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Carnmanorlad any news on the new Irish base from your friend who works in Dublin
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I received a leaflet through the door today about the Tax Free shop. Their having an open evening tomoro night and the general public are welcome. It states that their prices are already 20% cheaper than the High Street but tomoro night theres another 20% off everything so basically 40% off High Street prices. No id required either! I believe its for people who want to make Mothers Day purchases etc. Anyone think they might go?
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Just seen the advert myself, it looks good! The font's nice but I'm not so keen on the people above it. Also good to see some online advertising and we might see it on the Journals website soon enough too!
Hopefully, they'll finally get around to updating their website as well, perhaps it'll change to this... Blackpool International - We offer an exciting range of UK and European destinations with both charter and scheduled flights.
I wouldn't hold my breathe for a base announcement either, NOC looks the obvious choice. But if we continue to prove ourselves by delivering the passenger numbers we might have our very own base soon enough.
I believe INV (Fourth city of Scotland with a similar pop) has a based E195 and Q400 from BE whilst only operating six routes out of there. With three daily flights to LGW operated by BE in competition with EZY on the route too. I bet we could sustain two!
Hopefully, they'll finally get around to updating their website as well, perhaps it'll change to this... Blackpool International - We offer an exciting range of UK and European destinations with both charter and scheduled flights.
I wouldn't hold my breathe for a base announcement either, NOC looks the obvious choice. But if we continue to prove ourselves by delivering the passenger numbers we might have our very own base soon enough.
I believe INV (Fourth city of Scotland with a similar pop) has a based E195 and Q400 from BE whilst only operating six routes out of there. With three daily flights to LGW operated by BE in competition with EZY on the route too. I bet we could sustain two!
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Yeah, surpirsingly similar to Exeter. What was wrong with the old logo?
Home – Exeter International Airport
Anyway just wait til Gregory sees it! First they called it City of Derry, now they've removed the orange person from the Exeter design and replaced them with a second green person.
Fifth. Glasgow (1 Million), Edinburgh (400K), Aberdeen (180K), Dundee (170K)
One if the ticket price is high enough 
Home – Exeter International Airport
Anyway just wait til Gregory sees it! First they called it City of Derry, now they've removed the orange person from the Exeter design and replaced them with a second green person.
I believe INV (Fourth city of Scotland ...
Just seen on the BHD thread that BE's Dash's can breakeven with just 12 passengers
Well, what Exeter, Blackpool and now CODA, have in common is Balfour Beatty. Obviously the rebrand is driven by them.
It'll look good if/when it changes. Furthermore, BE have a very strong relationship with BB, EXT being their home airport. Let's hope a word in the ear is given to BE and they start operating from LDY in earnest.
As for Inverness, the city has a population of ~56,000, around half that of Derry. However the airport has around 600,000 pax a year, give or take a few tens of thousands. It shows what could happen with the right marketing of LDY as a gateway to Donegal and also north Derry/Antrim coasts. (although INV has no direct competition.....ABZ is miles away!)
It'll look good if/when it changes. Furthermore, BE have a very strong relationship with BB, EXT being their home airport. Let's hope a word in the ear is given to BE and they start operating from LDY in earnest.
As for Inverness, the city has a population of ~56,000, around half that of Derry. However the airport has around 600,000 pax a year, give or take a few tens of thousands. It shows what could happen with the right marketing of LDY as a gateway to Donegal and also north Derry/Antrim coasts. (although INV has no direct competition.....ABZ is miles away!)
Northern Counties, can I just commend you on your excellent work on the Wiki page. Great stuff indeed. It's nice to see the page being updated, and accurately so.
A guess for pax numbers in 2011? I'd say, based on routes currently available: 395,500!
If I'm right, I won't be smug, I'll be delighted!
Cheers,
CU.
A guess for pax numbers in 2011? I'd say, based on routes currently available: 395,500!
If I'm right, I won't be smug, I'll be delighted!
Cheers,
CU.
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Hopefully, they'll finally get around to updating their website
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Northern Counties, can I just commend you on your excellent work on the Wiki page. Great stuff indeed. It's nice to see the page being updated, and accurately so.
Regarding the passenger numbers, I think you're in the right ball park, but it'd be great if we're both wrong and it's over 400k!
Guys go take a look at the newly designed website. I must say it looks pretty amazing and so eye-catching! Well overdue.
Excited to find out what the prize draw is all about and what the prices will be! Definately the best website of the three airports managed by BB!
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Jet2
I know it's been suggested once or twice on this thread before, but since we're hoping that Balfours relationship with BE at Exeter will help attract them into LDY, couldn't their relationship with Jet2 at Blackpool just as equally attract them as well.
The reasons I think this, is currently Blackpool is experiencing lower passenger numbers than LDY and according to Wikipedia as a similar runway length, and despite failing to support domestic routes like London etc. (The seasonal BFS being the exception) They managed to have attract a based Jet2 aircraft, flying to destinations such as Malaga, Majorca, TFS to name a few whilst also having bases all over northern England.
Could they not come into LDY and offer destinations currently in their portfolio such as: Gran Canaria, Lanzarote, Malaga, Ibiza, Reus and even a French or Italian route such as Milan.
Yes it would be a gamble, but if they can make it work at Blackpool, they can make it work at Derry. With 3 aircraft currently on order (again, according to Wikipedia) surely they could open a new base.
Or would pressure from FR on Jet2 and LDY prevent this from happening, or the fact that it could be detrimental to their BFS operation. What do yous think?
Edit - Just check flights from Blackpool and Derry to Faro on the same dates in July. Credit card fee's etc all in the final price would be just under £100 cheaper per person with Jet2 than Ryanair. Ryanairs final price for the flight being £242 whilst Jet2 were charging £146. Just thought this would be of interest for comparison. Jet2 might be able to give FR a run for their money!
The reasons I think this, is currently Blackpool is experiencing lower passenger numbers than LDY and according to Wikipedia as a similar runway length, and despite failing to support domestic routes like London etc. (The seasonal BFS being the exception) They managed to have attract a based Jet2 aircraft, flying to destinations such as Malaga, Majorca, TFS to name a few whilst also having bases all over northern England.
Could they not come into LDY and offer destinations currently in their portfolio such as: Gran Canaria, Lanzarote, Malaga, Ibiza, Reus and even a French or Italian route such as Milan.
Yes it would be a gamble, but if they can make it work at Blackpool, they can make it work at Derry. With 3 aircraft currently on order (again, according to Wikipedia) surely they could open a new base.
Or would pressure from FR on Jet2 and LDY prevent this from happening, or the fact that it could be detrimental to their BFS operation. What do yous think?
Edit - Just check flights from Blackpool and Derry to Faro on the same dates in July. Credit card fee's etc all in the final price would be just under £100 cheaper per person with Jet2 than Ryanair. Ryanairs final price for the flight being £242 whilst Jet2 were charging £146. Just thought this would be of interest for comparison. Jet2 might be able to give FR a run for their money!
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NC, Jet2 are happily plying their trade up at the Lough. I reckon the only way they'd ever come to LDY would be if they get squeezed significantly at their main bases. This however, may happen. With EZY adding routes out of BFS and FR expanding at LBA in recent times, then who knows? If they did come along, I agree that they would likely do sun routes. Didn't Slattery Sun do Lanzarote many moons ago? I think it was relatively successful, but if I remember correctly, they pulled it due to financial problems for the company.
As an aside, I have one criticism of the new website......where's the timetable gone? Trying to browse flight times on the FR website is a bollocks, and the timetable was much handier. Hopefully when it's complete we'll get it back.
As an aside, I have one criticism of the new website......where's the timetable gone? Trying to browse flight times on the FR website is a bollocks, and the timetable was much handier. Hopefully when it's complete we'll get it back.
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I heard the radio ad for CODA on Q102 yesterday. Im really glad Damien is going to town with press coverage for the Airport. It was short and sweet.
FAO had 156 PAX last night, really good 4 days into season?
FAO had 156 PAX last night, really good 4 days into season?
156 is a very healthy load for the second flight of the season. It's not even a Bank Holiday weekend. All routes out of LDY should de really well during the upcoming Bank Holiday weekends.
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Winter Route
I heard that RYR are really eager to try LDY with a Winter sun route but don't know whether to keep TFS as all year round or put AGP on for the Winter! Personally i think TFS should be kept because all this press coverage will build knowledge of the route and Tenerife would appeal to those who actually want to holiday by laying in the sun.
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I heard that RYR are really eager to try LDY with a Winter sun route but don't know whether to keep TFS as all year round or put AGP on for the Winter
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I went to Malaga from BFS in Dec 09 & 10 and i must say the weather was great both times but probably a tad unpredictable. The PAX nos on the flights wern't great bout 60 each way! I hope TFS does stay for the winter il certainly make use of it.
I agree with Amelia. The Mediterranean coast of Spain can get some shocking weather in the winter. Tenerife makes sense, and with its current schedule being just once a week, one would imagine it'd be easy to carry on into the winter.
I was just looking at the schedules for the summer, and before DUB is axed, there's ~2,500 seats available on Friday (that's ~10,000 a month, counting Friday's only!).
Would this be the most seats offered on a single day in LDY's history? Furthermore, can we expect the record (as far as I'm aware) set in August 2008 of 48,073 to be beaten?
I was just looking at the schedules for the summer, and before DUB is axed, there's ~2,500 seats available on Friday (that's ~10,000 a month, counting Friday's only!).
Would this be the most seats offered on a single day in LDY's history? Furthermore, can we expect the record (as far as I'm aware) set in August 2008 of 48,073 to be beaten?
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If my calculations are correct then there should be around 57,012 seats for sale in July 2011. I took into account RE only being there til July 21st. I also used an ATR42 for the calculations. So its gona be a crazy month for the airport!
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Fantastic news for the airport and a well deserved reward for the hard work of all the staff at LDY... yet with a figure in that region, they're going to be rewarded with even more hard operational work!
With Faro doing so well, and so early in the season, and with the larger offer of Sun routes from the airport, I think I can confidently say that we'll see high yields all round! Regarding the Winter route, this is fantastic too, and even if we pax numbers around the 60- 90 mark, I'm sure FR would rather this than the planes staying idol. Winter loads with 60-90 pax seem to be ok at other airports at that number. I would like to see a winter route though, correct me if I'm wrong but Ryanair hasn't seemed to take full advantage of this as of yet from anywhere?
Carn, did you go to that sale at the airport the other day? If so, was it good?
With Faro doing so well, and so early in the season, and with the larger offer of Sun routes from the airport, I think I can confidently say that we'll see high yields all round! Regarding the Winter route, this is fantastic too, and even if we pax numbers around the 60- 90 mark, I'm sure FR would rather this than the planes staying idol. Winter loads with 60-90 pax seem to be ok at other airports at that number. I would like to see a winter route though, correct me if I'm wrong but Ryanair hasn't seemed to take full advantage of this as of yet from anywhere?
Carn, did you go to that sale at the airport the other day? If so, was it good?