bull
!!! I know if i can fly for £10 each way from europe to the UK, some poor sod that booked late with excess baggage is paying for it.
Alll these accociated trades and businesses cannot do everything for nothing all business needs a margin whether it be Ryanair, the Airport or the Coffee Shop.
Ryanair just do a very good job of making everyone think they are cheaper, when someone else is picking up the cost.
I can sell a tin of beans for Fall if I get the supplier to sell it to me for fall, but eventually he will go out of business unless he gets the man that grows the beans to do it for fall then his family will starve.
Reducing your costs normally means someone gets shafted, somewhere along the line, and that's a fact.
A nice long winded posting but you don't answer the question, how is an airport going to make money if not from the retail outlets that Ryanair pax are unable to spend in because it will cost them in your ad ons. as I said please explain ?? not skirt round the question with generalisations.
The growth that you provide is only good if it generates income.
Flitefone, I actually travel with Ryanair alot and am not knocking what they offer, it's exceptional value for money, if you play your cards right and carry no bags, don't priority board etc etc
But the rules they have, do deter me from spending at the Airport Shops as it will result in more charges, so I don't spend, if pax don't spend in the shops they can't pay the Airport charges.
Ryanair don't cut costs they just get somebody else to pay them via a different route, it's common sense, if an airport lets Ryanair in free they will have to put a £1 a week on parking, or charge the retailers an extra 1% on sales, so your coffee will be 3p more a cup.
It's all bull
!!! I know if i can fly for £10 each way from europe to the UK, some poor sod that booked late with excess baggage is paying for it.Alll these accociated trades and businesses cannot do everything for nothing all business needs a margin whether it be Ryanair, the Airport or the Coffee Shop.
Ryanair just do a very good job of making everyone think they are cheaper, when someone else is picking up the cost.
I can sell a tin of beans for F
all if I get the supplier to sell it to me for fall, but eventually he will go out of business unless he gets the man that grows the beans to do it for fall then his family will starve.Reducing your costs normally means someone gets shafted, somewhere along the line, and that's a fact.
