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Old 30th Apr 2011, 17:03
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Is this really happening? I can't imagine so many people complaining about lack of pay yet they are still "working". You might as well consider yourself a volunteer and save yourself the energy of coming here to complain about lack of pay.
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Old 30th Apr 2011, 17:19
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Publish the names

In Favor of a Blacklist...(company B*tch list)

Anyone fancy a quick webpage blacklist?
A little list of all who are (expatriates) actively flying while unpaid?
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Old 30th Apr 2011, 19:45
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737 Capt salary?

What is the salary that Arik pays for the 737 contract Captains?
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Old 30th Apr 2011, 20:41
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Ggggggaaarbage

They DON'T get paid. (read the above)
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Old 30th Apr 2011, 22:24
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Returning expats

For sure guys with low hours/newly upgraded captains who desperately wants their 500 command hrs will return from their rotation but I will not be returning for sure. And I will take this matter to the authority in UK. Just feel sorry for my friends who are stuck there and desperately wants to get the hell out of there. Wish I could take them out! Luckily I never trusted them and was actively looking elsewhere, sadly just lost two months of salry and three months of local allowances. I finally learnt the meaning of slavery. Meet you guys somewhere else of this planet earth other than Lagos!

Adios!
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Old 1st May 2011, 11:22
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Well said, I hear a lot of pilots running their traps about not working after this day and that, and blowing a lot of steam but 8 hours later the same people are in their monkey suits heading out to fly and saying I will give them until next week Tuesday or Friday. I also hear a lot of guys who are on rotation at home trying to instigate work stoppage but I know the same suckers would be out flying if they were here. It's a dog eat dog world, every man for himself, lot's of barking and no bite.
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Old 1st May 2011, 22:43
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I also hear a lot of guys who are on rotation at home trying to instigate work stoppage but I know the same suckers would be out flying if they were here. It's a dog eat dog world, every man for himself, lot's of barking and no bite.

Even if they did stop, there would be an endless stream of new pilots continuing to show up and fly non-paid work, to wit:


>>>>What is the salary that Arik pays for the 737 contract Captains?<<<<


Until the world pilot economy improves to the point that Arik can't find pilots at any price, it will be business as usual (without pay) until the company ceases operations.
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Old 2nd May 2011, 01:31
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Come to arik

Honestly...it's a bunch of "lame A**" excuses from a "Lame A**" Pilot group. I can not even use the term "group" because someone would say something just like the quote below. Something to reiterate the fact why it is the most hopeless place where no one and I mean no one gives two SHts about self respect. Fly to your hearts content...and to the point you can't even afford to front the company for your ticket costs home.


Well said, I hear a lot of pilots running their traps about not working after this day and that, and blowing a lot of steam but 8 hours later the same people are in their monkey suits heading out to fly and saying I will give them until next week Tuesday or Friday. I also hear a lot of guys who are on rotation at home trying to instigate work stoppage but I know the same suckers would be out flying if they were here. It's a dog eat dog world, every man for himself, lot's of barking and no bite.
I hope management reads this Load of Cr*p on the 32 pages of useless banter and realizes they have all of these POS's by the Nuts. (inclusive)
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Old 5th May 2011, 15:57
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Angry

A whole of crap,Look whos talking with assurances like hes Mr fix it himself,Hey bro you sound like someones who is in search for recognition,This is the 1st time in so many years that a pprune post is carrying such wanton identification,Congratulations on your new attained rank,Many have been there who swore on their fathers graves that Mr Bigstuff would bring the moon down but alas they all left frustrated.It beats me that you have now become the yeoman for your poor chairman Mr Johnson,how very sad a proffessional pilot becoming a mouthpiece,what happened to the HR guys?have they left for lack of salary too?Well Mr Toks I pity your condition,I feel like crying on your behalf.Please it would be better for you to communicate with your subjects via company mail, thats if your coy has one thats functional.Shame on you and the people you represent.Please next time keep your linen protected,not for public consumption pprune.I hope you know what pprune stands for?Eish
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Old 5th May 2011, 16:10
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No cause for alarm... that your salary is months late with zero communication. Note that he didn't say who he was referring to; Mr Fat Ass. Why should he be alarmed when you keep strolling in FOR FREE.

Then, when push comes to shove, the (grossly late) quaint email to explain it all away (but not even bother to suggest being paid timely) and you'll keep flying airplanes.

Throw a bit money out now, and they can go three or four months next time. You'll work !!!
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Old 5th May 2011, 19:30
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Don't know if this has been posted before, but a tongue-in-cheek summary of the problems at Arik.

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Old 6th May 2011, 15:54
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Salary

I see the chief pilot has deleted his post about paying salary by Friday the 5th of June for the March. I haven't recieved anything yet, has anyone else received their salary yet? Not that I believed him anyway.
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Old 6th May 2011, 18:15
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If there was any intention of paying the salary they would have paid it. Why does there need to be a meeting or a discussion about it or more lies from London about how there was a problem with the banks ? Your salary is not in your account for one simple reason they have not sent it and have no intention of doing so.
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Old 6th May 2011, 18:22
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the saga continues but not much longer...

I noticed that too - but do not blame the messenger he was "told" that on MON and waited till WED to post (his words) then when that did not happen he deleted on FRI, Mr. J got an extra 5 days of flying from some . Bottom line this deliema will continue until people stop flying - simple - realize you will never receive all what is owed to you and move on or continue in frustration either way it is your choice - good luck all - wish the best.
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Old 6th May 2011, 18:31
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Your salary is not in your account for one simple reason they have not sent it and have no intention of doing so.

True. When the Airbus A330 was taken away for lack of payments, what did your management tell you? "It will be here Monday, don't worry".

Last summer, when the payment issues became more acute, what did the stupid kid tell you from London? "Your pay is late because of bank issues, don't worry".

If there was a significant amount of pilots who stopped working, you'd get attention. I don't think you'll get paid, or even save the company from failure. But, you won't be working for free, either.

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Old 6th May 2011, 21:35
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A Plan to Get Your Pay - Possibly?

Demurren of NCAA fame has made it quite clear that all airlines are supposed to pay their bills - especially with reference to the Bellview/ First Nation and Eurocontrol fees debacle.

Would any 'expat' pilots at Arik have the courage and / or contacts to action the following AND would it work?

The 737NG drivers could all agree that after the next promised payday - is it 15 May 2011 or sooner? - if no money is received that all the drivers flying to 'safe' international destinations e.g. LHR, JNB, ACC etc develop nasty illnesse down route just as they are due to fly back to LOS/ ABV. So flight canx and stranded in UK / SA / GH, then the next operating crewing do likewise the next day and so on so now inbound flights to Nigeria.

I'm sure a friendly doctor can be sourced to supply relevant paperwork to cover them and maintain pay and board at Arik's expense. Then through independent channels -Arik Management are told to pay all pilots and ground staff, once pay has been received and is up to date - even up to end of May as a gesture (LOL), pilots will miraculously recover.

You could even get pilots in LOS to 'volunteer' to be flown out to pick up planes and then they could do likewise with the mysterious illness down route...

To ensure no contract crew fly the planes back, I'm sure you could use local Sim Centre Training contacts and even local pilot unions to put word out to steer clear.

I reckon it would take a week to 10 days and 2 x 737NG parked in LHR and 2 in JNB and it would work.

Pilots stuck in NG could also start to snag every problem they can to delay all other flights and declare as many 'no fly' situations as possible.

The national embarassment would force them to pay you.

Don't leave it too long for co-ordinated action, the longer you leave it the less chance you have of getting anything. There should be so hard currency in London after the Easter rush to pay the salaries, get yours before the other suppliers shout for theirs.

THEN GET OUT FOR REAL! (fully paid up) with references untarnished
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Old 7th May 2011, 22:41
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Angry STRIKE

No money : Strike - a judge can block the plane outside the country - and send email to newspapers in nigeria and all around the world. Workers have famillies who are waiting $$$ for eating...
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Old 8th May 2011, 04:45
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Nice try guys, the pilot group just missed a bloody good opportunity to set things straight regarding the consistent late pay.
They all chickened out and big J played a fast one on them. This crap will continue now he knows the pilots are clowns who cann't stand up for themselves.
Too many "girly men" strolling around acting like they are men, but we all know what they are.
I duff my hat to big J, he is the quintessential manipulator.
Be safe out there
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Old 8th May 2011, 09:30
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I heard a Capt was fired because he refused to fly after being owned two months salary. What's happening? i think somebody needs to sue Arik for a billion Dollars for some of the actions they take on crew.
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Old 9th May 2011, 04:29
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Exclamation

I heard a Capt was fired because he refused to fly after being owned two months salary.

Not surprising. Think of it as a shot across the bow of the pilot "boat". The management reads this forum, they hear rumours. They can't pay you, but they can't have mutiny either.

Fire one, and any of the rest even thinking of not working for free will be afraid enough... to keep working for free.

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