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Old 20th Feb 2008, 21:08
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Interesting news MARKYD, shall certainly be keeping an eye on that if it happens espically if it goes x3 a week!!! Would be a big commitment for a single BOH based TFly plane, would a EMA-BOH-LPA-BOH-EMA pattern or similar from another TFly base be used?

Looks like EDI-BOH on a double daily is 99% certain once EDI becomes a FR base, also hearing lots of chatter of BHD-BOH starting a daily route, will be interesting to see if FR can make it work after Jet2 withdrew the route last year.
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Old 21st Feb 2008, 00:39
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EDI looking like it could be a gem. No longer do the people of SOU and BOH have to put up with one unreliable airline to EDI (Flybe).

BHD looks good too, we are well aware that yield will probably be low on this route BUT we have a much larger public awareness in both regions, that Jet2 never did, and much lower cost base from which to operate it, so it should be a success. Plus we can drive people away from the unreliable and slow turboprop operations at SOU.
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Old 23rd Feb 2008, 12:58
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You're right about the time factor, not much in it really, but Flybe reliable ?That's very questionable. The fact is they are one of the least punctual UK airlines and have a notoriously bad record for cancelling flights / re-routing flights so they then become non-direct (ie doubling up ) and and are not particulalry cheap compared to the likes of Ryanair / Easyjet.
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Old 25th Feb 2008, 00:55
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Edinburgh announced

Bournemouth to Edinburgh is appearing on the new Ryanair website; but not yet bookable - waiting for system to go live

13 destinations from Bournemouth and growing
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Old 25th Feb 2008, 07:55
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Good news Ryanair1, that route will be an absolute peach! Plenty of growth available from the south coast yet.. Belfast, Venice and Rome should be on your radar too...

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Old 25th Feb 2008, 15:31
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PH to HH

Been on the RYR site this afternoon and can not find any info on this flight!! Can you tell us where it was, as the Ryanair news does not list it?
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Old 25th Feb 2008, 15:42
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apparently it was in the system this morning, but as it will not be announced until tomorrow, it's been removed. Should be loaded for real tomorrow sometime when FR announce the base at EDI.
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Old 25th Feb 2008, 15:58
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Great having the flights BUT the garden shed arrivals and belligerent staff will have to be sorted before the summer season
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Old 26th Feb 2008, 09:27
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I think the Shannon and Madrid routes might be red herrings as they are not showing up any where else in the system and also other routes that have been abandoned are still there eg . BLK STN

Its all good news though with the Edinburgh route and shows finally that Ryanair are committing to Bournemouth

Bournemouth handled 66061 passengers in January down 2000 from last year but very good growth considering no Paderborn , Amsterdam , Shannon or Madrid route this January

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Old 26th Feb 2008, 12:35
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EDI showing but not bookabale for a range of dates. Also PIK not showing for dates in late July/early August. Bug with the new system or is the route being withdrawn?
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Old 26th Feb 2008, 12:40
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Something very strage happening. BOH-EDI has vanished again. Not showing EDI-BOH either. Has anyone definatley confirmed if this is a route?
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Old 27th Feb 2008, 00:04
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will be announced Thursday at a press conference in Edinburgh

of course PIK not being withdrawn, it's only just gone up to double daily! Give us a chance to bed down the new booking system guys!
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Old 27th Feb 2008, 07:23
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BOH not as bad as others

reductions in Pax at other UK airports in Jan 08 were much worse than at BOH.

BOH saw a reduction in flights of -3.6% but a reduction in pax of -3.4% so actually a net rise of 0-2% (I know, it's small, but its something!)

Others UK airports did far worse

Coventry -46.3%
Norwich -19.1%
Cardiff -16.1%
Exeter -12%
Newquay -7.9%
Durham Tees Valley -7.8%
Inverness -3.9%

Even Southampton saw a reduction of -3% during Jan 08.

Which leads me to conclude, something happened during Jan 08 in the UK to reduce traffic? But what?
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Old 27th Feb 2008, 07:39
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Which leads me to conclude, something happened during Jan 08 in the UK to reduce traffic? But what?
Pax being put off by all the media hype of recession, credit crunch, etc?
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Old 27th Feb 2008, 08:09
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Lies - damn lies and statistics

http://www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?ca...=11&fld=200801

Folks - you need to loook at the whole picture, which is not completely available yet. But even with the limited data (only 80% of airports data already in for january - see link above) you can see that UK pax traffic grew in January 2008 over Jan 2007.

Look at the pdf file for UK Airport provisional statistics you have precise figures for each airport. Some go up, some go down.. thats business.

Caution though, these are provisional stats. Need the finalised data which usually takes several more weeks to show the true picture.

BOH is doing well and will certainly beat 2007 this year, 10% up for 2008 is reasonable estimate.

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Old 27th Feb 2008, 08:58
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ok so they're provisional, but...

BOH to GVA concerns me. flights up to 9 a week but pax load factor down from 75% to 66%.

Other concerns:

BOH to BGY which didnt get more than 30% load.
BOH to GNB loads at about 40% for easyJet and TOM

Perhaps GVA was diluted by the extra capacity on GNB?

Why on earth would easyJet experiment with Grenoble when other routes pose such greater potential? I don't get it.

Great results for Jan 08:

Dublin performed well
Gerona grew
Tenerife grew 33%
Alicante grew and FR load factors (LF) of about 88%!
Krakow not bad at 59% LF considering only operated for a few months so far
Katowice not bad either at 66% LF

obviously all this is estimated and based on the provisional stats but its a good guide.
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Old 28th Feb 2008, 08:17
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BOH to GVA concerns me. flights up to 9 a week but pax load factor down from 75% to 66%.
That's what happens when you initially increase capacity.

Previously, 7 rotations per week at 300 seats (150 in, 150 out) = 2100 seats available. 75% occupied = 1575 pax.

Now, 9 rotation per week at 300 seats = 2700 seats available. 66% occupied = 1782 pax.

Therefore pax numbers are up, it just takes time for the pax growth (13%) to catch up with the capacity growth (28%).
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Old 28th Feb 2008, 11:22
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BOH flights from FR's new Edinburgh base confirmed today

13 x weekly commencing Sept 08
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Old 28th Feb 2008, 13:25
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And here's the official release :-

Ryanair has today announced a new 'double daily' service to Edinburgh from 23rd September. Flights to Edinburgh will operate twice a day, Monday to Saturday and once a day on a Sunday. The announcement of the new destination comes just seven weeks after Bournemouth Airport became Ryanair's 24th European base.

The new route linking the south coast with the Scottish capital will be particularly welcomed by business passengers looking for return travel in a day. Flights from Bournemouth depart at 08.35 arriving into Edinburgh at 09.55. Return flights leave Edinburgh at 20.25, arriving back into Bournemouth at 21.35.

There's so much to see in Edinburgh, why not stay for longer? Visit its centuries-old castle, historic Royal Mile and late summer arts festival. Add stunning natural beauty, crisp Scottish air and some particularly hospitable eating and drinking dens - of which the city has more than its fair share - and you have the perfect recipe for the perfect break.

Edinburgh becomes the latest of 13 low-cost Ryanair routes from Bournemouth, which already include some of Europe's hottest summer spots and coolest cities. So now there really is no excuse not to get up and go, visit www.ryanair.com for more information.

HOWEVER, having just looked at the Ryanair site, this route is still not shown, nor can it be booked.
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Old 28th Feb 2008, 13:29
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Which amazingly Bournemouth Airport has just emailed out to it's customer mailing list!!!!

Marketing on the ball for once, I take it all back...
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