Network EBA
That's just plain bullcrap. A steady stream of pilots is moving across to mainline from Network regularly. Why do you think people should join Rex or go to a GA company for even less money and worse conditions than the ones you reckon are so bad at Network?
Go ask those network pilots moving across when they first put their applications in.
Then throw in that from the moment you join a subsidiary like NAA there is an 18 month window before you can either apply or interview. (Someone else can clarify this).
Internals get held. Especially captains or check and trainers. Anyone who is in short supply will get trickled out.
Externals from Rex, VA etc have jumped hundreds of internals. I’ve seen one person leave Q Group and go elsewhere, and then reapply for QF and jumped all their internal former work colleagues by as much as two years for a QF start.
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You can join NAA, get two year’s experience to become competitive, get on the hold and wait another five years - total seven years.
Or you can go to Rex, do two years on the SAAB, get on the external hold, and start a month later.
I 100% stand by my comment. If you want to get into mainline, joining a subsidiary is a really crap and slow way to go about it.
Oh and if you get on the internal hold while at NAA/Link/NJS and decide to resign to speed things up, your hold file spot gets binned and you have to start the entire process again with no guarantees. It’s a gamble most aren’t willing to take, and it allows the group to trap people into subsidiaries.
Of course, that whole equation changes (for pilots and for Qantas attracting and retaining pilots) if they pay subsidiaries better rather than treating them like third class citizens. Suddenly people might see value in joining a subsidiary.
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Freedom and control over your career. It has always been the case forever. You can't tell me that if Network get really tight for pilots to the point of flight cancellations and you have a Mainline start date that you will be on that course. Now do you think that will do that to a Virgin, REX, GA or International applicant?
Nothing like being wrong to get someone to stfu.
At least one of the Links has one individual with his hands on the ‘who goes to mainline’ lever, and due to a forecast huge increase in pilot number, the lever is firmly in the no position. It hasn’t occurred to them or QF that retention requires something attractive about the job, not continual disappointment. If you ever want to work for mainline, except for a tiny few who have made it through via a subsidiary, don’t work for any of the group airlines.
Keep pushing!
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At least one of the Links has one individual with his hands on the ‘who goes to mainline’ lever, and due to a forecast huge increase in pilot number, the lever is firmly in the no position. It hasn’t occurred to them or QF that retention requires something attractive about the job, not continual disappointment. If you ever want to work for mainline, except for a tiny few who have made it through via a subsidiary, don’t work for any of the group airlines.
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Not really. Member feedback is still being sorted then will be given to the company from which they will probably bless us with a position statement. Not sure how this further lengthy delay is affecting the business or staff retention but it’s probably not been favourable.
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VARA New EBA Just Approved by FWA
Hi
Vara new EBA (which covers the A320/F100/B737) just signed and approved last week with FWA with substantial boosts in allowances (RDO payments which includes a RDO payments plus minimum of 4 hours productivity rate or the greater of the actual hours flown/productivity hourly rate outside the buffer/productivity hourly rate/Roster Overtime hour rate kicks in and lowered to 57.5 hours for a 4 week roster) and Salary boost with backpay and a Sign-On bonus .
And new agreement negotiations starting again shortly next month
Cheers
Buddy
Vara new EBA (which covers the A320/F100/B737) just signed and approved last week with FWA with substantial boosts in allowances (RDO payments which includes a RDO payments plus minimum of 4 hours productivity rate or the greater of the actual hours flown/productivity hourly rate outside the buffer/productivity hourly rate/Roster Overtime hour rate kicks in and lowered to 57.5 hours for a 4 week roster) and Salary boost with backpay and a Sign-On bonus .
And new agreement negotiations starting again shortly next month
Cheers
Buddy
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Latest FO job advert dropped today.
Requirements are laughable.
Requirements are laughable.
As a First Officer with Network Aviation, you’ll have;
- A minimum of 500 hours total aeronautical experience
- An Australian ATPL (A) or an Australian CPL (A) with passes in all Australian ATPL Theory subjects
- Australian Multi-Engine Aeroplane Instrument Rating with IAP 2D and 3D endorsements
- Multi-crew Cooperation Course (MCC) or experience in a multi-crew operation
- A current CASA Class 1 Medical
- ICAO English Language Proficiency Level 6 on your CASA Licence
- The ability to pass a Qantas pre-employment medical and drug and alcohol test
- The ability to hold an Aviation Security Identification Card (ASIC)
- A current passport with unrestricted access to all Qantas ports of call with at least 12 months validity
- Australian citizenship or the right to work in Australia / New Zealand without restriction or sponsorship
Didn’t they just drop to 750hrs TT? I can’t see how the drop to 500hrs is going to help widen the pool, it’s like they were taking charter pilots or instructors with less than a year’s operational experience and now requiring 3 months less than that.
It would also open the door for ex military pilots, mostly low hours.
Five hundred hours is a great deal more than most FOs start their first jet job with in Europe and UK. Probably SE Asia as well.
Five hundred hours is a great deal more than most FOs start their first jet job with in Europe and UK. Probably SE Asia as well.
Imagine how stupid the 43% of yes voters feel now.
You network pilots hold the power and almost half of you are giving in and afraid of the IR bs.
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Imagine how stupid the 43% of yes voters feel now.
Good work Network and Vara pilots, I’m going to drink half a box when you sign it up in celebration of your efforts!
No thanks. Rather than filling my head up with crapola I’m going to think of something encouraging to say to all the pilots sticking together in the West………
Good work Network and Vara pilots, I’m going to drink half a box when you sign it up in celebration of your efforts!
Good work Network and Vara pilots, I’m going to drink half a box when you sign it up in celebration of your efforts!
Setting up for the 1st QF Academy Grad?
Yeah give the yes voters who caved in too quick a pat on the back. Everyone gets a medal. Hooray. Mr positive.
No thanks. Rather than filling my head up with crapola I’m going to think of something encouraging to say to all the pilots sticking together in the West………
Good work Network and Vara pilots, I’m going to drink half a box when you sign it up in celebration of your efforts!
Good work Network and Vara pilots, I’m going to drink half a box when you sign it up in celebration of your efforts!