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Old 27th Oct 2011, 01:17
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is abu dhabi still on? there aren't enough a345's for LHR, JFK & AUH. Or is it?
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Old 27th Oct 2011, 12:57
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ARIKAIR FIRED 22 CREW MEMEBERS.
I heard arikair has fired 22 crew members, anybody with details.
From what I understood the CM's fired were 22 Cabin Crew including all or any pregnant cabin crew regardless of seniority. (monday/tuesday)

Previously, Arik "last month" sacked/downgraded 2 CCrew classes as well.
Those who were Downgraded, were done so to the option of becoming Ticketing Agents in ABV or Call Center/Ticketing in LOS.

Also in a seperate dept. Commercial Head K.S. and all others were sacked with the exception of 2 last week.

300 hundred plus (your definition here) employees still remain at Arik HQ. Walking around the compound greeting each other whilst trying to score a managment lunch.


PILOTS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY OF THIS***
except for maybe the pregnancy part
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Old 27th Oct 2011, 20:08
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Firing pregnant women is just wrong, this's a crime against women
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Old 28th Oct 2011, 05:52
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Is this 'normal' that people get sacked or are there any specific reasons for this clearout ?
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Old 28th Oct 2011, 07:22
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Airk Air president and 2 others arrested

Airk Air prez and several other senior managers arrested for what amounts to tax fraud:

OfficialWire: Travel: Arik Air President, Managing Director, 3 Others Arrested Over N170.13B Tax Money

Finally some fun reading regarding Arik Air and the loving senior management team we all respect and admire. Sometimes what goes around comes around.

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Old 28th Oct 2011, 14:51
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Well, then it's pay day for them, isn't it?
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Old 28th Oct 2011, 15:46
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Why was't FAT MAN jailed? I guess it's time to take out a loan on the Global Express to get his dumb ass kid out of jail.

The other guys, well, they're mostly pawns in the operation.

Hey "Whotzit", maybe you can get hired there and help them out?
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Old 28th Oct 2011, 18:30
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The more I see/read, the more I think I'll just let them get on with it and wish all those there a speedy exit to something better.
Curious to see what happens next...
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 11:41
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slowly snuffing out arik.

Interesting article regarding LHR routes.


UK Curbs Arik Operations to Heathrow, Articles | THISDAY LIVE
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 12:01
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What a pity...

If Arik could manage with Gatwick, what a difference that would make. Only Heathrow will do, though, and nobody else will just sort of give them some slots so that this must be British treachery undoing a noble Nigerian entrepreneur.

I guess nobody told this fellow, head of Nigeria's only international carrier, that there might be a problem getting Heathrow slots, when this must have come as a complete surprise to him.

If Gatwick is totally unacceptable then Arik's chairman might want to look into asking for approval for his new 747-800 to use London City Airport, just minutes away from downtown. I think LCY's a bit cramped for the A380 but the 747-800 might fit. Anyway, it never hurts to ask.
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 16:15
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I sent the link to the tax fraud article to a friend who has worked for many years in Nigeria and sees many positives to the place - something we disagree on but he knows the place and the people far better than I do.

This was his comment :

Thanks for the article about Arik and their tax problems.

There’s usually a way of sorting out tax problems in Nigeria. It was my job to pay the first tax bill for our company in Nigeria, after a startup tax holiday. The business had become profitable and the tax cheque was huge. I took it personally to the Chief Inspector of Taxes in the State Capital, expecting to be feted for doubling the state’s tax revenues. Instead he was angry that I hadn’t given him the opportunity of negotiating the bill downwards !

And I suspect that Arik will find that there is room for negotiation too !!!
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Old 1st Nov 2011, 15:46
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Question

Did any of the arrested guys show up at work today?
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Old 3rd Nov 2011, 18:53
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FG Slashes BA's Flights to Nigeria

In what is considered a retaliatory move, the Federal Government has slashed British Airways’ (BA) flights to Lagos from seven times a week to three, with effect from Tuesday, November 8.

Before the flight reduction, the United Kingdom national carrier, which has operated into Nigeria for over 75 years, was flying seven times weekly to Lagos and same number of times to Abuja.

The Ministry of Aviation, Nigeria Civil Aviation Authority (NCAA) and Federal Airports Authority of Nigeria (FAAN) confirmed the directive given to BA.

The Federal Government’s decision to slash the frequency of the airline to the Murtala Muhammed International Airport (MMIA), Lagos, is not unconnected with the forced suspension of Arik Air flights to London Heathrow from Abuja by UK’s Airport Coordination Limited (ACL) which denied the Nigerian airline the landing slots it requested.

This is the second time BA has run into a storm with Nigerian authorities, the first being when the military government under Gen. Sani Abacha banned the airline from flying into the country in the heat of British opposition to his government in 1996.

With the latest directive, BA’s landing and take-off times for the airline have also been rescheduled. Instead of landing at about 5.30pm and taking off at about 10.45pm, the airline will now arrive Lagos at 6.00am and leave at 10.00am.

This will adversely affect the airline’s passengers’ connectivity in Europe as they will have to wait for long hours at Heathrow before connecting to their final destinations.

In a statement, BA said that it was doing everything possible to resolve the issue, adding that the matter was now in the hands of its home government.


“We are doing all we can to resolve this issue. The matter is now in the hands of the British Government which is speaking with the Nigerian authorities. At the moment, all flights are scheduled to operate as planned and we will keep our customers informed if there are any changes to their flights,” it said.

In the Bilateral Air Service Agreement (BASA), which Nigeria signed with the government of Britain, both countries agreed that airlines from the UK would fly 21 times to Nigeria and vice-versa.

But while UK has British Airways and Virgin Atlantic which fully utilise these frequencies, Nigeria has only Arik Air that utilises 14 frequencies only as the airline operates from Lagos to Heathrow and from Abuja to Heathrow seven times a week each.

BA does the same from both Abuja and Lagos for the same number of flights, while Virgin Atlantic flies to Heathrow from Lagos seven times a week.


The Chairman of Arik Air, Sir Joseph Arumemi Ikhide, explained to newsmen last week that the BASA signed between the two countries was only beneficial to British carriers.

He recalled that during the signing of the agreement years ago, both governments agreed to assist airlines owned by both countries that wished to fly into each other’s airspace.

But while British carriers freely come into Nigeria without hindrances, Arik Air, the only Nigerian airline that operate into Britain, faced impediments, including the denial of slot to land at Heathrow.

Ikhide lamented that when it was time for them to fly from Abuja to London, the British government told them that there were no slots and that at that point, the airline had to rent slots from the British Midland International (BMI) at £1.4 million between 2009 and 2010, disclosing that the airline paid an initial deposit of £600,000.

He further explained that the airline paid £52,250 monthly to BMI and after the expiration of that, the company increased it to £90,000 per month and that when the airline tried to negotiate the amount, BMI refused to shift ground and later ACL, which gives slots, said that there was no more slots.

When Arik insisted, ACL gave out uncoordinated slots to Arik Air which were not good for scheduled flight operations, thus frustrating the airline out of the route.
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Old 3rd Nov 2011, 19:47
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Crazy

Is Arik now owned by the FG? It looks like they got bailed out by Amcon. Why don't they BUY the slots at LHR for Arik rather than whinge? Every other airline - including BA - can only expand at LHR by buying slots as it's at 99% capacity. At least they can be sold on for a profit when Arik finally folds.

This action to restrict BA will end in tears for Arik.

I heard already UK suppliers to Arik are now demanding overdue bills paid immediately and any new transactions cash up front. They are worried UK Govt. will cancel the BASA and stop Arik operating into UK and then move to ban them from EU...

BA and VS can make money on other routes. Arik only makes money on London and that is in peak seasons only.

Believe me Arik needs London much more than BA / VS need LOS or ABV. Nigerians will suffer in the short and long term with higher fares and $$$$$$$$$$ spent on further bailouts.


Anyone else heard any more news?
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Old 3rd Nov 2011, 21:47
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Arik does not need London...Arik makes zero money on London..and that is the only destination they have in the EU...there are no grounds to not allow Arik into EU Airspace so dont talk rubbish, The Arik Lagos-Heathrow flight is operated by HI-FLY a Portuguese EU JAA Member state and the aircraft are registered on their AOC under Portuguese registration so how are the UK going to get an EU JAA airline banned in Europe ????
For BA the Heathrow-Lagos route is the most profitable route the airline has in the history of their entire operation..and I bet it works out pretty well for Virgin also. The Heathrow-Lagos is gold for BA..sending a 747 full on a 6 hour flight and then back full the same day...do the maths...the same for Virgin using an A340-600 which is a 17-19 hour long haul aircraft on a 6 hour flight full is gold.....Full economy....full business class......cargo in the holds.....then charge all the Nigerians excess baggage charges as they travel heavy..and then sell £1000`s of Duty free chocolate and gifts on board during the flight.

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Old 4th Nov 2011, 09:09
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So when Arik is flying the same route as BA's "most profitable route the airline has in the history of their entire operation" and still loseing big $, they are doing it wrong!

How will they ever make money?


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Old 4th Nov 2011, 11:12
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wrong aircraft, wet lease arrangement with HiFly, poor product, no codeshares/interline agreements from LHR, no incentive to use the flights.
Economy is usually busy at times, Business is usually empty. On BA and VA its usually Business class filling up first.

Now that BA is buying bmi, they should have some extra slots at LHR to throw in the direction of Arik, BA777 v Arik B737NG for Abuja to LHR, which would you choose ?
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"This action to restrict BA will end in tears for Arik.

I heard already UK suppliers to Arik are now demanding overdue bills paid immediately and any new transactions cash up front. They are worried UK Govt. will cancel the BASA and stop Arik operating into UK and then move to ban them from EU...

BA and VS can make money on other routes. Arik only makes money on London and that is in peak seasons only.

Believe me Arik needs London much more than BA / VS need LOS or ABV. Nigerians will suffer in the short and long term with higher fares and $$$$$$$$$$ spent on further bailouts. "


Are you serious. Are they serious. All that will do is escalate the whole issue believe me, that is not the way to go about the current palava my friend. This is the wrong mentality. This belief by some foreign airlines like BA of how we dont need to come here and we doing you a favor by coming to lagos and all that is so wrong I think blabla blaaaaa made that point clear and I agree with him cos I have experienced this for years with this airlines and their Bad Atitude.

Banning Arik from the EU..... Well lets see who suffers from that and believe me its not Arik that will groan about it and the Nigerian flying public will get to their destinations.

Lets be honest and try not to politicise this problem but look at how to put in a better policy for both countries.
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Old 4th Nov 2011, 14:47
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Think the salient point here ,as claimed by blablabla at least, is that the route is a gold-mine for BA & VS, but Arik make no money on it.

Is it too simplistic to ask then, why do they bother operating the route ? as they are so able to lose money so proficiently, perhaps the obvious solution would be to give up the expensive wet lease & concentrate on routes that they feel might make money.

Or is that too complicated for the "Emirates of Africa" to understand ?

Just because there is a bi-lateral agreement between UK & Nigeria, doesn't mean that anyone who can afford (& pay for) slots, should have to give them to these jokers. The UK is not simply LHR.
Doubt if there are any capacity problems to accomodate BA/VS in Lagos, so you are comparing apples with oranges here.
If you insist on operating into one of the busiest hubs/international airports in Europe, why do you think, as a relatively young upstart airline, you should be magically gifted some "grandfather rights" on slots that you never held/paid for ?
That is not what a bilateral agreement is about, not between any countries.
You front up & pay, like everyone else, or you take your business to A.N.Other airport.
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Old 4th Nov 2011, 15:39
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from 52K per month to 90K to free ?

I like this bit of the story !

"Arumemi-Ikhide disclosed that the airline paid an initial deposit of £600,000.

He further explained that the airline paid £52,250 monthly to BMI and after the expiration of that, the company increased it from £52,250 monthly to £90,000 per month and that when the airline tried to negotiate the amount, BMI refused to shift ground and later Airport Coordination Limited (ACL), which gives slots said that there was no more slots."

When the haggling stops and the politicians take over, then its time to sell the company.. (that's bmi not Arik)...
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