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of a lot of J41 rotations. Gives you an idea of the potential.Join Date: Jul 2007
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"3 rotations a day on a SleazyJet 737 = a 
of a lot of J41 rotations. Gives you an idea of the potential.
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& thank goodness it will never happen! It's like comparing apples with pears, low cost operation vs. high cost operation on a short-haul domestic route will lose out. Plenty of examples already available e.g. FlyBe to Inverness from Birmingham & Manchester - routes which Eastern very nicely started up for them!
Given the economic downturn, Eastern's business developments in recent months has really seen them return back to their 'Oil' roots with the taking over of the Scatsta contract plus the new Oslo routes. Given their need for high yield & that the oil industry is just about the only industry left that still makes very high profits & is cash rich as well, I think you'll find Mr. Lake & his team have got it just right in not backing shorter haul domestic routes anymore.
of a lot of J41 rotations. Gives you an idea of the potential."& thank goodness it will never happen! It's like comparing apples with pears, low cost operation vs. high cost operation on a short-haul domestic route will lose out. Plenty of examples already available e.g. FlyBe to Inverness from Birmingham & Manchester - routes which Eastern very nicely started up for them!
Given the economic downturn, Eastern's business developments in recent months has really seen them return back to their 'Oil' roots with the taking over of the Scatsta contract plus the new Oslo routes. Given their need for high yield & that the oil industry is just about the only industry left that still makes very high profits & is cash rich as well, I think you'll find Mr. Lake & his team have got it just right in not backing shorter haul domestic routes anymore.
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I don't doubt that even the mighty oil industry is not immune to the economic downturn, but it's still in a lot better state than most businesses e.g. look at BP's recent results & profits!
So it's got to be good news for Eastern that they are on hand particularly in Aberdeen to capitalise on any opportunities that arise.
So it's got to be good news for Eastern that they are on hand particularly in Aberdeen to capitalise on any opportunities that arise.
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French domestic flights
Eastern Airways is planning to fly domestic french flights from Dijon airport
2 daily flights to Bordeaux and Toulouse on week days (less flights on the week end days)
A Jetstream 41 will be used and certainly based in Dijon
No more details will start "in summer" not yet bookable
press release (sorry only in french) Le projet d'aéroport permet de garder le moral
2 daily flights to Bordeaux and Toulouse on week days (less flights on the week end days)
A Jetstream 41 will be used and certainly based in Dijon
No more details will start "in summer" not yet bookable
press release (sorry only in french) Le projet d'aéroport permet de garder le moral
I think Easterns Scatsta operation might even expand given this news
"French oil giant Total announced last Friday they were to invest £2 billion in a pipeline to bring gas ashore to Sullom Voe"
Quote from The Shetland News
More info here
Sullom Voe safe for decades
And this
Large oil find close to Unst
ABERDEEN-based oil company Dana Petroleum announced yesterday (Tuesday) they had found a significant new oil field about 60 miles north east of Unst.
Large oil find close to Unst
"French oil giant Total announced last Friday they were to invest £2 billion in a pipeline to bring gas ashore to Sullom Voe"
Quote from The Shetland News
More info here
Sullom Voe safe for decades
And this
Large oil find close to Unst
ABERDEEN-based oil company Dana Petroleum announced yesterday (Tuesday) they had found a significant new oil field about 60 miles north east of Unst.
Large oil find close to Unst
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If I've understood the article correctly it is still subject to the result of an enquiry within 15 days (the text is dated 27th January) which presumably you are now quoting as a positive outcome from another source. Where did you get the flight & aircraft details from as they are not within this attachment?
It would certainly (if my memory serves me correctly) fit with a plan that Richard Lake has previously made public that he sees opportunities for growth within the internal boundaries of other EU countries.
Nothing yet on the Dijon Airport website about this one that I can see but I know they have certainly been working hard behind the scenes over the past couple of years to gain routes. The local Chamber of Commerce could also be giving financial support here as I seem to recall that in the past PSO routes were applied for ex Dijon but they don't appear on the current relevent EU Transport schedule.
The Dijon Airport website is also lobbying to re-establish a service to London, well within the range of Eastern's SAAB's I think, but unlikely to be anywhere near low cost in prices!
If I've understood the article correctly it is still subject to the result of an enquiry within 15 days (the text is dated 27th January) which presumably you are now quoting as a positive outcome from another source. Where did you get the flight & aircraft details from as they are not within this attachment?
It would certainly (if my memory serves me correctly) fit with a plan that Richard Lake has previously made public that he sees opportunities for growth within the internal boundaries of other EU countries.
Nothing yet on the Dijon Airport website about this one that I can see but I know they have certainly been working hard behind the scenes over the past couple of years to gain routes. The local Chamber of Commerce could also be giving financial support here as I seem to recall that in the past PSO routes were applied for ex Dijon but they don't appear on the current relevent EU Transport schedule.
The Dijon Airport website is also lobbying to re-establish a service to London, well within the range of Eastern's SAAB's I think, but unlikely to be anywhere near low cost in prices!
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I would think there is a very good chance Eastern will be given some form of local council aid given that they are very keen to promote more business in the Burgundy region & in particular increase use of the airport which currently just has a somewhat irregular use by charter flights.
Given that the pilots would mostly likely be seconded from a UK base to fly these routes then perhaps they will also get reduced price or even free accomodation paid for by the council. However french native speaking cabin crew (locally recruited) would I suspect be the council's preference perhaps as a trade-off here!
We will have to wait & see though when an official announcement is made - I've checked the CCI (Chamber of Commerce) website as well but can't find anything of direct relevence to this news.
Certainly according to the article funds are potentially being made available on the back of this to resurface Dijon's runway.
As for PSO's, I don't think so as it is not on the latest schedule published on 21st January.
Given that the pilots would mostly likely be seconded from a UK base to fly these routes then perhaps they will also get reduced price or even free accomodation paid for by the council. However french native speaking cabin crew (locally recruited) would I suspect be the council's preference perhaps as a trade-off here!
We will have to wait & see though when an official announcement is made - I've checked the CCI (Chamber of Commerce) website as well but can't find anything of direct relevence to this news.
Certainly according to the article funds are potentially being made available on the back of this to resurface Dijon's runway.
As for PSO's, I don't think so as it is not on the latest schedule published on 21st January.
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I think you will find that the 15 days mentioned is in relation to a petition supporting development of the airport, including runway inprovements to allow larger aircraft to operate from Dijon. I don't think it has any bearing on Eastern's plans.
I think you will find that the 15 days mentioned is in relation to a petition supporting development of the airport, including runway inprovements to allow larger aircraft to operate from Dijon. I don't think it has any bearing on Eastern's plans.
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Eastern Airways domestic french routes from Dijon would be PSO ones and at to day date announced by the airport (not yet official)
Yes the press release posted was a little bit confused as talking of various items
Eastern Airways domestic french routes from Dijon would be PSO ones and at to day date announced by the airport (not yet official)
Yes the press release posted was a little bit confused as talking of various items
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Interesting news re: the gas expansion as the Voe presently burns the gas off.
I am not sure in the long run if there will be an enormo increase in flights as there is now a degree of automation in the operation of the processing. However it is good and interesting news. As for the oil find; sadly for the Voe most oil is now pumped directly to Orkney as opposed to being stored here so we shall see.
However good news all round, and hopefully Eastern will have techs on site to deal with knackered Saabs unlike Flybe - as I was on a flight which turned back to Aberdeen yesterday due to a "technical fault" halfway through the flight...
There is an enormous rumpus going on at present after one of the councils investment arms gave £8m to upgrade Scatsta. I will try and find the relevant article in the Shetland Island Times.
I am not sure in the long run if there will be an enormo increase in flights as there is now a degree of automation in the operation of the processing. However it is good and interesting news. As for the oil find; sadly for the Voe most oil is now pumped directly to Orkney as opposed to being stored here so we shall see.
However good news all round, and hopefully Eastern will have techs on site to deal with knackered Saabs unlike Flybe - as I was on a flight which turned back to Aberdeen yesterday due to a "technical fault" halfway through the flight...
There is an enormous rumpus going on at present after one of the councils investment arms gave £8m to upgrade Scatsta. I will try and find the relevant article in the Shetland Island Times.
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The aircraft went to ABZ for technical support - makes sense to me!!!
Wish Eastern all the best with their proposed venture, right sized aircraft for the airport so hopefully will be a success.
Wish Eastern all the best with their proposed venture, right sized aircraft for the airport so hopefully will be a success.
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Proposed routes from Dijon Burgundy Airport
More information now available from the Burgundy Regional Development Council about the proposed routes from Dijon on the link below.
Translated version of http://www.bourgognedeveloppement.com/L-aeroport-regional-prend-son
2 aircraft to be based at the airport & run as a subsidiary company. Start date quoted (1st March!), although doesn't look possible as can't find any evidence of booking access.
Flyzen - you first brought this item to our attention, any idea why there is a delay in starting?
Future developments include other routes within France & service to England. As previously mentioned being strongly supported by the local Chamber of Commerce.
Let's hope it works for them.
Translated version of http://www.bourgognedeveloppement.com/L-aeroport-regional-prend-son
2 aircraft to be based at the airport & run as a subsidiary company. Start date quoted (1st March!), although doesn't look possible as can't find any evidence of booking access.
Flyzen - you first brought this item to our attention, any idea why there is a delay in starting?
Future developments include other routes within France & service to England. As previously mentioned being strongly supported by the local Chamber of Commerce.
Let's hope it works for them.
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Routes in France?
Having thought about this rumour further (Flyzen) the reason for the delay in starting up these routes in France (if indeed it is going happen -see comments below from Eastern!), is probably due to the "bureacracy" that the French are (in)famous for!
I worked there for about 6 months on secondment about 12 years ago & despite even then being in a 'computer age', the number of different depatrments & paperwork involved was 'mind boggling'!!!
Yesterday I emailed Eastern Customer Relations Dept. sending them a copy of the french website's report that I included in my previous posting & also enquired (assuming that the report was true) about the start-up date. Within less than an hour of sending my e-mail I received the following reply:-
Thank you for your enquiry.
Currently there are no immediate plans to extend further services in France. It would appear that any information you have received is purely speculation at this stage.
Any official announcement will be displayed on our website and we would kindly ask you to visit our website for regular updates.
Once again, thank you for taking the time to contact Eastern Airways.
Yours sincerely
Customer Relations| Eastern Airways
The initial comment that there are "no immediate plans" & followed in the next sentence by that the information is "purely speculation" would suggest to me that whilst there is 'no smoke without fire' they are certainly not ready yet to "officially" say anything more at this stage. Hence the reason for their comment "visit our website for any updates".
Well after all this is a "rumour" network!
I worked there for about 6 months on secondment about 12 years ago & despite even then being in a 'computer age', the number of different depatrments & paperwork involved was 'mind boggling'!!!
Yesterday I emailed Eastern Customer Relations Dept. sending them a copy of the french website's report that I included in my previous posting & also enquired (assuming that the report was true) about the start-up date. Within less than an hour of sending my e-mail I received the following reply:-
Thank you for your enquiry.
Currently there are no immediate plans to extend further services in France. It would appear that any information you have received is purely speculation at this stage.
Any official announcement will be displayed on our website and we would kindly ask you to visit our website for regular updates.
Once again, thank you for taking the time to contact Eastern Airways.
Yours sincerely
Customer Relations| Eastern Airways
The initial comment that there are "no immediate plans" & followed in the next sentence by that the information is "purely speculation" would suggest to me that whilst there is 'no smoke without fire' they are certainly not ready yet to "officially" say anything more at this stage. Hence the reason for their comment "visit our website for any updates".
Well after all this is a "rumour" network!