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Old 15th Nov 2010, 18:02
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Is the Aviavilsa ATR42 flying for Royal Mail to Edinburgh Mon-Fri evenings? Can't imagine who else it would be for.
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Assuming that BOH maintains a Public Use Aerodrome Licence, which my belief is it does, CAP 168, Chapter 1, Appendix 1A reproduces the conditions of its licence, Condition 1 being:

1 The aerodrome is licensed for public use and shall at all times when it is available for the
take-off or landing of aircraft be so available to all persons on equal terms and conditions.

link attached

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/CAP168.PDF
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Old 15th Nov 2010, 19:43
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deux point,


a) I think you will find it thomsonfly that put the spanner in the palmair works, a quick look at the flights over the last six months shows an awful lot of duplication particularly the canary islands.

b) Why are the airport building(planting) a rainforest so close to the runway? methinks the boys doing the birdscaring are going to have their handsful.
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Old 15th Nov 2010, 21:24
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Thomson have always done the same holiday routes as Palmair ( or very similar ), there was room for both at BOH, but Ryanair seemed to change their game plan this summer and even at BOH there was a limit to the number of Pax wanting to go to Spain & the Canaries, something had to give and it was Palmair.

Which under normal circumstances would have been almost acceptable, if a, it had been on a level playing field and b, they didn't then bail out for the winter.

Only time will tell what RYR's game plan is, but I'm sure all will be revealed come next February !
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Old 15th Nov 2010, 22:15
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This helps solves an annual problem for RYR. Their pilots are limited to 100 hours a month and 900 hours a year. Therefore they fly to the limit for 9 months and take 3 months off. RYR have always been short of pilot duty time in the winter and regularly park up 737s. Obviously this year they decided that pulling out of BOH helped them in more ways than one!
Not true in the slightest, a lot of the pilots have been moved abroad to foreign bases such as Barcelona.

If Ryanair come back, which they will, then Bournemouth will be busy again and making money, if Ryanair stay away, then others will come in.
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Old 16th Nov 2010, 04:34
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Yes the Aviavilsa ATR42 is doing Mon-Fri Boh-Edi for the royal mail
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Old 16th Nov 2010, 07:56
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Not true in the slightest, a lot of the pilots have been moved abroad to foreign bases such as Barcelona.
Except that these bases such as Barcelona are probably currently short of pilots as the normal locally based guys have most likely run out of hours. RYR are always moving crews about to provide cover.
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Old 16th Nov 2010, 08:56
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The hours question is not an issue, all the BOH based pilots are now flying in other bases all around the network. The Captains ( All on FR Sterling contracts ) in the UK and the FOs ( Mostly Brookfield Euro contracts ) are mostly in BCN. Personally Iam working one month, paid leave one month, unpaid leave leave one month, now looking forward to the longest christmas holiday of my life followed by a return to BOH on 1st Feb.
One thing that has become apparent when flying from other bases is the depth of cuts to the flying programme over the winter. Most bases seem to be operating at 50% or less with loads of A/C only flying once per day. The winter slowdown is affecting all bases not just BOH.
To me this is sound planning and good business not just some plan to shaft the workforce or the airports.
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Old 23rd Nov 2010, 14:46
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First time tomorrow ( Wednesday ) there are no scheduled departures from Bournemouth just the last return Paphos flight

Palmair have today confirmed they will not be using there own aircraft next summer but taking seats off Thomson if they decide to actually operate a summer programme next year , a decision will be made next month , so ending Palmair finally that started in 1993 ( very sad ) and also kept Bournemouth running in some years

Ryanair still have not put anything on sale past March , not even for the busy Easter rush , while all other UK airports have a summer programme now Bournemouth is left waiting and loosing even more customers , very frustrating
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Old 23rd Nov 2010, 15:21
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I know it cannot be helped, but this is why it is awful for an airport to practically depend on one airline. Very sad
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Old 23rd Nov 2010, 16:01
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There is however a Ryanair programme starting from 1st Feb on the Bournemouth Airport website.

Bournemouth Airport : Timetables

Select all flights then select usual airports.
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Old 23rd Nov 2010, 17:36
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The timetable has been published by the airport but this has not been confirmed by Ryanair as still no routes are bookable after mid March , its only the winter timetable with 1 aircraft operating these routes and the airport i would imagine are still in the dark as the public are
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Old 23rd Nov 2010, 21:10
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Ryanair - BOH

Let the Games begin !
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Old 24th Nov 2010, 13:05
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Palmair redundancies

article in the echo:

Bournemouth's Palmair set to cut staff to three (From Bournemouth Echo)

No real surprise as they did not keep up with the times. A shame though as their brand was potentially strong.
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Old 24th Nov 2010, 13:22
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New York

Tomorrow the New York arrival is scheduled at 08:55. Monarch Airlines.
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Old 24th Nov 2010, 14:52
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The problem with BOH is that the people running the airport have not got a clue what they are doing!

Believe it or not, the airport management still think that Ryanair will still be basing up to 6 aircraft at BOH within the next few years! This is despite every other sane person knowing that Ryanair are telling porky pies! They think that because Ryanair signed a contract they will deliver! Since when has a contarct meant anything to Ryanair?

Because of this, Ryanair, even though they have no aircraft there at present are still calling all the shots at the airport.

It appears that Thomson Airways are the sole remaining loyal customer that the airport has at BOH, and how are they rewarded. The airport brings in Thomas Cook next year, which will be offering almost exactly the same product as Thomson. Brilliant! So now they potentially have 2 half empty aircraft flying the same routes.

Eastern Airways, which is one of the customers the airport is trying to attract, divert in the other day. They are parked up on remote stands and the airport has no bus drivers (usually the firemen) to drive the pax to and from the terminal. Result-they are driven out to the a/c on the ambulift. This is hardly showing what a smooth operator the new £45 million airport is.

Also, when BHX was closed the other day, the airport turns away up to 10 diverts as they never had enough fire cover.

Until the airport gets the infrastructure in place alongside the nice new terminal, it will always be a Mickey Mouse village airport.

Just my twopenny's worth!
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Old 24th Nov 2010, 16:10
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I'm really suprised there will be no operators flying to either Heraklion and Larnaca.
Also Olympic Holidays will fly their customer on behalf of TOM out of BOH.

Lake of Garda will be underserved next summer, since both Palmair and Italian Getaways have pulled out.
Only 3 one-off departures with Newmarket Air Hols to Verona are planned.
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Old 24th Nov 2010, 18:19
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Totally agree with the last 2 posts

Its all very depressing

Newmarket in there defence still have the largest programme out of a regional airports with Naples on the up from Verona next year

Palmair will leave a huge gap that could be filled with Minorca , Funchal , Brescia and good old Palma still to be filled
Possibly Thomas Cook could come in and offer new seats using an Airbus A320 giving Palmair 90 seats which has always been there market and they could take the rest and sell through there companies

Thomas Cook have already chopped the Corfu route next year and thats less than 2 months since it went on sale ( no chance ) and Olympic holidays are still trying to get contract new airlines for there Heraklion and Larnaca routes next year , again always gone out full

I understand a marketing director has been sent down to shake things up so fingers crossed !
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Old 24th Nov 2010, 18:24
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I'm intrigued about the "up to 10 diversions from BHX" comment -why would they go to BOH when EMA, MAN, LBA, DSA & LPL available to choose from and would, presumably, be more convenient for the displaced passengers?
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Old 25th Nov 2010, 07:49
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It appears that Thomson Airways are the sole remaining loyal customer that the airport has at BOH, and how are they rewarded. The airport brings in Thomas Cook next year, which will be offering almost exactly the same product as Thomson. Brilliant! So now they potentially have 2 half empty aircraft flying the same routes.
What have you been smoking?! If Thomas Cook want to operate from BOH the airport CANNOT say "no, we don't want you". There licence does not allow this. Also, the airport did not "bring in" TC - TC decided themselves to operate from BOH.
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