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i guess the viability of the routes was on the line in the current climate, especially when resources need to be channeled to battling Aurigny.
i would question their wisdom though in wanting to go head to head with aurigny in bristol and southampton when other business is available at bournemouth - there is a market there it just needs the right approach.
you cannot reduce frequency again and again and expect to still access the same demand pool, demand will reduce at a similar or worse rate than the frequency reductions.
bournemouth could do very well with a new Saab 340 type operation (with a branded franchise airline like virgin or ba) to places like JER/GCI daily, MAN daily, BHD, CDG etc.
last time this was touted was back in '91 under the name of Southern Airways.
BOH has a catchment of 5m people (Ryanair drive-times) but almost 550,000 within 20 mins drive time - not incl SOU. So there is definately a market.
i would question their wisdom though in wanting to go head to head with aurigny in bristol and southampton when other business is available at bournemouth - there is a market there it just needs the right approach.
you cannot reduce frequency again and again and expect to still access the same demand pool, demand will reduce at a similar or worse rate than the frequency reductions.
bournemouth could do very well with a new Saab 340 type operation (with a branded franchise airline like virgin or ba) to places like JER/GCI daily, MAN daily, BHD, CDG etc.
last time this was touted was back in '91 under the name of Southern Airways.
BOH has a catchment of 5m people (Ryanair drive-times) but almost 550,000 within 20 mins drive time - not incl SOU. So there is definately a market.
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if Exeter, Plymouth, Newquay, Cardiff, Bristol and Southampton can support domestic services then Bournemouth should definately be able to. Why they always seem to lose out is beyond me - i think its just a case of bad luck and timing with inappropriate airlines - rather than viability or market demand. Bournemouth is the second largest city in the south west (after Bristol): it should be able to support core domestic routes.
'Long' list of past airlines that either went bust or never flew:
Euro Direct Airlines, Euroscot Express, Gill Airways, Dan Air, Jersey European, Aurigny, Southern Airways, Air Sarnia, Jet2, Air Berlin, Wizz, Flyglobespan,
'Short' list of successes: Ryanair, Palmair, easyJet, Thomsonfly
'Long' list of past airlines that either went bust or never flew:
Euro Direct Airlines, Euroscot Express, Gill Airways, Dan Air, Jersey European, Aurigny, Southern Airways, Air Sarnia, Jet2, Air Berlin, Wizz, Flyglobespan,
'Short' list of successes: Ryanair, Palmair, easyJet, Thomsonfly
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Lovejet - Whilst I agree with what you are saying about domestic flights from BOH, you will find that all major UK airports have long lists of airlines that pulled out their operations (my local, BHX is no exception - AZ, OK, AI, AA, BA and thats just in the last few years!).
And I really don't think that an airport like BOH is doing too badly when it can boast the two biggest lo-co airlines in the UK and an airline that regularly wins awards for its exceptional customer service as three out of its four recent 'successes'
And I really don't think that an airport like BOH is doing too badly when it can boast the two biggest lo-co airlines in the UK and an airline that regularly wins awards for its exceptional customer service as three out of its four recent 'successes'
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Ryanair Bournemouth
Can't help but notice that BOH appears on the Ryanair Route Map to be somewhere near Weymouth!! About an hours drive to the west of where the airport is actually located!. It's been incorrect for weeks now.
This is significant when taking the European visitor's view 'where am I going to land?'
Ryanair Map: Ryanair - Where We Fly
Actual Location: Maps Result - BH23, GB
Come on BOH Marketing/Ryanair, sort this one out and get it right.
FF
This is significant when taking the European visitor's view 'where am I going to land?'
Ryanair Map: Ryanair - Where We Fly
Actual Location: Maps Result - BH23, GB
Come on BOH Marketing/Ryanair, sort this one out and get it right.
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But....
Could be a rare case of FR thinking ahead, Weymouth will be a major center during the 2012 Olympics and FR could be planning to use BOH as a major hub for the extra traffic generated.
Certainly could explain why Bournemouth has been moved to the left, next it will be renamed as London (West)...
Certainly could explain why Bournemouth has been moved to the left, next it will be renamed as London (West)...
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A report in the Daily Echo today says that the airport expects over 3 million passengers a year by next summer, which is when they hope to have the new terminal completed. The 'temporary' departures has been open since Christmas and when I passed through in January it was a massive improvement. This must mean that there's an announcement shortly about further aircraft from FR, unless some other airline is planning something.
Airport expansion takes off (From Bournemouth Echo)
Airport expansion takes off (From Bournemouth Echo)
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A report in the Daily Echo today says that the airport expects over 3 million passengers a year by next summer, which is when they hope to have the new terminal completed. The 'temporary' departures has been open since Christmas and when I passed through in January it was a massive improvement. This must mean that there's an announcement shortly about furhter aircraft from FR, unless some other airline is planning something.
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"Bournemouth is the second largest city in the south west (after Bristol): it should be able to support core domestic routes."
Not wanting to sound picky but Exeter & Plymouth are surely bigger and they ARE cities, Bournemouth is a town unless i'm much mistaken. Also I would of put the cities of Bath & Gloucester and towns of Swindon and possibly Taunton as bigger than Bournemouth.
However BOH is faring about the same as other uk airports, there is a downturn wherever you look so I wouldnt get too dispondent, just this week Lufthansa have said they're leaving BRS at the end of the month, after only a year, and BRS pax figs for feb are 26% down, this coming from probably the UK's fastest growing regional airport over the last 5 years or so.
"Bournemouth is the second largest city in the south west (after Bristol): it should be able to support core domestic routes."
Not wanting to sound picky but Exeter & Plymouth are surely bigger and they ARE cities, Bournemouth is a town unless i'm much mistaken. Also I would of put the cities of Bath & Gloucester and towns of Swindon and possibly Taunton as bigger than Bournemouth.
However BOH is faring about the same as other uk airports, there is a downturn wherever you look so I wouldnt get too dispondent, just this week Lufthansa have said they're leaving BRS at the end of the month, after only a year, and BRS pax figs for feb are 26% down, this coming from probably the UK's fastest growing regional airport over the last 5 years or so.
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When discussing the poulation of Bournemouth you really have to include all the towns that make up the conurbation here. According to the 2001 statistics the area has a population of 437,657 with the breakdown as follows
Bournemouth = 167,527
Poole = 144,800
Christchurch = 40,208
Ferndown = 26,858
Three Legged Cross = 25,246
Wimborne = 20,949
Verwood = 12,069
Bristol had a population of 420,556 in 2001
Torbay = 110,366
Exeter = 106,772
Bath = 90,144
These numbers are from the Governments own figures found at
Home: UK National Statistics Publication Hub
Bournemouth = 167,527
Poole = 144,800
Christchurch = 40,208
Ferndown = 26,858
Three Legged Cross = 25,246
Wimborne = 20,949
Verwood = 12,069
Bristol had a population of 420,556 in 2001
Torbay = 110,366
Exeter = 106,772
Bath = 90,144
These numbers are from the Governments own figures found at
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plus remember that Bournemouth probably has far more inbound potential than Bristol does. With Bristol carrying 6m pax a year right now BOH still has some significant catching up to do. SOU only carries 2m.
I predict a time when BOH will process 3.5m and SOU 3m
I predict a time when BOH will process 3.5m and SOU 3m
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I believe the newspaper report muddled itself in saying that BOH would see 3 mppa by next year. Clearly, that is just not going to happen. The government white paper suggests 3-4 mppa by 2030, although BOH's undoubted good luck (like BRS) in having in its hinterland a large number of comfortably-off, mainly older people with the means and will to travel may accelerate this growth when the economy gets back on track, whenever that may be.
Bournemouth/Poole is listed as the second largest urban area in the government's South West region, an area that stretches from Gloucestershire through the former Avon area, Somerset and Devon to Cornwall/Scilly Isles and eastwards to include Wiltshire/Swindon and Bournemouth/Poole/Dorset.
Bristol is easily the largest urban area. Its municipal population of just over 400,000 is meaningless to an extent in that the city boundary has not expanded since the 1960s and another 'city' called South Gloucestershire lies on the northern and eastern edge of the official city of Bristol (you can't see the join). Add in bits of two other local authorities that impinge into the urban sprawl and this puts physical urban 'Bristol' at around 650,000 and Greater Bristol around 1 million (20% of the population of the government SW region which is the largest by area of the English regions - Greater Bristol also provides 25% of the GDP).
Some might challenge that assertion.
Bristol is one of Englands' eight core cities and one of the most successful economically with a large business market. Leisure-wise BRS sits near the World Heritage City of Bath, the Cotswolds, the Mendips, Exmoor, Forest of Dean and Bristol Channel coast, and Bristol itself is being discovered more and more as a tourist destination in its own right.
On crude population figures BOH should be seeing nearly half of BRS's passenger numbers but we all know that life is not that simple. If it was some airports would be doing better than they are and others worse.
When discussing the poulation of Bournemouth you really have to include all the towns that make up the conurbation here. According to the 2001 statistics the area has a population of 437,657.....Bristol had a population of 420,556 in 2001
Bristol is easily the largest urban area. Its municipal population of just over 400,000 is meaningless to an extent in that the city boundary has not expanded since the 1960s and another 'city' called South Gloucestershire lies on the northern and eastern edge of the official city of Bristol (you can't see the join). Add in bits of two other local authorities that impinge into the urban sprawl and this puts physical urban 'Bristol' at around 650,000 and Greater Bristol around 1 million (20% of the population of the government SW region which is the largest by area of the English regions - Greater Bristol also provides 25% of the GDP).
plus remember that Bournemouth probably has far more inbound potential than Bristol does
Bristol is one of Englands' eight core cities and one of the most successful economically with a large business market. Leisure-wise BRS sits near the World Heritage City of Bath, the Cotswolds, the Mendips, Exmoor, Forest of Dean and Bristol Channel coast, and Bristol itself is being discovered more and more as a tourist destination in its own right.
On crude population figures BOH should be seeing nearly half of BRS's passenger numbers but we all know that life is not that simple. If it was some airports would be doing better than they are and others worse.
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As Blue Islands announced they would be pulling GCI/JER/ACI-BOH, I wouldnt be surprised at all to see Noel Hayes (Manx2) stepping in to take over the Channel Island routes (particularly as Blue Islands carried his supermarket freight from BOH-ACI).
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this is great news if it's true.
Noel Hayes is adept at discovering, exploiting and growing regional niche markets.
There IS a market between BOH and the channel islands - just takes the right business approach and blue islands have become greedy and desperate to enter a fight with aurigny and flybe which i believe to be commercial suicide.
Noel Hayes is adept at discovering, exploiting and growing regional niche markets.
There IS a market between BOH and the channel islands - just takes the right business approach and blue islands have become greedy and desperate to enter a fight with aurigny and flybe which i believe to be commercial suicide.
I remeber reading somewhere that Manx 2 were looking to operate IOM-BOH. I wouldn't be surprised if that now happens & the a/c operates a BOH-ACI service. Noel Hayes runs a supermarket in Alderney that used to buy a lot of freight space on Blue Islands, with tht route due to finish in a few days time he will need an alternative means of transport to get it to the island. Hey Presto, Manx 2 fill the gap.
Good Luck M2, I hope if the rumours are true that you grow this route & show Blue Islands (the airline NH started ) how it should be done & what service is all about.
Good Luck M2, I hope if the rumours are true that you grow this route & show Blue Islands (the airline NH started ) how it should be done & what service is all about.
