DERRY/LONDONDERRY
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Dublin
Age: 34
Posts: 601
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Do you think this is a sign of desperation or was it already in the plans for LDY?
Just checked the website and the amount of connections is now a bit ridiculous in my view. I wouldn't mind SOU and a connection to Milan which they serve from MAN but who would connect to Glasgow or EDI it wouldn't be worth the hassle.
Just checked the website and the amount of connections is now a bit ridiculous in my view. I wouldn't mind SOU and a connection to Milan which they serve from MAN but who would connect to Glasgow or EDI it wouldn't be worth the hassle.
I don't think it's desperation. If you have a look at BHD for instance, listing all possible connecting flights are listed. I think it's just the way BE set up their website.
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Dublin
Age: 34
Posts: 601
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Ah, I see. Just panicing that it could have been a bad sign is all...
Hopefully we'll see a connection to Milan, I think that could work... even if it brings just 50 extra passengers a month, thats still 50 extra passengers
Hopefully we'll see a connection to Milan, I think that could work... even if it brings just 50 extra passengers a month, thats still 50 extra passengers
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Derry
Posts: 485
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I don't care if Paris isn't direct (although of course I would prefer it to be), I'll still use it. I'm taking the kids to Disney and taking my parents-in-law to Paris as they've never been there before. I think it's great, just nip off for a weekend without all the hassle of getting to BFS.
I've haven't been in Paris for years but I'll definitely go this year.
In fact now that I remember I have previously flown from Derry to Paris with FlyBe. It was when they operated a feeder service via Belfast so it was Derry-Belfast-Birmingham-Paris-Birmingham-Belfast-Derry. So how's that? The price was right and the luggage was booked right through.
As for the other destinations, I'm not sure the Glasgow will do that great against a direct Ryanair Glasgow flight and it seems a bit odd to travel twice as far to get to Edinburgh but if the price is right and the journey time is less than travelling to Antrim or Belfast then why not? And Aberdeen and Inverness are more difficult to get to so why not avail of Derry indirectly.
Southampton (and Paris) don't seem as strange given that when you go first to Manchester at least you're heading in the right direction.
I've haven't been in Paris for years but I'll definitely go this year.
In fact now that I remember I have previously flown from Derry to Paris with FlyBe. It was when they operated a feeder service via Belfast so it was Derry-Belfast-Birmingham-Paris-Birmingham-Belfast-Derry. So how's that? The price was right and the luggage was booked right through.
As for the other destinations, I'm not sure the Glasgow will do that great against a direct Ryanair Glasgow flight and it seems a bit odd to travel twice as far to get to Edinburgh but if the price is right and the journey time is less than travelling to Antrim or Belfast then why not? And Aberdeen and Inverness are more difficult to get to so why not avail of Derry indirectly.
Southampton (and Paris) don't seem as strange given that when you go first to Manchester at least you're heading in the right direction.
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Londonderry
Posts: 252
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
LPL going to 6x weekly from May. Extra flight is operating on a tuesday which should up the pax numbers on what is a pretty quiet day for aircraft movements.
PIK also going to 6x weekly from May. Extra flight operating on Saturdays.
PIK also going to 6x weekly from May. Extra flight operating on Saturdays.
Although only being an extra four flights/week, this is great news, and a vote of confidence in LDY from RYR.
Added to the increase in capacity to Stansted, and the addition of Tenerife, during the peak months, LDY will have 10 (or thereabouts) extra movements a week, from RYR than last year (plus, ten a week LDY-MAN from BE).
Added to the increase in capacity to Stansted, and the addition of Tenerife, during the peak months, LDY will have 10 (or thereabouts) extra movements a week, from RYR than last year (plus, ten a week LDY-MAN from BE).
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: liverpool
Age: 56
Posts: 105
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
PARIS
I really cant understand why anyone would want to nip of to Paris for the weekend and fly from Londonderry via Manchester with kids,avoiding the hassle of getting to Bfs.Surely a 1 hour drive from the Londonderry area,parking up at Bfs and taking the direct 1 hour 10 minute easyJet flight is the less hassle free option,and cheaper too.With flybe puntuality will you make your connection and most importantly will your transfer bags make it also.I know which hassle free option id be taking,the direct flight.
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 379
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
The onward connections are nice to have but realistically are only there to top up the passenger numbers on the main route. I would guess that 90%+ of the time the direct flight from Belfast would win out but if the flights are going from MAN it's as well to offer them as you'll always pick up a few passengers here and there.
Now if they were offering fully integrated connectivity to the Air France network via MAN/CDG that could be a winner, but as of yet they are not.
Now if they were offering fully integrated connectivity to the Air France network via MAN/CDG that could be a winner, but as of yet they are not.
Mutley, when have you managed to drive from Derry to BFS in 1 hour? I assume it was the middle of the night, with you speeding.
Anyway, people may want to connect LDY-MAN-CDG because they want to support their local airport, or, like me, want to avoid BFS if they at all can.
Anyway, people may want to connect LDY-MAN-CDG because they want to support their local airport, or, like me, want to avoid BFS if they at all can.
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Co. Antrim UK
Posts: 742
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Mutley, when have you managed to drive from Derry to BFS in 1 hour? I assume it was the middle of the night, with you speeding.
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Dublin
Age: 34
Posts: 601
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Although only being an extra four flights/week, this is great news, and a vote of confidence in LDY from RYR.
Added to the increase in capacity to Stansted, and the addition of Tenerife, during the peak months, LDY will have 10 (or thereabouts) extra movements a week, from RYR than last year (plus, ten a week LDY-MAN from BE).
Added to the increase in capacity to Stansted, and the addition of Tenerife, during the peak months, LDY will have 10 (or thereabouts) extra movements a week, from RYR than last year (plus, ten a week LDY-MAN from BE).
Regarding the would people not rather fly from BFS than Derry. I say look at the fact 252 people per month choose BHD over BFS that also has a connection, ok the stop over is only 25-30 minutes but people made that choice and BHD is far closer to BFS than LDY.
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Solihull
Age: 60
Posts: 3,327
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
BHX
NorthernCounties
I think I posted last month that BHX had gaps for one of the four based
aircraft all summer. Well the Saturday daytime gap is filled with an extra Dublin from 21/5 but the Tuesday gap (5 hours 50) and the Thursday gap (4 hours) are still available. I have also noticed that after the PMI on a Saturday evening the aircraft does nothing and it is in by 18.40.
Perhaps LDY is under consideration, as it would fit in and give a daily service for summer once again. The gaps could be filled by several French & Irish routes but these either have competition or have failed before.
Pete
I think I posted last month that BHX had gaps for one of the four based
aircraft all summer. Well the Saturday daytime gap is filled with an extra Dublin from 21/5 but the Tuesday gap (5 hours 50) and the Thursday gap (4 hours) are still available. I have also noticed that after the PMI on a Saturday evening the aircraft does nothing and it is in by 18.40.
Perhaps LDY is under consideration, as it would fit in and give a daily service for summer once again. The gaps could be filled by several French & Irish routes but these either have competition or have failed before.
Pete
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Dublin
Age: 34
Posts: 601
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Ah, yeah I remember your post. I think that Derry really could be on the cards for one of those free slots. Naturally it would be nice to see Tuesday a bit more filled up, but if Thursday would deliver more passenger volumes that would be best.
I'm sure we'll hear something with the next couple of weeks anyway as O'Leary won't want to see the planes lingering about doing next to nout. Though Pete, I ask you as a Solihull resident, would you rather an extra rotation to LDY or a new twice/thrice weekly route to some other location?
One last point I'll make is, that PMI aircraft which wastes up to six hours of usable airtime, surely it could fit in a W rotation going BHX - PMI - LDY - PMI - BHX again. We've always been saying how that route would work out of Derry and one rotation a week would definitely be a safe way to test the market as TFS is going too. (Don't work, I don't have illusions that this will happen, be nice though!)
I'm sure we'll hear something with the next couple of weeks anyway as O'Leary won't want to see the planes lingering about doing next to nout. Though Pete, I ask you as a Solihull resident, would you rather an extra rotation to LDY or a new twice/thrice weekly route to some other location?
One last point I'll make is, that PMI aircraft which wastes up to six hours of usable airtime, surely it could fit in a W rotation going BHX - PMI - LDY - PMI - BHX again. We've always been saying how that route would work out of Derry and one rotation a week would definitely be a safe way to test the market as TFS is going too. (Don't work, I don't have illusions that this will happen, be nice though!)
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 207
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Nice idea but the flight duty period for those 4 sectors would be longer than is permitted by the IAA, therefore a BHX W pattern is a no go. A GRO, BCN or REU based A/C however would make this possible. PMI is still in the running to become a base so you never know LDY could see PMI one day.
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Derry
Posts: 485
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Surely a 1 hour drive from the Londonderry area,parking up at Bfs and taking the direct 1 hour 10 minute easyJet flight is the less hassle free option,and cheaper too
LDY-(MAN)-CDG on Friday 10th June back Mon 13th June is £114.
BFS-CDG return on same dates is £124.
Derry to LDY is £25 return in a taxi (or free if a friend or relative leaves you), Derry to BFS is at least £25 return in petrol (leaving aside additional mileage on car). But then you have 3 days parking at £21 in long stay car park.
Both flights arrive at 17:35, the LDY flight leaving at 12:50, the BFS flight leaving at 14:50.
But it takes 10 mins to get to LDY and 1 hour and 20 mins to get to BFS, then you need time to park, etc. BFS being larger, you also need more time to get through the terminal. LDY: leave the house at 12:00, arrive airport 12:10, 40 mins in terminal. BFS: leave house at 12:30, hope the traffic isn't bad, arrive airport at 13:50, park car, get into terminal 14:00, 50 mins at terminal.
There's not much of a difference, BFS perhaps shades it on time, LDY in this example working out £61 (or £86 if you get a lift) cheaper for a family of 4, other days the price differential may be reversed.
I suppose it all depends whether you prefer driving or being flown.