AsA TIBA/TRA/OPR Restrictions
Thread Starter
BN FIR reduced capacity 4 July 2023
b1012/23
ats opr at reduced capacity
in the flw airspace: Brisbane centre 127.2 point lookout. Designated
airspace handbook (dah) sector volume names affected are 'inverell a,
b, c'
designated airspace handbook (dah) sector volume names affected are
'inverell a, b, c'
map of affected airspace (listed under inverell in the brisbane fir)
avbl at https://www.airservicesaustralia.com...maps/index.asp
aprx area: An arc at 50dme ybcg south to ycfs, southwest to yarm,
northwest to yivl and northeast to posn 27nm northeast yspe
major ats routes:
h66 btn pebdo and idner
h91 btn 16nm north apagi and 55nm north sanad
h98 btn idner and 55nm north sanad
h133 btn losku and idner
h185 btn 20nm north banda and 50nm south gomol
q53 btn 13nm northeast apagi and 45nm northeast nolok
q210 btn ostam and 25nm northeast bobop
q923 btn 80nm north saneg and 50nm north kardi
y23 btn olrip and 13nm southwest berni
y43 btn 20nm north banda and 10nm south berni
y245 btn 20nm north banda and bna
awk not avbl
svy ops not avbl
limited sis provided
expect delay for clearance
fl125 to fl600
from 07 040700 to 07 041215
b1011/23
ats opr at reduced capacity
in the flw airspace: Brisbane centre 130.4 springbrook
designated airspace handbook (dah) sector volume names affected are
'gold coast a, b, c, d, e, f'. Map of affected airspace (listed under
gold coast in the brisbane fir) avbl at
https://www.airservicesaustralia.com...maps/index.asp
aprx area: 60nm radius of ybcg.
major ats routes:
a464 btn 12nm east scott and 25nm east winky
h66 btn idner and lagob
h91 btn saneg and apagi
h185 btn omkax and lagob
q47 btn gomol and 12.5nm north scott
q53 btn gomol and 13nm north apagi
q69 btn gomol and makru
q210 btn saneg and ostam
q923 btn muddl and 80nm north iskim
w128 btn enkog and 110nm north aldar
w760 btn 10nm south dulin and idner
y23 btn 13nm south berni and berni
y43 btn 10nm south berni and greav
awk not avbl
svy ops not avbl
limited sis provided
expect delay for clearance
6500ft amsl to fl600
from 07 040700 to 07 041215
in the flw airspace: Brisbane centre 127.2 point lookout. Designated
airspace handbook (dah) sector volume names affected are 'inverell a,
b, c'
designated airspace handbook (dah) sector volume names affected are
'inverell a, b, c'
map of affected airspace (listed under inverell in the brisbane fir)
avbl at https://www.airservicesaustralia.com...maps/index.asp
aprx area: An arc at 50dme ybcg south to ycfs, southwest to yarm,
northwest to yivl and northeast to posn 27nm northeast yspe
major ats routes:
h66 btn pebdo and idner
h91 btn 16nm north apagi and 55nm north sanad
h98 btn idner and 55nm north sanad
h133 btn losku and idner
h185 btn 20nm north banda and 50nm south gomol
q53 btn 13nm northeast apagi and 45nm northeast nolok
q210 btn ostam and 25nm northeast bobop
q923 btn 80nm north saneg and 50nm north kardi
y23 btn olrip and 13nm southwest berni
y43 btn 20nm north banda and 10nm south berni
y245 btn 20nm north banda and bna
awk not avbl
svy ops not avbl
limited sis provided
expect delay for clearance
fl125 to fl600
from 07 040700 to 07 041215
b1011/23
ats opr at reduced capacity
in the flw airspace: Brisbane centre 130.4 springbrook
designated airspace handbook (dah) sector volume names affected are
'gold coast a, b, c, d, e, f'. Map of affected airspace (listed under
gold coast in the brisbane fir) avbl at
https://www.airservicesaustralia.com...maps/index.asp
aprx area: 60nm radius of ybcg.
major ats routes:
a464 btn 12nm east scott and 25nm east winky
h66 btn idner and lagob
h91 btn saneg and apagi
h185 btn omkax and lagob
q47 btn gomol and 12.5nm north scott
q53 btn gomol and 13nm north apagi
q69 btn gomol and makru
q210 btn saneg and ostam
q923 btn muddl and 80nm north iskim
w128 btn enkog and 110nm north aldar
w760 btn 10nm south dulin and idner
y23 btn 13nm south berni and berni
y43 btn 10nm south berni and greav
awk not avbl
svy ops not avbl
limited sis provided
expect delay for clearance
6500ft amsl to fl600
from 07 040700 to 07 041215
ats opr at reduced capacity, bn fir.
For an unknown reason Prune has changed it to lower case, probably harder to read...
Fuggen'ell I love Government Jobsworths...
Meanwhile, in NAIPS....
Originally Posted by The ASA talking head
Airservices managed this issue by rerouting aircraft around the impacted airspace, causing minimal delays. Full air traffic management network service resumed as of 1.30pm Thursday, 29th June
I'm sure if ASA had to pay for the extra fuel burn they'd find enough controllers soon enough. This is the same problems with airports. There is no penalty to the service providers if they don't do their job properly.
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There is an old joke along the lines that God and the Devil have a telephone hook up each week; this week it's God's turn to ring Nick...
G: "Hey Nick, how is it going down there?
D: "Actually God, its going great - we have an engineer down here - he's installed air conditioning and flush toilets..."
G: "Nick, you know the rules, you are not allowed engineers, send him up here."
D: "No God, we rather like what he is doing for us."
G: "Send him up here or I'll sue.
D: "And tell me God, where would you get a lawyer?"
Now with apologies to an old mate who is a lawyer and regularly posts on here - this is exactly what applies to Airservices.
Air (no) Services have the power to issue those huge and complex NOTAMS in this post but they simply do not have the expertise to understand, evaluate and quantify the risks and effects of their decisions.
Airservices is simply a service provider; its responsibilities are in the AirServices Act.
It no longer has highly experienced, current IFR heavy aircraft pilots on staff. It has no performance engineers.
And nor should it. They do not belong with a service provider.
In short, AsA promulgates these changes without having the in house expertise to understand the safety consequences for aircraft operating in all manner of weather conditions in IMC and without ATC separation services.
By what imaginary expertise do they carry out a safety case covering their actions?
I suggest Australia return to the integrated FAA model where both regulation and service provision are in the one organisation with one CEO and one responsible Minister.
The currrent system is broken.
CASA apparently knows this but what can it do?
Take AsA to court as it would a pilot? That would help!!
Suspend or Cancel AsA's operating licences? I am not sure that would get much political or public support!
In short: we have a wholly imaginary safety system. It is broke and it needs fixing.... NOW would be good.
G: "Hey Nick, how is it going down there?
D: "Actually God, its going great - we have an engineer down here - he's installed air conditioning and flush toilets..."
G: "Nick, you know the rules, you are not allowed engineers, send him up here."
D: "No God, we rather like what he is doing for us."
G: "Send him up here or I'll sue.
D: "And tell me God, where would you get a lawyer?"
Now with apologies to an old mate who is a lawyer and regularly posts on here - this is exactly what applies to Airservices.
Air (no) Services have the power to issue those huge and complex NOTAMS in this post but they simply do not have the expertise to understand, evaluate and quantify the risks and effects of their decisions.
Airservices is simply a service provider; its responsibilities are in the AirServices Act.
It no longer has highly experienced, current IFR heavy aircraft pilots on staff. It has no performance engineers.
And nor should it. They do not belong with a service provider.
In short, AsA promulgates these changes without having the in house expertise to understand the safety consequences for aircraft operating in all manner of weather conditions in IMC and without ATC separation services.
By what imaginary expertise do they carry out a safety case covering their actions?
I suggest Australia return to the integrated FAA model where both regulation and service provision are in the one organisation with one CEO and one responsible Minister.
The currrent system is broken.
CASA apparently knows this but what can it do?
Take AsA to court as it would a pilot? That would help!!
Suspend or Cancel AsA's operating licences? I am not sure that would get much political or public support!
In short: we have a wholly imaginary safety system. It is broke and it needs fixing.... NOW would be good.
I agree with your bottom line:We have a wholly imaginary safety system. That outcome is caused primarily by politics: A few decades of governments who have left CASA, ATSB and Airservices mostly to their own devices, provided they only ever bring good news or – in exceptional circumstances – euphemisms disguising bad news.
Everything is fine, and the short-term and unexpected challenges are being dealt with effectively. Australia’s enviable air safety record, contributed to by Australia’s world-leading air traffic control system, is caused by these agencies. If they were dysfunctional, we wouldn’t have our enviable air safety record, would we. It stands to reason. Absence of evidence in the form of mid-airs is evidence of absence of the risk of mid-airs. (Except the inconvenient, “rare operational” IFR mid-air in G near Mangalore, and that inconvenient mid-air near Gympie, involving the kinds of aircraft which share G airspace with RPT aircraft, and…).
The mechanism essential to the proper governance of these agencies has been malfunctioning for some time. There’s little effective Parliamentary scrutiny.
After each change of government I watch the major party members who staunchly defended senior public officials while in government swap seats with the major party (opposition) members who roundly criticised those officials while in opposition and – without skipping a beat – the previous staunch defenders become the new criticisers and the previous criticisers become the new staunch defenders. It’s a symbiosis in which both ‘sides’ of politics know that, ultimately, neither’s long-term interests are served by a really frank and fearless public sector revealing the very dirty laundry strewn throughout the halls of government. The senior echelons of the public sector know their longevity depends on delivering good news.
Everything is fine and any short-term and unexpected challenges are minor and being managed effectively.
This feature of the public sector is why RoboDebt survived for as long as it did.
Most of the proper Parliamentary scrutiny these days is done by cross-benchers. But they are spread way too thin. It’s like a flea on the rump of an elephant.
CASA, ATSB and Airservices are in their own mini-symbiosis. The interests of their senior echelons are served by delivering only good news about themselves and each other.
Imagine if the truth about Australia’s third-world airspace system and the causes of the deterioration actually dawned on the public. Questions would be asked of CASA and ATSB. Better for all concerned if the united message is that everything’s fine and any short-term and unexpected challenges are minor and being managed effectively and safely. Relax, Minister, everything’s under control (unless you’re in TIBA or G of course).
Imagine if the truth about the healthcare avoidance behaviours of pilots caused by fear of Avmed overreach got out. Aircraft passengers would start worrying because there’s a substantial probability that the flight crew have health issues they’re too scared to raise with health professionals. Better instead to stick with the comforting delusion that Avmed is the bastion between carnage and safety, keeping cockpits full of latter-day Neil Armstrongs.
(And all those Commonwealth-owned airports are being managed so as to promote the sound development of civil aviation and meet the current and future needs of civil aviation users, dontcha know. Just ask the airport operators and the Department responsible for administering the Airports Act.)
Suicide is the leading cause of death of young Australians. Eating disorders are killing them, too. Most of them will never be able to afford to buy a home. Literacy and numeracy levels are deteriorating. Australia has the highest per capita cocaine use in the world and is now a battle ground for competing, armed drug cartels. What a lucky country. Everything’s fine.
These outcomes are among the many reasons for Australians’ faith in politicians and public institutions being at an all time low. Most everyone has their own experience and insight into how busted ‘the government’ is.
The long term solution is inexorably happening. The major parties’ share of the primary vote is inexorably decreasing. Maybe they’ll wake up; maybe they won’t. For the time being they label themselves the ‘parties of government’ so as to suggest there are no other alternatives than Tweedle Dumb or Tweedle Dumber. It will be interesting to see if the populace falls for it, but the ever-expanding cross-bench suggests the populace won’t. (As H.L. Mencken said: Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.)
My primary fear is that when there is an aviation disaster involving an RPT hull loss, the patent self-interest of Airservices, CASA and ATSB will be served by pointing the finger at the crew and avoiding or downplaying the significance of any systemic issues. The natural response of government (of whichever recent ‘traditional’ persuasion) will be to throw more power and money at these agencies, to encourage them to redouble their efforts in the interests of aviation safety.
The system these agencies have been allowed to build creates a perverse incentive for them not to scrutinise and expose the failures in that very system, which failures cause actual reductions in safety. As you observe, Advance, the writers of these NOTAMs don’t have the expertise to assess the safety risks of what they are doing. They’re using NOTAMs as a tool to deal with a personnel management issue in Airservices, moving risks out of Airservices’ lap and creating risks (and costs) in ‘someone else’s’ lap. What the extent of those risks (and costs) are and whether the ‘someone elses’ are mitigating the risks adequately is not Airservices’ problem. It should be CASA’s problem, but what is CASA going to do about it? As you observe, Advance, any action by CASA would cause embarrassment and mayhem. Best instead to say that these are minor and unexpected issues being effectively managed (while keeping fingers crossed hoping that the diameter of the roulette wheel in the airspace shambles remains large enough to avoid a disaster).
At the moment the Parliament appears collectively incapable of seeing and doing anything substantial about what’s going on.
Fingers crossed, everyone.
Thread Starter
B1016/23
ATS OPR AT REDUCED CAPACITY
IN THE FLW AIRSPACE: BRISBANE CENTRE 127.2 POINT LOOKOUT. DESIGNATED
AIRSPACE HANDBOOK (DAH) SECTOR VOLUME NAMES AFFECTED ARE 'INVERELL A,
B, C'
DESIGNATED AIRSPACE HANDBOOK (DAH) SECTOR VOLUME NAMES AFFECTED ARE
'INVERELL A, B, C'
MAP OF AFFECTED AIRSPACE (LISTED UNDER INVERELL IN THE BRISBANE FIR)
AVBL AT HTTPS://WWW.AIRSERVICESAUSTRALIA.COM...MAPS/INDEX.ASP
APRX AREA: AN ARC AT 50DME YBCG SOUTH TO YCFS, SOUTHWEST TO YARM,
NORTHWEST TO YIVL AND NORTHEAST TO POSN 27NM NORTHEAST YSPE
MAJOR ATS ROUTES:
H66 BTN PEBDO AND IDNER
H91 BTN 16NM NORTH APAGI AND 55NM NORTH SANAD
H98 BTN IDNER AND 55NM NORTH SANAD
H133 BTN LOSKU AND IDNER
H185 BTN 20NM NORTH BANDA AND 50NM SOUTH GOMOL
Q53 BTN 13NM NORTHEAST APAGI AND 45NM NORTHEAST NOLOK
Q210 BTN OSTAM AND 25NM NORTHEAST BOBOP
Q923 BTN 80NM NORTH SANEG AND 50NM NORTH KARDI
Y23 BTN OLRIP AND 13NM SOUTHWEST BERNI
Y43 BTN 20NM NORTH BANDA AND 10NM SOUTH BERNI
Y245 BTN 20NM NORTH BANDA AND BNA
AWK NOT AVBL
SVY OPS NOT AVBL
LIMITED SIS PROVIDED
EXPECT DELAY FOR CLEARANCE
FL125 TO FL600
FROM 07 050400 TO 07 051100
B1015/23
ATS OPR AT REDUCED CAPACITY
IN THE FLW AIRSPACE: BRISBANE CENTRE 130.4 SPRINGBROOK
DESIGNATED AIRSPACE HANDBOOK (DAH) SECTOR VOLUME NAMES AFFECTED ARE
'GOLD COAST A, B, C, D, E, F'. MAP OF AFFECTED AIRSPACE (LISTED UNDER
GOLD COAST IN THE BRISBANE FIR) AVBL AT
HTTPS://WWW.AIRSERVICESAUSTRALIA.COM...MAPS/INDEX.ASP
APRX AREA: 60NM RADIUS OF YBCG.
MAJOR ATS ROUTES:
A464 BTN 12NM EAST SCOTT AND 25NM EAST WINKY
H66 BTN IDNER AND LAGOB
H91 BTN SANEG AND APAGI
H185 BTN OMKAX AND LAGOB
Q47 BTN GOMOL AND 12.5NM NORTH SCOTT
Q53 BTN GOMOL AND 13NM NORTH APAGI
Q69 BTN GOMOL AND MAKRU
Q210 BTN SANEG AND OSTAM
Q923 BTN MUDDL AND 80NM NORTH ISKIM
W128 BTN ENKOG AND 110NM NORTH ALDAR
W760 BTN 10NM SOUTH DULIN AND IDNER
Y23 BTN 13NM SOUTH BERNI AND BERNI
Y43 BTN 10NM SOUTH BERNI AND GREAV
AWK NOT AVBL
SVY OPS NOT AVBL
LIMITED SIS PROVIDED
EXPECT DELAY FOR CLEARANCE
6500FT AMSL TO FL600
FROM 07 050400 TO 07 051100
B1014/23
BALLINA SURVEILLANCE FLIGHT INFORMATION SERVICE (SFIS) NOT AVBL
DUE OPR RESTRICTIONS. BALLINA BROADCAST AREA REMAINS CLASS G AS PER
AIP - OUTSIDE SURVEILLANCE FLIGHT INFORMATION SERVICE (SFIS) HR
COMMON TRAFFIC ADVISORY FREQ 124.2
SFC TO 8500FT AMSL
FROM 07 042200 TO 07 050610
2307042200 TO 2307050115
2307050300 TO 2307050350
2307050530 TO 2307050610
ATS OPR AT REDUCED CAPACITY
IN THE FLW AIRSPACE: BRISBANE CENTRE 127.2 POINT LOOKOUT. DESIGNATED
AIRSPACE HANDBOOK (DAH) SECTOR VOLUME NAMES AFFECTED ARE 'INVERELL A,
B, C'
DESIGNATED AIRSPACE HANDBOOK (DAH) SECTOR VOLUME NAMES AFFECTED ARE
'INVERELL A, B, C'
MAP OF AFFECTED AIRSPACE (LISTED UNDER INVERELL IN THE BRISBANE FIR)
AVBL AT HTTPS://WWW.AIRSERVICESAUSTRALIA.COM...MAPS/INDEX.ASP
APRX AREA: AN ARC AT 50DME YBCG SOUTH TO YCFS, SOUTHWEST TO YARM,
NORTHWEST TO YIVL AND NORTHEAST TO POSN 27NM NORTHEAST YSPE
MAJOR ATS ROUTES:
H66 BTN PEBDO AND IDNER
H91 BTN 16NM NORTH APAGI AND 55NM NORTH SANAD
H98 BTN IDNER AND 55NM NORTH SANAD
H133 BTN LOSKU AND IDNER
H185 BTN 20NM NORTH BANDA AND 50NM SOUTH GOMOL
Q53 BTN 13NM NORTHEAST APAGI AND 45NM NORTHEAST NOLOK
Q210 BTN OSTAM AND 25NM NORTHEAST BOBOP
Q923 BTN 80NM NORTH SANEG AND 50NM NORTH KARDI
Y23 BTN OLRIP AND 13NM SOUTHWEST BERNI
Y43 BTN 20NM NORTH BANDA AND 10NM SOUTH BERNI
Y245 BTN 20NM NORTH BANDA AND BNA
AWK NOT AVBL
SVY OPS NOT AVBL
LIMITED SIS PROVIDED
EXPECT DELAY FOR CLEARANCE
FL125 TO FL600
FROM 07 050400 TO 07 051100
B1015/23
ATS OPR AT REDUCED CAPACITY
IN THE FLW AIRSPACE: BRISBANE CENTRE 130.4 SPRINGBROOK
DESIGNATED AIRSPACE HANDBOOK (DAH) SECTOR VOLUME NAMES AFFECTED ARE
'GOLD COAST A, B, C, D, E, F'. MAP OF AFFECTED AIRSPACE (LISTED UNDER
GOLD COAST IN THE BRISBANE FIR) AVBL AT
HTTPS://WWW.AIRSERVICESAUSTRALIA.COM...MAPS/INDEX.ASP
APRX AREA: 60NM RADIUS OF YBCG.
MAJOR ATS ROUTES:
A464 BTN 12NM EAST SCOTT AND 25NM EAST WINKY
H66 BTN IDNER AND LAGOB
H91 BTN SANEG AND APAGI
H185 BTN OMKAX AND LAGOB
Q47 BTN GOMOL AND 12.5NM NORTH SCOTT
Q53 BTN GOMOL AND 13NM NORTH APAGI
Q69 BTN GOMOL AND MAKRU
Q210 BTN SANEG AND OSTAM
Q923 BTN MUDDL AND 80NM NORTH ISKIM
W128 BTN ENKOG AND 110NM NORTH ALDAR
W760 BTN 10NM SOUTH DULIN AND IDNER
Y23 BTN 13NM SOUTH BERNI AND BERNI
Y43 BTN 10NM SOUTH BERNI AND GREAV
AWK NOT AVBL
SVY OPS NOT AVBL
LIMITED SIS PROVIDED
EXPECT DELAY FOR CLEARANCE
6500FT AMSL TO FL600
FROM 07 050400 TO 07 051100
B1014/23
BALLINA SURVEILLANCE FLIGHT INFORMATION SERVICE (SFIS) NOT AVBL
DUE OPR RESTRICTIONS. BALLINA BROADCAST AREA REMAINS CLASS G AS PER
AIP - OUTSIDE SURVEILLANCE FLIGHT INFORMATION SERVICE (SFIS) HR
COMMON TRAFFIC ADVISORY FREQ 124.2
SFC TO 8500FT AMSL
FROM 07 042200 TO 07 050610
2307042200 TO 2307050115
2307050300 TO 2307050350
2307050530 TO 2307050610
Thread Starter
B441/23
KARRATHA (YPKA) TWR ATS NOT AVBL DUE OPERATIONAL RESTRICTIONS
KARRATHA CLASS D AIRSPACE BECOMES CLASS G SFC TO 5500FT AMSL AS PER
EN ROUTE SUPPLEMENT AUSTRALIA YPKA - ATS AIRSPACE - OUTSIDE TWR HR
FIS AVBL MELBOURNE CENTRE 122.4
COMMON TRAFFIC ADVISORY FREQUENCY 127.35
SFC TO 5500FT AMSL
FROM 07 031000 TO 07 071130
DAILY 1000/1130
B440/23
PARAFIELD TWR ATS NOT AVBL DUE OPERATIONAL RESTRICTIONS
PARAFIELD CLASS D AIRSPACE 1500FT AND BLW REVERTS TO CLASS G
AIRSPACE. FIS AVBL CENTRE 130.45.
COMMON TFC ADVISORY FREQ (CTAF) 118.7
ENR SUP AUSTRALIA (ERSA) - OUTSIDE TWR HR - REFERS
FROM 07 022130 TO 07 070930
DAILY 2130/2200 0800/0930
B439/23
AVALON TWR ATS NOT AVBL DUE OPERATIONAL RESTRICTIONS
AVALON CLASS D AIRSPACE BECOMES CLASS G FROM SFC TO 700FT AND
CLASS E FROM 700FT TO 2500FT AS PER EN ROUTE SUP AUSTRALIA (ERSA)
AVALON - ATS AIRSPACE - OUTSIDE TWR HR
FIS AVBL MELBOURNE CENTRE 135.70
COMMON TFC ADVISORY FREQ (CTAF) 120.1
SFC TO 2500FT AMSL
FROM 07 022100 TO 07 071200
DAILY 2100/2300 0200/0300 0800/1200
B438/23
ALBURY TWR ATS NOT AVBL DUE OPERATIONAL RESTRICTIONS
ALBURY CLASS C AND D AIRSPACE BECOMES CLASS G AS PER EN ROUTE
SUPPLEMENT AUSTRALIA ALBURY - ATS AIRSPACE - OUTSIDE TWR HR
FIS AVBL MELBOURNE CENTRE 125.2
COMMON TRAFFIC ADVISORY FREQUENCY 123.25
SFC TO 8500FT AMSL
FROM 07 022015 TO 07 071030
DAILY 2015/2300 0700/1030
KARRATHA (YPKA) TWR ATS NOT AVBL DUE OPERATIONAL RESTRICTIONS
KARRATHA CLASS D AIRSPACE BECOMES CLASS G SFC TO 5500FT AMSL AS PER
EN ROUTE SUPPLEMENT AUSTRALIA YPKA - ATS AIRSPACE - OUTSIDE TWR HR
FIS AVBL MELBOURNE CENTRE 122.4
COMMON TRAFFIC ADVISORY FREQUENCY 127.35
SFC TO 5500FT AMSL
FROM 07 031000 TO 07 071130
DAILY 1000/1130
B440/23
PARAFIELD TWR ATS NOT AVBL DUE OPERATIONAL RESTRICTIONS
PARAFIELD CLASS D AIRSPACE 1500FT AND BLW REVERTS TO CLASS G
AIRSPACE. FIS AVBL CENTRE 130.45.
COMMON TFC ADVISORY FREQ (CTAF) 118.7
ENR SUP AUSTRALIA (ERSA) - OUTSIDE TWR HR - REFERS
FROM 07 022130 TO 07 070930
DAILY 2130/2200 0800/0930
B439/23
AVALON TWR ATS NOT AVBL DUE OPERATIONAL RESTRICTIONS
AVALON CLASS D AIRSPACE BECOMES CLASS G FROM SFC TO 700FT AND
CLASS E FROM 700FT TO 2500FT AS PER EN ROUTE SUP AUSTRALIA (ERSA)
AVALON - ATS AIRSPACE - OUTSIDE TWR HR
FIS AVBL MELBOURNE CENTRE 135.70
COMMON TFC ADVISORY FREQ (CTAF) 120.1
SFC TO 2500FT AMSL
FROM 07 022100 TO 07 071200
DAILY 2100/2300 0200/0300 0800/1200
B438/23
ALBURY TWR ATS NOT AVBL DUE OPERATIONAL RESTRICTIONS
ALBURY CLASS C AND D AIRSPACE BECOMES CLASS G AS PER EN ROUTE
SUPPLEMENT AUSTRALIA ALBURY - ATS AIRSPACE - OUTSIDE TWR HR
FIS AVBL MELBOURNE CENTRE 125.2
COMMON TRAFFIC ADVISORY FREQUENCY 123.25
SFC TO 8500FT AMSL
FROM 07 022015 TO 07 071030
DAILY 2015/2300 0700/1030
Thread Starter
The only way I can see to avoid rather embarrassing international headlines and a hit to the economy....... is to bring in experienced controllers pilots with training paths measured in weeks rather than years
different callsigns
Whilst I shall not argue with your characterisation, let us be kind and suggest he got himself in this pickle trying to save AsA money during Covid.
Lots of mistakes then from the Shark supporter on down.
Failure to provide airspace classifications that ensure separation of IFR aircraft in IMC from each other when they can not do it themselves.
Failure to operate a world's best practice ATS system.
Insufficient staff to provide the minimal service AsA has opted to provide, and minimal supervision as well.
Hugely complex NOTAMS issued at very short notice which many line pilots simply do not have the time to decipher and risk their jobs if they reject a flight.
The unfolding debacle with Airspace management (or lack of it) in the Sydney basin.
The dysfunctional safety structure of AsA vis a vis CASA and the Department. No functional safety oversight and enforcement, no political control or responsibility.
Decisions being taken by people without the qualifications and experience to analyse the safety impacts of those decisions.
If ever there were links in a safety chain or holes in James Reason's swiss cheese, they exist right now and unless somebody takes some truly serious action the outcome is inevitable.
. Fokker VH-UMF, Stinson VH-UHH, Viscount VH-TVC, Visccount VH-RMQ, Friendship VH-TFB, Seminole VH-JQF, Travelair VH-AEM
Please, can we fix all this without the help of a coroner's report?
URGENT ACTION IS WHAT IS NEEDED,
Now I shall take the advice of a very experienced aviator on here and get on with my life.
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If ever there were links in a safety chain or holes in James Reason's swiss cheese, they exist right now and unless somebody takes some truly serious action the outcome is inevitable.
Please, can we fix all this without the help of a coroner's report?
URGENT ACTION IS WHAT IS NEEDED
Fokker VH-UMF, Stinson VH-UHH, Viscount VH-TVC, Visccount VH-RMQ, Friendship VH-TFB, Seminole VH-JQF, Travelair VH-AEM
Thread Starter
YBHM
B796/23 REVIEW B200/23
HAMILTON ISLAND (YBHM) TWR AND ASSOCIATED CLASS D AIRSPACE ACT, TWR
ATS AMD HOURS
SFC TO 4500FT AMSL
FROM 06 071118 TO 08 100545 EST
DAILY 2330/0545
HAMILTON ISLAND (YBHM) TWR AND ASSOCIATED CLASS D AIRSPACE ACT, TWR
ATS AMD HOURS
SFC TO 4500FT AMSL
FROM 06 071118 TO 08 100545 EST
DAILY 2330/0545
Thread Starter
Bn app/dep operational restrictions
B1020/23
ATS OPR AT REDUCED CAPACITY
DUE TO OPERATIONAL RESTRICTIONS IN THE FOLLOWING AIRSPACE:
DESIGNATED AIRSPACE HANDBOOK (DAH) SECTOR VOLUME NAME AFFECTED IS:
'BRISBANE APPROACH BRISBANE'. INCLUDES CLASS C AIRSPACE WI 30NM OF
YBBN VOR/DME BLW FL180
YBBB/BRISBANE APCH 124.7 AND 125.6.
YBBB/BRISBANE DEPARTURES 133.45 AND 118.45.
CONTINGENCY MAPS (LISTED UNDER BRISBANE APCH/DEPARTURE IN THE
BRISBANE FIR AVBL AT
HTTP://WWW.AIRSERVICESAUSTRALIA.COM/NOTAMMAPS/INDEX.ASP
NIL AWK 2000-0300Z AWK BETWEEN 0300-1200Z MAY BE SUBJ TO DELAYS AND
RESTRICTIONS
FOR FURTHER INFO CTC AIRSERVICES AUSTRALIA ON 1300 272 662 WITHIN
AUSTRALIA OR +612 6268 5662 OUTSIDE AUSTRALIA.
BASE OF CTA TO FL180
FROM 07 062000 TO 07 071200
ATS OPR AT REDUCED CAPACITY
DUE TO OPERATIONAL RESTRICTIONS IN THE FOLLOWING AIRSPACE:
DESIGNATED AIRSPACE HANDBOOK (DAH) SECTOR VOLUME NAME AFFECTED IS:
'BRISBANE APPROACH BRISBANE'. INCLUDES CLASS C AIRSPACE WI 30NM OF
YBBN VOR/DME BLW FL180
YBBB/BRISBANE APCH 124.7 AND 125.6.
YBBB/BRISBANE DEPARTURES 133.45 AND 118.45.
CONTINGENCY MAPS (LISTED UNDER BRISBANE APCH/DEPARTURE IN THE
BRISBANE FIR AVBL AT
HTTP://WWW.AIRSERVICESAUSTRALIA.COM/NOTAMMAPS/INDEX.ASP
NIL AWK 2000-0300Z AWK BETWEEN 0300-1200Z MAY BE SUBJ TO DELAYS AND
RESTRICTIONS
FOR FURTHER INFO CTC AIRSERVICES AUSTRALIA ON 1300 272 662 WITHIN
AUSTRALIA OR +612 6268 5662 OUTSIDE AUSTRALIA.
BASE OF CTA TO FL180
FROM 07 062000 TO 07 071200
Thread Starter
Failure to provide airspace classifications that ensure separation of IFR aircraft in IMC from each other when they can not do it themselves.
Failure to operate a world's best practice ATS system.
Failure to operate a world's best practice ATS system.
The thread is largely about highlighting the staffing situation within Australian ATC, and how this impacts ATC and pilots.
Insufficient staff to provide the minimal service AsA has opted to provide, and minimal supervision as well.
The dysfunctional safety structure of AsA vis a vis CASA and the Department. No functional safety oversight and enforcement, no political control or responsibility.
Decisions being taken by people without the qualifications and experience to analyse the safety impacts of those decisions.
Ahhh yeah beg to differ...ASA management...the one true cause.
You are correct however when you say, no easy fix...the place has been cactus for years...50 recruits won't make any difference any time soon.
If we allegedly have 100 excess staff why are we desperately trying to recruit 50....seriously what a joke.
I absolutely love my job as an ATC, have done for decades but the organisation lost me 15 years ago...
You are correct however when you say, no easy fix...the place has been cactus for years...50 recruits won't make any difference any time soon.
If we allegedly have 100 excess staff why are we desperately trying to recruit 50....seriously what a joke.
I absolutely love my job as an ATC, have done for decades but the organisation lost me 15 years ago...
Last edited by longtermatc-career; 6th Jul 2023 at 12:36.
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B1023/23
ATS OPR AT REDUCED CAPACITY
DUE TO OPR RESTRICTIONS IN THE FOLLOWING AIRSPACE:
DESIGNATED AIRSPACE HANDBOOK (DAH) SECTOR VOLUME NAMES AFFECTED ARE:
'BRISBANE APPROACH GOLD COAST A' AND 'BRISBANE APPROACH GOLD COAST
B'. INCLUDES CLASS C AIRSPACE WI 30NM OF GOLD COAST VOR/DME, NORTH OF
A LINE 040/240 DEGREES GOLD COAST UP TO AND INCLUDING A070, SOUTH OF
A LINE 040/240 GOLD COAST UP TO AND INCLUDING FL120'.
YBBB/BRISBANE APCH 123.5
AERIAL WORK ACFT MAY BE SUBJ TO DELAYS AND RESTRICTIONS
FOR FURTHER INFO CTC AIRSERVICES AUSTRALIA ON 1300 272 662 WITHIN
AUSTRALIA OR +612 6268 5662 OUTSIDE AUSTRALIA.
VERTICAL LIMITS: FROM BCTA TO F120
FROM 07 062100 TO 07 070700
B1022/23
ARCHERFIELD TWR ATS NOT AVBL DUE OPR RESTRICTIONS
CLASS D AIRSPACE 1500FT AND BLW BECOMES CLASS G AIRPSACE AS PER EN
ROUTE SUPPLEMENT AUSTRALIA YBAF - ATS AIRSPACE - OUTSIDE TWR HR
FIS AVBL BRISBANE CENTRE 125.7
COMMON TFC ADVISORY FREQ (CTAF) 118.1MHZ
SFC TO 1500FT AMSL
FROM 07 062300 TO 07 070700
2307062300 TO 2307070000
2307070200 TO 2307070300
2307070500 TO 2307070545
2307070645 TO 2307070700
B1021/23
BALLINA SURVEILLANCE FLIGHT INFORMATION SERVICE (SFIS) NOT AVBL
DUE OPR RESTRICTIONS. BALLINA BROADCAST AREA REMAINS CLASS G AS PER
AIP - OUTSIDE SURVEILLANCE FLIGHT INFORMATION SERVICE (SFIS) HR
COMMON TRAFFIC ADVISORY FREQ 124.2
SFC TO 8500FT AMSL
FROM 07 070000 TO 07 070800
2307070000 TO 2307070040
2307070200 TO 2307070250
2307070400 TO 2307070440
2307070600 TO 2307070800
ATS OPR AT REDUCED CAPACITY
DUE TO OPR RESTRICTIONS IN THE FOLLOWING AIRSPACE:
DESIGNATED AIRSPACE HANDBOOK (DAH) SECTOR VOLUME NAMES AFFECTED ARE:
'BRISBANE APPROACH GOLD COAST A' AND 'BRISBANE APPROACH GOLD COAST
B'. INCLUDES CLASS C AIRSPACE WI 30NM OF GOLD COAST VOR/DME, NORTH OF
A LINE 040/240 DEGREES GOLD COAST UP TO AND INCLUDING A070, SOUTH OF
A LINE 040/240 GOLD COAST UP TO AND INCLUDING FL120'.
YBBB/BRISBANE APCH 123.5
AERIAL WORK ACFT MAY BE SUBJ TO DELAYS AND RESTRICTIONS
FOR FURTHER INFO CTC AIRSERVICES AUSTRALIA ON 1300 272 662 WITHIN
AUSTRALIA OR +612 6268 5662 OUTSIDE AUSTRALIA.
VERTICAL LIMITS: FROM BCTA TO F120
FROM 07 062100 TO 07 070700
B1022/23
ARCHERFIELD TWR ATS NOT AVBL DUE OPR RESTRICTIONS
CLASS D AIRSPACE 1500FT AND BLW BECOMES CLASS G AIRPSACE AS PER EN
ROUTE SUPPLEMENT AUSTRALIA YBAF - ATS AIRSPACE - OUTSIDE TWR HR
FIS AVBL BRISBANE CENTRE 125.7
COMMON TFC ADVISORY FREQ (CTAF) 118.1MHZ
SFC TO 1500FT AMSL
FROM 07 062300 TO 07 070700
2307062300 TO 2307070000
2307070200 TO 2307070300
2307070500 TO 2307070545
2307070645 TO 2307070700
B1021/23
BALLINA SURVEILLANCE FLIGHT INFORMATION SERVICE (SFIS) NOT AVBL
DUE OPR RESTRICTIONS. BALLINA BROADCAST AREA REMAINS CLASS G AS PER
AIP - OUTSIDE SURVEILLANCE FLIGHT INFORMATION SERVICE (SFIS) HR
COMMON TRAFFIC ADVISORY FREQ 124.2
SFC TO 8500FT AMSL
FROM 07 070000 TO 07 070800
2307070000 TO 2307070040
2307070200 TO 2307070250
2307070400 TO 2307070440
2307070600 TO 2307070800
Interesting that NOTAM B1023/23 doesn't point to the CONTINGENCY MAPS MAPS
Last edited by sunnySA; 6th Jul 2023 at 13:42. Reason: maps
separation of IFR aircraft in IMC from each other when they can not do it themselves.