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Old 28th Oct 2007, 20:26
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Looks as if Wideroe's extra BGO flight arrives in ABZ at the unearthly early hour (for Abdn) of 0710Mon, having previously been thought (by me as well) to be a Sun evening arrival, the a/c nightstopping. Not so it seems.

Don't recall previously early Scandi arrivals being particularly successful. Air UK used to have a SVG arrival 0715 (F50) but I don't recall dealing with many pax in the short time I was there, whilst SAS also for one summer had a 0715 SVG arrival, DC9.

What about X9's own BGO flight? Any news on it getting off the ground any time soon? Still shows on their website.
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Old 28th Oct 2007, 21:27
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WIF n/s

I understand Wideroe does have a N/S on days 2-4 only not sure if it is BGO or SVG though?
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Old 28th Oct 2007, 23:18
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Any idea who owned the 146 that departed on Sunday afternoon? - thought it was one of the Flightlines but it had a red circular logo on the tail. With the FLT planes there was 4 146's on stand Sun afternoon.
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Don't quote me, but could have been an Orion air lease operating the be118 route to BHD
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Ryanair

Much cheapness....
ABZ-DUB
Total Cost of Flight 20.00 GBP
O/B Dec 8th, I/B Dec 10th
Question.
Would YOU risk the £20? (bearing in mind current handling firm vacates the premesis on the 7th)

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Old 29th Oct 2007, 13:33
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Q400/Wideroe

2-4 will be Stavanger.

With SAS withdrawing from using the type on their services, does this also apply to WIF - think it does?

Are they using the DH8C on ABZ instead, or canx those rotations that used the Delta?

I wonder if X9 & T3 may see an opportunity to nick some business off WIF, if they are having a/c availability problems.
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Yes it was Orion operating the Belfast for Flybe.
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Old 30th Oct 2007, 13:54
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Anyone any ideas on who might pick up Gatwick-Aberdeen when BA pull off at the end of the winter?
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Old 30th Oct 2007, 14:03
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When was this announced? Someone needs to tell BA as it's still bookable (!)
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It is being axed but the cancellation has not yet been announced or made public. Crying shame - must be one of the longest-established routes from Gatwick, dating back to Dan-Air days.
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Probably linked to the BA Houston service heading to Heathrow then.
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It is being axed but the cancellation has not yet been announced or made public. Crying shame - must be one of the longest-established routes from Gatwick, dating back to Dan-Air days.
... which often used to route ABZ-MAN-LGW, IIRC

If BA is stopping the service, it may well be to do with the 'oil' services consolidating at LHR as Skipness says. Also bear in mind that with the GB Airways franchise ending, BA have decided to re-launch services to FAO, AGP, etc etc from LGW and that hulls will be required to fly those routes.

Take the oil revenue connections from ABZ to LGW and move it to LHR and what does the ABZ-LGW route bring to corporate profitability? Let's face it, ABZ is a small rural town with not enough catchment area to be served by both LHR and LGW - which is also why it doesn't have a big network of destinations to anywhere. Aberdeen is smaller than Newcastle, and it lost its LGW flights about a year ago.

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Old 30th Oct 2007, 17:32
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All I am saying is that BA are a profit-orientated business, not a state-controlled and funded organisation.

Take the oil transfers from the LGW route and suddenly BA find that they can make more profit by redeploying the aircraft by flying to X, Y and Z. What is your problem? If the numbers warrant it, they may well end up sending A321's from LHR to ABZ, .... if not, why should they do anything? If there is profit to be mad by flying ABZ-LGW I'm sure someone (possibly with lower operating costs) will step into the gap.

In any business, capital is a limited resource; and as such has to deployed to best advantage.

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Old 30th Oct 2007, 20:28
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Wideroe will lose their Q400's as well as SAS, I understand that they will sub lease Coast Air for some sectors??
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Old 30th Oct 2007, 21:07
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Is this true that BA are pulling ABZ-LGW?? I booked flights last week for next April and also booked connecting flights from LGW to ZRH. I will be mega peed off if I cannot get to Gatwick as I have also booked 2 overnight stays at LGW for the start and end of the journeys!!
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It must be linked to the move of Houston to Heathrow. It looks as though ABZ-LHR stays as is, no change of aircraft from a mix of A319 and A320. Gatwick-Nice is also being axed.
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Probably not joking since 757s will probably be earmarked for 'Project Lauren' so you will only see most of these on the continent or in the USA and not doing the domestics!
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Wideroe are using the 300's, along with the Coast Air sub lease
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The BA 757's will not feature at T5 and they will move to T3 come April? 2008. The SH destinations served from T3 will be (from memory) HEL, MAD, BCN, NCE.

The reason is that the 757's have bulk loaded holds and they are not compatible with the baggage systems in T5. The A319's are being container enabled afaik prior to T5.

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Old 31st Oct 2007, 09:28
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Topbunk:

I am prepared to let the willy-waving drop, & get this thread back on track.

In that spirit, I have deleted all my posts. I hear what you say re business decision, I agree with you.

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