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Old 17th Jul 2014, 11:34
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Ukraine says jet shot down by missile from Russian planeSecond plane allegedly hit by missile fired by pro-Russian militants on the ground

An air force fighter jet has been shot down by an air-to-air missile fired from a Russian plane, a spokesman for Ukraine's Security Council said Thursday.

Andrei Lysenko also said Ukrainian troops had been fired upon by missiles from a village just inside Russia. Lysenko said in a televised briefing that the pilot of the Sukhoi-25 jet that was hit on Wednesday evening was forced to bail out after his jet was shot down. He provided no further details.

Pro-Russia rebels, meanwhile, claimed responsibility for strikes Wednesday on two Ukrainian Sukhoi-25 jets. The Defence Ministry said the second jet was hit by a portable surface-to-air missile, but added the pilot was unscathed and managed to land his plane safely......

On Monday, Ukraine said one of its military transport planes carrying eight people was shot down by a missile fired from Russian territory. Security Service chief Valentyn Nalyvaichenko said he had "unconditional evidence" that Russia was involved in downing the craft. Rebels claimed to have shot that plane down.......
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Korean Air Lines Flight 007. Here we go again.....
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Defense News: NATO: Number of Russian Troops on Ukraine Border Rising

U.S. Officials: Images Prove Russia Fired Into Ukraine
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Interest Rises in EU Acquisition of Mistrals Sold to Russia

PARIS — The idea that the European Union — not Russia — would acquire two French Mistral-class helicopter carriers already sold to Moscow is gaining ground as the West adopted a ban against future arms deals to Russia, and the energy and financial sectors, analysts said......
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To be called QE and PoW?.........hat, coat.............Maybe "Sarkozy" and "Allende" or "Merkel"! (Or even "Dave"!)
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Old 2nd Aug 2014, 22:33
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How about the EU then donate one to the UN then they can be called the Costa Concordia and the Titanic.
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Old 3rd Aug 2014, 07:34
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Most dangerous month now upon us.

For a variety of historical and practical reasons I always think of August as the most dangerous of months for modern mankind. And now its upon us. Hundreds are now dead from this conflict already, with further savage fighting now imminent. An entirely neutral airliner has been blasted from the sky, its occupants savagely killed and many of them left to rot on the ground.
I truly hope and pray the worlds political and military leaders can get their collective heads together and bring a peaceful solution to this here and now.
And with the latest mad comments about Russia from our Conservative Party leader(s), I pray for peace every day.
But as I thought earlier in the year, this is going to end in disaster because we simply are not up to it. We are not up to collectively keeping the peace in the world. We, collectively as a species just don't try hard enough at it.
Enjoy the relative peace and calm while you all can.
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Old 3rd Aug 2014, 08:18
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And with the latest mad comments about Russia from our Conservative Party leader(s)
Its all talk and no action, Putin just laughs at it. What is really needed is a coalition western task force of a 100000 troops or so, and armor with the usual assortmant of aircover to go in and "conduct exercises" at the invitation of the Ukraine. Now that would wipe the smile of Vlad's face.
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Its all talk and no action, Putin just laughs at it. What is really needed is a coalition western task force of a 100000 troops or so, and armor with the usual assortmant of aircover to go in and "conduct exercises" at the invitation of the Ukraine. Now that would wipe the smile of Vlad's face.
And he wouldn't be pissing himself laughing at the couple of years to put that lot together.
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At least we'd have the Germans to give is directions back to Berlin..
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100,000 troops to exercise in Ukraine.? In what way would that serve our national interest? Why not get Angela to stage a Barbarossa rerun while we're at it.
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The Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity : Why Won?t Obama Just Leave Ukraine Alone?
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Old 4th Aug 2014, 00:56
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Your link might as well be named bat sh!t crazy institute.

Every time Ron Paul opens his mouth WRT international affairs, I dislike him more.
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In what way would that serve our national interest?
Probably the same way that the pollys are just coming to the conclusion that Russia is still a threat, and they have dropped the ball. So we can stick our heads up our @rse just like we have done before and say, okay not our problem, until it happens to another, opps, then another, then we are forced into it.

It always starts out small, nip the fire in the butt whilst its small, just be very careful about what your throwing on it.
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RR, posting links to half-wits Ron Paul and (previously) to Nigel Farage does not in any away further your 'argument' with regards to Putin and Ukraine.
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West Coast, Ron Paul is a genius. If he or someone like him could get elected as President we might at last get a more logical approach to the problems of the world from Washington. As things stand now the politicians in Washington are the worlds worst rogue regime.


rh200, if the Russians want to take back all that was theirs until around 1990 then I really don't see the problem. Besides they are really acting to stop continued expansion into their sphere of influence. Right now we are talking about an area of land that was actually part of Russia less than a hundred years ago, many of the people wish they were part of Russia now. Maybe not legal BUT hardly the crime of the century, guess that would be Iraq with Libya being number two. You can't blame Moscow for either of those but Washington and London for the first, Washington, London and Paris for the second. You need to take a different view as to who the most dangerous governments are.
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Mel, they are the best politicians in the west. Do you prefer Blair, Brown, Cameron, Hague, Clegg or Milliband?
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Over 400 Ukrainian soldiers flee to Russia, ask for refuge - YouTube
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That RR seems to like Nige is a big black mark on Nige.
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