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Old 18th Apr 2012, 12:46
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Talking of a railway/ terminal link - any civil engineers care to estimate the cost of a tunnel between the two? I know a bridge would be cheaper but....!
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Surely it would be cheaper to relocate the terminal to the East side?
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Old 18th Apr 2012, 17:43
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Or cheaper still to have a very neat little branch line arrangement.
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Old 18th Apr 2012, 18:08
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East...West - which is best???

"Surely it would be cheaper to relocate the terminal to the East side?"

Where perhaps it should have stayed in the first place!
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Old 18th Apr 2012, 19:15
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You might be surprised to see how many tunnels already exist between east and west ! Anyone have access to any 1940's plans ?

Anyone know what the Jaguar is doing parked just north of the fireground ? Is there to be a gate Guardian when the AWPR link to the terminal is built or have the fire service invested in a more interesting fuselage to practice on ?
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"Surely it would be cheaper to relocate the terminal to the East side?"

Where perhaps it should have stayed in the first place!


Sumburgh, Aberdeen When will they learn???
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Old 19th Apr 2012, 17:46
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Don't forget the cycle way built at vast expense from the Airport into town - you cn hardly get moved on it for aircrew cycling into town at the end of a long hard day.......................
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Old 19th Apr 2012, 18:27
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You can always tell when the cyclist is a pilot...they're the ones with stabilisers on the bike...
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Old 22nd Apr 2012, 09:22
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Noticed that BA appear to have ended their codeshare with BE on the LGW route. Could Flybe be intending to end the route?
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Old 22nd Apr 2012, 09:28
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Dont believe BE are intending to drop the route as ABZLGW is fairly well used. It might have something to do with the rumoured closure of BA's LGW base- nothing other than a rumour but as we know sometimes these grapevine whispers do become a reality.

Having said that, it could just be that the number of passengers booking through BA are not as high as they wanted. I assume BA have to pay BE to codeshare??
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Old 22nd Apr 2012, 10:14
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On the codeshare BE receive most (if not all?) the fare paid on BA.com. BA will have code shared in the hope they would get some connecting pax.

Anyway the return flights on BA were always something ridiculous like £300 return.
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Old 24th Apr 2012, 23:32
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According to a article in the Scotsman. British Airways Cityflyer will launch a 3 x Daily service from it's LCY base to ABZ from 24th September.

BA floors rival as new Aberdeen-London City route announced - Transport - Scotsman.com

Timetable and flights not yet available to book will post when further info is available
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Old 25th Apr 2012, 07:30
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Good news for ABZ, presumably on an E170? I think this route this stands a better chance than previous LCY offerings because at the end of the day BA is far more well known than previous operators.

Could this also be the day BMI operate their last ABZ-LHR?
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Flights added but strangley the flight numbers are not starting BA8XXX. which the rest of the BACF flights do.

Aircraft will nightstop ABZ.


BA3291 ABZ 06:50 LCY 08:20 E70 x67
BA3295 ABZ 12:00 LCY 13:30 E70 x67
BA3297 ABZ 17:30 LCY 19:00 E70 x6

BA3292 LCY 08:50 ABZ 10:20 E70 x67
BA3296 LCY 15:25 ABZ 16:55 E70 x67
BA3298 LCY 19:30 ABZ 21:00 E70 x6
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Old 25th Apr 2012, 18:47
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Interesting news about BA & LCY today, & also the theories behind it's launch.

It was a route many businesses had said they wanted with offices in Aberdeen & Canary Wharf, & it last flew in 2001/early 2002, so hopefully with traffic on the up it will be well used - the BA name will undoubtedly help.

I too think it is partly to offset the loss of the bmi LHR rotations which will undoubtedly happen at the end of the summer if not earlier. The spokesman did say it would complement the existing BA offering to LHR, so I doubt if any BA's own rotations will be sacrificed.

Whether it puts off anyone from starting a competing LHR route remains to be seen. Will be fascinating to see whether SRB will put his words into deeds & uses any slots to an ABZ route...should he successfully bid of course.

Cityjet had said they were evaluating their own LCY service to ABZ but whether they will continue with this now CFE have announced their own service, I have my doubts that there would be sufficient traffic for both. However, they may still look to W12/13, having apparently been delayed from starting this summer due to restructuring.

For me, the nice relatively new E170 & the BA name will probably win the day on LCY.
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Old 25th Apr 2012, 19:31
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I think you've hit the nail on the head there Richard and brand awareness will win.

I think the reasons LCY hasn't worked in the past was due to it being a little stinking prop operated by a diddy airline up against fast jets down to LHR/LGW/LTN.
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Old 27th Apr 2012, 12:43
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bmi Regional

The news & views have fluctuated between good & bad, but hopefully today's story will see an ultimately positive conclusion for all concerned:

BBC News - BMI Regional sale talks advance

Just the start of course. Getting your hands on the airline is one thing. Operating it to make money perhaps quite another. But the guys behind 'Granite' (well two of the three) have experience in running Business Air which I always thought was a well tightly run airline; the other equally so with Brit World. However what do they say? To make a small fortune in aviation...start with a large one!!

Say the bmiR deal is successfully concluded in the next couple of weeks. What might we expect to see at ABZ going forward? Will the existing domestics to MAN & NWI be maintained? There had been initial talk of a new London service, which I took to mean STN. Will they keep on EBJ & GRQ - neither of which fill an Embraer, but both high yielding. In Europe, where else could they go with the Embraers, given they tried AMS, BRU & KRS with the E135/145, none of which were kept on.

Would be interested to hear other views - I wish the best for bmiR.
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Old 28th Apr 2012, 09:45
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Capt Dooney - one of the reasons is that the vast bulk of the Business Class/Full fare Economy passengers thru ABZ are oil field related- they are also regular travellers - 1-4 times a month is common

For historic reasons most of the oil companies where (and are) in W london and in the Reading - Guildford arc SW of London. thats where people live and that's where they travel to/from

International travelers to Houston, Dallas , etc want to interchange at LHR

City Airport is not convenient for any of these people and the finacial community are rare visitors to the Granite City
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Capt Dooney - one of the reasons is that the vast bulk of the Business Class/Full fare Economy passengers thru ABZ are oil field related- they are also regular travellers - 1-4 times a month is common

For historic reasons most of the oil companies were (and are) in W London and in the Reading - Guildford arc SW of London. that's where people live and that's where they travel to/from. Maybe only a couple of companies were based in Canary Wharf

International travelers to Houston, Dallas , etc want to interchange at LHR

City Airport is not convenient for any of these people and the finacial community are rare visitors to the Granite City
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Old 28th Apr 2012, 11:36
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Captain Dooney,

Stinking little props and Diddy airlines are still make money operating from Diddy little airports like Aberdeen
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