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Old 30th Jun 2023, 03:58
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Originally Posted by dr dre
One airline has already directed this. When Airservices found out they went to the media and had a sook about how unfair it was.
Perhaps it's time said airline copied todays TIBA maps into Google Earth and said to the reporter "THIS is how much airspace they have closed off and we cannot safely fly though, as we can't avoid another airliner full of families! Because of that, we need to either cancel the flight, or fly around it."

I think the Huon & Mallee TRA's encompasses pretty much every reasonable routing between MEL and ADL and completely isolates Tasmania from RPT to the mainland... These aren't just piddly little PRD areas linked to a firing range or something small - the Huon one covers the entire state of Tasmania!
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Old 30th Jun 2023, 07:04
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Air (no) Services are required as a condition of their licence to have and to do certain things - just as any other licence holder is required to do.

CAR 172.105 Have the management structure to enable it to provide the services covered by its licence.
CAR 172.110 Have enough suitably qualified and trained personnel to provide licenced services in accordance with published standards.
CAR 172.115 Have enough .... supervisory personnel to ensure services provided to standards.
CAR 172.145 Have a Safety Management System to ensure.... and keep it under review to ensure it operates properly.

I doubt anyone would seriously contend Air (No) Services is meeting the legal obligations of its licence(s).
Would the Chief Legal Officer of the Civil Aviation Safety Authority - or the CEO - care to provide a statement of why AirServices is not being prosecuted for any and all of its various breaches?

I'm reasonably sure CASA would prosecute Virgin or Rex if they flew a B737 with one pilot and one hostie (maybe not the protected QANTAS though).
Same thing - WHY is there no prosecution being launched.

The Air (No) Services Safety Management System requires that change be managed in accordance with a safety plan - IE all the changes in the impossibly complex NOTAMS above must have been risk analysed, and the risk mitigation strategies documented, and the resultant evaluated as safe to specified levels, the safety case to be submitted to CASA and approved by them. Would a responsible person........... no, wait, that won't work - would somebody in Airservices care to nominate the date the relevant safety case was prepared, who authorised it, when it was submitted to CASA and when and by whom in CASA it was approved, together with the file numbers so we can use an FOI request to see if any safety process was followed?


I contend that Air Services is no longer qualified to hold its approvals since the requirement is:172.030 When applicant is eligible for approval

For Subpart 172.F, an applicant is eligible to become an ATS provider if the applicant is able to comply with the requirements of Subparts 172.C and 172.D or will be able to do so if the applicant is approved.

Since the regulations above are part of Subpart 172-C and they are not being met..........................



(And yes, for the pickers of nits, I have rather shortened the form of words in the regulations rather than use all the lawyerly words but the context is correct.)



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Old 30th Jun 2023, 08:42
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As a LAME of over 57 yearís experience Australian aviation regulation in all areas is on its last gasp, a stinking steaming pile💩
Surely FAA will soon ban all American carriers from using our airspace and demote us to third world status. We should have adopted the NZ CAA regs, shut down CASA and put aviation under direct ministerial control. The next would be to re-employ only the competent.
Ban all aviation regulation management and minister from Chairmanís Lounge and Virgin equivalent.
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Old 30th Jun 2023, 11:07
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Poor Minister King

Don't you feel sorry for the Minister?
Really, if she understood her responsibilities what is she going to do first?

Air (No) Services failing to comply with all manner of Air Safety Regulations in CAR 172 and arguably not meeting the conditions for holding an Air Traffic Services licence, insufficient staff, insufficient supervision, failing to meet the required standards, failing to comply with the required safety management system and on and on..............Minister King: golly, gosh, gee whizz what do I do about Airservices??

Civil Aviation Safety Authority not doing what it is supposed to do:
CASA's functions (1) CASA has the function of conducting the safety regulation of the following, in accordance with this Act and the regulations:
..................................
(c) developing and promulgating appropriate, clear and concise aviation safety standards;

(d) developing effective enforcement strategies to secure compliance with aviation safety standards;

(e) issuing certificates, licences, registrations and permits;

(f) conducting comprehensive aviation industry surveillance, including assessment of safety-related decisions taken by industry management at all levels for their impact on aviation safety;

(g) conducting regular reviews of the system of civil aviation safety in order to monitor the safety performance of the aviation industry, to identify safety-related trends and risk factors and to promote the development and improvement of the system;

etc etc ad nauseum but that is enough for now

CASA has issued AirServices with licences to provide ATS services to the Standards in the Manual of Standards, yep, we have Standards and we have licences, so far so good.
But AirServices is manifestly incapable and not having the required staff to deliver services to the requrired standards.
Has CASA instituted surveillance and has it noticed what the whole aviation world knows? A(n)SA is not meeting the legal requirements for staff, for supervision, for safety management, for meeting the standards.
Has CASA taken any enforcement action? How many prosecutions are before the Courts? None?
Minister King: golly, gosh, gee whizz what do I do about CASA????

Then there is ATSB
The ATSB's function is to improve safety and public confidence in the aviation, marine and rail modes of transport through excellence in:
  • independent investigation of transport accidents and other safety occurrences;
  • safety data recording, analysis and research; and
  • fostering safety awareness, knowledge and action.
An investigation conducted by the ATSB under the TSI Act is independent of other interests, such as commercial and regulatory ones.

Even in my wildest dreams of perfection I do not see the ATSB investigating AsA's lack of adequate services and CASA's lack of efffective action to fix the problems yet ATSB is, by design, the last safety check on the system.

Minister King: golly, gosh, gee whizz what do I do about ATSB missing in action (Ah, sorry, ATSB just might be conducting an urgent investigation, results due by 2026)


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Old 30th Jun 2023, 11:52
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Air (No) Services failing to comply with all manner of Air Safety Regulations in CAR 172 and arguably not meeting the conditions for holding an Air Traffic Services licence, insufficient staff, insufficient supervision, failing to meet the required standards, failing to comply with the required safety management system and on and on
Approval as an Air Traffic Services provider (Airservices Australia)
This instrument is CASA.172.0005 Revision No: 2 ó Approval as an Air Traffic Services provider (Airservices Australia).
This instrument:
(a) commences on 01 May 2022; and
(b) is repealed at the end of 30 April 2025.

Issued on 12 April 2022 by CASA.
Acting Branch Manager
Air Navigation, Airspace & Aerodromes National Operations & Standards
CASA Instrument Approval as an Air Traffic Services provider
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Surely FAA will soon ban all American carriers from using our airspace and demote us to third world status. We should have adopted the NZ CAA regs, shut down CASA and put aviation under direct ministerial control. The next would be to re-employ only the competent.
Ban all aviation regulation management and minister from Chairmanís Lounge and Virgin equivalent.
That all sounds spot on to me.
This whole ASA saga seems a problem that will take political decision making to repair.
What is to be done? It seems to me that the current mob of controllers are probably working hard in an environment that is stressful. The harder they work and the more stressed they become the more sick days theyíll take at a time where air traffic density is set to increase. I imagine there are controllers being trained but I canít imagine that is a solution due to the lengthy time involved and ( if itís anything like flying) the extra staff hours newbies suck up when they are learning the ropes.
The only way I can see to avoid rather embarrassing international headlines and a hit to the economy ( or heaven forbid a mid-air) is to bring in experienced controllers with training paths measured in weeks rather than years.
I fully admit zero experience in solving issues of this nature but would be interested to read peopleís opinions of a way out of the current situation.
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Nothing will happen from the minister until itís front page news.

Hopefully itís from an interested journo not a mid air.
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Are we on par with trying to crew an airliner with only 1 pilot-due operational restrictions?
Pretty much the same equivalent isnít it?Ö

Airliner min crew=2
A(n)sA min crew ____?
Whoís being accomodating/making the compromise to ďsafetyĒ?
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It’s high time the machines in this country were parked until this whole, third world, shitshow is sorted.

ASIC and aircrew screening
Nonsense regs. Hybrid load of horseshit that nobody understands anymore.
Airspace TIBA TRA Ballina
NOTAM
EAs
Medicals


Sort it before someone gets hurt….

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Originally Posted by framer
bring in experienced controllers with training paths measured in weeks rather than years.
While it's quicker to bring in experienced controllers the training saving isn't anywhere near as great as as a difference between weeks and years. You might reduce it by a third overall.

Not to mention that the tighter staffing is the less capacity you have to train on the job. There is no quick fix.

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Old 30th Jun 2023, 20:17
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Originally Posted by le Pingouin
While it's quicker to bring in experienced controllers the training saving isn't anywhere near as great as as a difference between weeks and years. You might reduce it by a third overall.

Not to mention that the tighter staffing is the less capacity you have to train on the job. There is no quick fix.
This is because Australia makes things way more difficult than they need to be.
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Old 30th Jun 2023, 21:46
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It's a pity that journalist from Crikey passed away, otherwise I think that he would have run a series of columns on it
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Originally Posted by havick
This is because Australia makes things way more difficult than they need to be.
Which is rather beside the point for fixing the current situation.
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Air Traffic Controllers are like Pilots and I'm sure we think the same way with regards to professionalism, training, experience and safety.

Bottom line is that there is a chronic shortage of experienced Air Traffic Controllers and Experienced Pilots within the Australian Aviation Arena at the moment, predominately due to the rubbish salaries being paid in Australia to very experienced professionals - it's absolutely insulting!!!!!

The last major airline accident in Australia was near Lockhart River that involved a Metroliner in 2005, that was attributed to pilot error.

It's only a matter of time before we have a major airline accident in Australia due to inexperienced personnel and inadequate training, that will involve an aeroplane a lot larger than a 19 seat Metroliner!

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Approval as an Air Traffic Services provider (Airservices Australia)
Issued by Acting Branch Manager, Air Navigation, Airspace & Aerodromes National Operations & Standards
Perhaps the real Branch Manager knew when to take their annual holidays...
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[QUOTE=Duck Pilot;11459838]Air Traffic Controllers are like Pilots and I'm sure we think the same way with regards to professionalism, training, experience and safety.

Bottom line is that there is a chronic shortage of experienced Air Traffic Controllers and Experienced Pilots within the Australian Aviation Arena at the moment/QUOTE]

I think a significant difference is airlines have staff rostered on call avbl to cover unplanned leave, so rarely would a flight get cancelled due to that reason. In ATC each group let's say has 20 staff,.10 are on duty already, and of the 10 that are off say there are 2 on REC, 1 on LSL, 1 on paternity, 1 away on a project, 1 on long term sick leave, then a couple are away for the days off and another couple not interested in extra OT $$s, and then that's it the cupboard is bare and airspace is turned off. So of those 10 that were off 3 years ago 2 got early retirement so now there are only 8 left anyway. Unless there is a system where u can have forced OT or have staff on call nothing can ever change. But to have staff on call requires a ton more staff and a ton more salaries.
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Originally Posted by 10JQKA
Unless there is a system where u can have forced OT or have staff on call nothing can ever change. But to have staff on call requires a ton more staff and a ton more salaries.
How many of the ATC Sector Groups / Towers / Approach are routinely using VOCS (Voluntary On-Call System)?
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BN FIR TIBA July 1 / July 2

BRISBANE FIR (YBBB)
C1049/23
TEMPO RESTRICTED AREA ACT
IN CTA CLASS A, C AND E AIRSPACE
ATS IN THE YBBB FIR SUBJECT TO CONTINGENCY DUE OPR RESTRICTIONS IN
THE FLW AIRSPACE:
BRISBANE CENTRE 132.35 BERRICO, 130.1 BERRICO, 120.55 BERRICO, 126.6
PORT MACQUARIE, 120.95 MOUNT MOOMBIL, 125.7 MT HEATON, AND 128.6
KINGS TABLELAND. DESIGNATED AIRSPACE HANDBOOK (DAH) SECTOR VOLUME
NAMES AFFECTED ARE: MYALL A, B, MAITLAND, MAITLAND/SYDNEY CAP,
MANNING, NAMBUCCA, OCEAN AND OCEAN/SYDNEY CAP.
CONTINGENCY MAP (LISTED AS MAITLAND/MANNING/NAMBUCCA/MYALL/OCEAN IN
THE BRISBANE FIR) AVBL AT
HTTPS://WWW.AIRSERVICESAUSTRALIA.COM...MAPS/INDEX.ASP
THE CARRIAGE AND USE OF TWO RADIOS IS REQUIRED FOR ENTRY TO THE
TEMPO RESTRICTED AREA. FREQUENCIES SHOWN ON THE CONTINGENCY MAPS ARE
MONITORED IN CASE OF EMERGENCY.
RELEVANT APPROVAL FROM CONTROLLING AUTHORITY REQUIRED.
PILOTS REQUESTING OPR IN CLASS A, C OR E AIRSPACE SHALL CTC
AIRSERVICES BY TEL ON +617 3866 3325 FOR ACCESS AUTHORITY.
AUTHORISATION TO ENTER THIS TEMPO RESTRICTED AREA DOES NOT CONSTITUTE
CLEARANCE TO ENTER ANY ADJ OR EMBEDDED RESTRICTED AREAS.
ATC SER NOT AVBL IN CLASS A, C AND E AIRSPACE.
FIS AVAILABLE ON REQUEST FROM HF AND MAY BE AVAILABLE FROM ADJ ATS
UNITS.
PILOTS/OPERATORS CONSIDERING OPERATING IFR IN CLASS G AIRSPACE SHALL
CTC
AIRSERVICES BY TEL 1300 879 535 FOR FURTHER INFO.
MILITARY OPERATIONS MAY EXIST IN THIS AREA, CHECK PUBLISHED NOTAMS.
PILOTS-IN-COMMAND ARE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR TERRAIN AND COLLISION
AVOIDANCE WITHIN THE AFFECTED AIRSPACE.
APRX AREA: NORTHEAST NEW SOUTH WALES - 45NM NORTHEAST YSSY TO YCFS.
15NM TO 200NM EAST YSSY FM 042 - 122 DEGREES
TWR, TERMINAL CONTROL UNIT (TCU) AND MILITARY AREAS WITHIN THE ABOVE
AIRSPACE CONTINUE TO OPERATE PER EN ROUTE SUPPLEMENT AUSTRALIA (ERSA)
UNLESS SPECIFIED OTHERWISE.
MAJOR ATS ROUTES:
A579 BTN JORDY AND SHAZA
B450 BTN NOBAR AND ABARB
B474 BTN NOBAR AND BEADS
B580 BTN NOBAR AND IFFEY
G595 BTN DIPSO AND SOTKI
H133 BTN ENTRA AND LOSKU
H185 BTN ENTRA AND BANDA
L521 BTN EVONN AND GEROS
M636 BTN CAWLY AND PLUGA
N774 BTN AKALU AND MARLN
UH258 BTN GOOMA AND RIKNI
UQ489 BTN NONID AND AVNIB
UY70 BTN ATNAT AND DUDEP
W106 BTN NICLA AND PMQ
V140 BTN TOOKI AND CFS
W170 BTN WLM AND MAKOR
W180 BTN 25NM SOUTH SANAD AND YAKKA
W182 BTN LOSKU AND WLM
W196 BTN UGPOT AND CFS
W214 BTN CFS AND MAKOR
W220 BTN GUNTA AND 40NM NORTHWEST MATLA
W284 BTN DONIC AND WLM
W342 BTN LOSKU AND OLTIN
W446 BTN NICLA AND 40NM SOUTH GFN
W603 BTN WLM AND VONNI
W608 BTN UGPOT AND SORTI
W768 BTN PMQ AND SORTI
Y43 BTN MATLA AND BANDA
Y84 BTN OPTIC AND TONIM
Y245 BTN ENTRA AND BANDA
ADS-C/CPDLC LOGON: YBBB SER NOT AVBL THIS AIRSPACE. AIRCRAFT MAY
REMAIN LOGGED ON BUT POSITION REPORTS MUST BE BCST ON THE APPROPRIATE
FREQ.
TIBA FREQUENCIES: AT OR ABOVE FL200 128.95 MHZ. BELOW FL200 126.35
MHZ, EXCEPT IN DOMESTIC CLASS G AIRSPACE WHERE THE CLASS G FREQ SHALL
BE USED.
TCAS AND TRANSPONDER EQPT MUST BE SELECTED ON AT ALL TIMES.
SFC TO FL600
FROM 07 011355 TO 07 011910


C1047/23
TEMPO RESTRICTED AREA ACT
ATS IN THE YBBB FIR SUBJECT TO CONTINGENCY DUE TO OPR RESTRICTIONS IN
THE FLW AIRSPACE:
BRISBANE CENTRE 133.2, 128.55 (SWAMPY RIDGE), 135.5 (MT BLACKWOOD),
134.7 (PROSERPINE), 120.55, (TABLETOP) 124.6 (BELLEDEN KER), 121.2
(SADDLE MOUNT), 134.65 (MOUNT PIEBALD) AND 120.15, 123.8 (HANN
TABLELAND). DESIGNATED AIRSPACE HANDBOOK (DAH) SECTOR VOLUME NAMES
AFFECTED ARE: SWAMPY A, B, TABLETOP A, B, BARRA A, B, AND KENNEDY A,
B.
CONTINGENCY MAP (LISTED UNDER BARRA/KENNEDY/TABLETOP/SWAMPY IN THE
BRISBANE FIR) AVBL AT
HTTPS://WWW.AIRSERVICESAUSTRALIA.COM...MAPS/INDEX.ASP
THE CARRIAGE AND USE OF TWO RADIOS IS REQUIRED FOR ENTRY TO THE TEMPO
RESTRICTED AREA.
RELEVANT APPROVAL FROM CONTROLLING AUTHORITY REQUIRED.
PILOTS REQUESTING OPR IN CLASS A, C AND E AIRSPACE SHALL CTC BRISBANE
CENTRE BY TEL ON 617 3866 3798 FOR ACCESS AUTHORITY.
AUTHORISATION TO ENTER THIS TEMPO RESTRICTED AREA DOES NOT CONSTITUTE
CLEARANCE TO ENTER ANY ADJ OR EMBEDDED RESTRICTED AREAS.
ATC SER NOT AVBL IN CLASS A, C AND E AIRSPACE. EXC THE CLASS C AND E
AIRSPACE CONTAINED WITHIN THE YBMK CTR AND CTA STEPS 22NM NORTH AND
36NM SOUTH OF YBMK BELOW 8500FT AMSL OUTSIDE OF YBMK TWR HOURS REFER
EN ROUTE SUP AUSTRALIA (ERSA).
TRAFFIC INFO AND SURVEILLANCE INFO SER NOT AVBL IN CLASS G AIRSPACE.
PILOTS/OPERATORS CONSIDERING OPERATING IFR IN CLASS G AIRSPACE SHALL
CTC BRISBANE CENTRE BY TEL ON 617 3866 3798 FOR FURTHER INFO.
MILITARY OPERATIONS MAY EXIST IN THIS AREA, CHECK PUBLISHED NOTAMS.
PILOTS-IN-COMMAND ARE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR TERRAIN AND COLLISION
AVOIDANCE WITHIN THE AFFECTED AIRSPACE.
APRX AREA: 150NM RADIUS YBCS. 115NM RADIUS YBTL - 250NM EAST YBTL AND
SOUTH TO APRX 65NM NORTH ROCKHAMPTON.
ANY TWR, TERMINAL CONTROL UNIT (TCU) AND MILITARY AREAS WITHIN THE
ABOVE AIRSPACE CONTINUE TO OPERATE AS PER ERSA UNLESS SPECIFIED
OTHERWISE.
MAJOR ATS ROUTES:
A216 BTN CS AND MEMIG
A346 BTN OVRON AND 140NM SOUTHEAST ELDEK
B220 BTN 40NM NORTH-NORTHWEST KELPI AND 80NM NORTH-NORTHWEST LAMEK
B462 BTN 70NM SOUTH NONIR AND OVRON
B473 BTN MEMOS AND CS
G205 BTN OVRON AND 75NM NORTH LAMEK
G342 BTN CS AND 50NM SOUTHWEST NONIR
G591 BTN 60NM SOUTHEAST LAMEK AND CS
H12 BTN MK AND 40NM SOUTH MAGRA
H105 BTN 70NM SOUTH NITIT AND OVRON
J61 BTN ANDEE AND CS
J64 BTN 20NM NORTHEAST ONARA AND CS
J138 BTN 40NM EAST ONARA AND TL
J151 BTN CS AND KOOKA
J184 BTN TL AND 35NM WEST-SOUTHWEST WISKA
J917 BTN CS AND 55NM SOUTHWEST TENCH
Q30 BTN TL AND MATAR
Q67 BTN RUNLA AND CS
Q71 BTN ANRUB AND DOBGO
Q76 BTN LAKOT AND NONUM
Q165 BTN 170NM SOUTH-SOUTHEAST VOMPA AND TL
Q499 BTN VOMPA AND NONUM
R204 BTN KIMMI AND CS
R210 BTN CS AND PUPEB
R213 BTN 50NM SOUTHWEST WYNOT AND TL
R346 BTN 35NM SOUTH BENKI AND TL
UQ493 BTN RUNLA AND PROBO
UY495 BTN PN AND COCKA
V153 BTN CS AND LERKI
V176 BTN MK AND CLIFT
V308 BTN PROBO AND CS
V527 BTN PN AND BITAS
W112 BTN OVRON AND 5NM NORTHWEST ALBUX
W228 BTN LINSU AND COCKA
W232 BTN TL AND LUKPU
W240 BTN LUKPU AND ESLAR
W258 BTN TL AND LERKI
W265 BTN TL AND THOMO
W281 BTN CS AND ELNOT
W309 BTN CS AND TAMED
W319 BTN NONUM AND ISMUN
W364 BTN TRUDY AND 70NM NORTHEAST HUG
W387 BTN MK AND ISMUN
W469 BTN TL AND 50NM NORTHEAST HUG
W472 BTN MK AND 45NM NORTH-NORTHEAST EML
W518 BTN NIPOM AND PUMET
W528 BTN TL AND VIPUB
W567 BTN CS AND BENTA
W592 BTN MK AND 45NM NORTH EML
W613 BTN TL AND ESLAR
W637 BTN TL AND KALVI
W660 BTN TL AND 30NM NORTHEAST ENSAB
W677 BTN GUPDA AND MUNEL
W685 BTN OVRON AND 50NM WEST HUG
W727 BTN NIPOM AND YMMU
W793 BTN NOMUM AND FASIE
W806 BTN PN AND 40NM NORTH-NORTHEAST EML
W841 BTN TL AND ISMUN
W889 BTN MK AND VANVA
Y32 BTN ELDEK AND 120NM SOUTH-SOUTHEAST ELDEK
Y34 BTN 35NM EAST-NORTHEAST HUG AND BATIR
Y61 BTN POONA AND 80NM SOUTH-SOUTHEAST POONA
Y80 BTN LAKOT AND VOMPA
Y153 BTN STAIR AND SWIFT
Y177 BTN CS AND COCKA
Z11 BTN CS AND MASHA
Z17 BTN SWIFT AND OVRON
Z25 BTN SWIFT AND ALBUX
Z42 BTN CS AND VAKSA
Z51 BTN TL AND 35NM EAST KADMU
ZZ910 BTN FARMA AND NONUM
ZZ929 BTN TL AND EYSAW
VHF FIS AND SAR ALERTING ARE NOT AVBL ON THE FREQUENCIES LISTED
ABOVE. LIMITED FIS MAY BE AVAILABLE ON REQUEST FROM ADJ ATS UNITS OR
HF. TRAFFIC INFO IS NOT AVBL.
ADS-C/CPDLC LOGON: YBBB SER NOT AVBL THIS AIRSPACE. ACFT MAY REMAIN
LOGGED ON BUT POSITION REPORTS MUST BE BCST ON THE APPROPRIATE FREQ.
TIBA FREQUENCIES: AT OR ABOVE FL200 128.95 MHZ. BELOW FL200 126.35
MHZ, EXC IN DOMESTIC CLASS G AIRSPACE WHERE THE CLASS G FREQU SHALL
BE USED. TCAS AND TRANSPONDER EQPT MUST BE SELECTED ON AT ALL TIMES.
SFC TO FL600
FROM 07 011300 TO 07 011915
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ML FIR TIBA July 1 / July 2

C1111/23
TEMPO RESTRICTED AREA ACT
IN CTA CLASS E AIRSPACE.
ATS IN THE YMMM FIR SUBJECT TO CONTINGENCY DUE TO OPR RESTRICTIONS IN
THE FLW AIRSPACE:
MELBOURNE CENTRE 134.65 (RIVERINA AREA NEW SOUTH WALES). DESIGNATED
AIRSPACE HANDBOOK (DAH) SECTOR VOLUME NAMES AFFECTED ARE: 'TEMORA A
AND B'.
CONTINGENCY MAP (LISTED UNDER TEMORA IN THE MELBOURNE FIR) AVBL AT
HTTP://WWW.AIRSERVICESAUSTRALIA.COM/NOTAMMAPS/INDEX.ASP
THE CARRIAGE AND USE OF TWO RADIOS IS REQUIRED FOR ENTRY TO THE
RESTRICTED AREA. FREQUENCIES SHOWN ON THE CONTINGENCY MAPS ARE
MONITORED IN CASE OF EMERGENCY.
RELEVANT APPROVAL FROM CONTROLLING AUTHORITY REQUIRED.
PILOTS REQUESTING OPR IN CLASS E AIRSPACE SHALL CTC MELBOURNE CENTRE
TEL: (PLUS) 61 3 9235 7455 FOR ACCESS AUTHORITY.
AUTHORISATION TO ENTER THIS TEMPO RESTRICTED AREA DOES NOT CONSTITUTE
CLEARANCE TO ENTER ANY ADJ OR EMBEDDED RESTRICTED AREAS.
ATC SER NOT AVBL IN CLASS E AIRSPACE.
FIS AVAILABLE ON REQUEST FROM HF AND MAY BE AVAILABLE FROM ADJ ATS
UNITS.
PILOTS/OPERATORS CONSIDERING OPR IN CLASS G SHALL CTC MELBOURNE
CENTRE TEL: (PLUS) 61 3 9235 7455 FOR FURTHER INFO.
MILITARY OPERATIONS MAY EXIST IN THIS AREA, CHECK PUBLISHED NOTAMS.
PILOTS-IN-COMMAND ARE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR TERRAIN AND COLLISION
AVOIDANCE WITHIN THE AFFECTED AIRSPACE.
APRX AREA A: VELGI, SCAPA, ASUMU, 15NM NORTH WG VOR, 20NM SOUTH
VINOP, 30NM WEST BORLI, YHLS, 20NM NORTH YLCG, VELGI.
VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC - FL245

APRX AREA B: VELGI, 20NM NORTH YLCG, 30NM NORTH YLCG, 15NM NORTHWEST
PKS VOR, VELGI.
VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC - FL125
TWR, TERMINAL CONTROL UNIT (TCU) AND MIL AREAS WITHIN THE ABOVE
AIRSPACE CONTINUE TO OPR AS PER EN ROUTE SUP AUSTRALIA (ERSA) UNLESS
SPECIFIED OTHERWISE.
MAJOR ATS ROUTES:
H44 BTN 30NM WEST CWR NDB AND 30NM WEST BORLI
ROUTES TO/FM BORLI (WITHIN 30NM TO THE WEST AND 100NM EAST)
Q923 BETWEEN 30NM AND 140NM SOUTH PKS VOR
ADS-C/CPDLC LOGON: YMMM SER NOT AVBL THIS AIRSPACE. ACFT MAY REMAIN
LOGGED ON BUT POSITION REPORTS MUST BE BCST ON THE APPROPRIATE FREQ.
TRAFFIC INFO BCST BY ACFT (TIBA) PROCEDURES AS DETAILED IN AIP APPLY.
TIBA FREQUENCIES: AT OR ABOVE FL200 128.95 MHZ. BELOW FL200 126.35
MHZ, EXC IN DOMESTIC CLASS G AIRSPACE WHERE THE CLASS G FREQ SHALL BE
USED.
TCAS AND TRANSPONDER EQPT MUST BE SELECTED ON AT ALL TIMES.
SFC TO FL245
FROM 07 011330 TO 07 011915


C1110/23
TEMPO RESTRICTED AREA ACT
IN CTA CLASS C AND E AIRSPACE.
ATS IN THE YMMM FIR SUBJECT TO CONTINGENCY DUE TO OPR RESTRICTIONS IN
THE FLW AIRSPACE:
MELBOURNE CENTRE 123.9, 135.25 AND 118.5 (NEW SOUTH WALES CENTRAL
TABLELANDS, DUBBO, WARREN, TOTTENHAM AREA). DESIGNATED AIRSPACE
HANDBOOK (DAH) SECTOR VOLUME NAMES AFFECTED ARE: 'BATHURST A, B, C, D
AND E' AND 'DUBBO A, B AND C'.
CONTINGENCY MAP (LISTED UNDER BATHURST/DUBBO IN THE MELBOURNE FIR)
AVBL AT HTTP://WWW.AIRSERVICESAUSTRALIA.COM/NOTAMMAPS/INDEX.ASP
THE CARRIAGE AND USE OF TWO RADIOS IS REQUIRED FOR ENTRY TO THE
RESTRICTED AREA. FREQUENCIES SHOWN ON THE CONTINGENCY MAPS ARE
MONITORED IN CASE OF EMERGENCY.
RELEVANT APPROVAL FROM CONTROLLING AUTHORITY REQUIRED.
PILOTS REQUESTING OPR IN CLASS C OR E AIRSPACE SHALL CTC MELBOURNE
CENTRE TEL: (PLUS) 61 3 9235 7455 FOR ACCESS AUTHORITY.
AUTHORISATION TO ENTER THIS TEMPO RESTRICTED AREA DOES NOT CONSTITUTE
CLEARANCE TO ENTER ANY ADJ OR EMBEDDED RESTRICTED AREAS.
ATC SER NOT AVBL IN CLASS C AND E AIRSPACE.
FIS AVAILABLE ON REQUEST FROM HF AND MAY BE AVAILABLE FROM ADJ ATS
UNITS.
PILOTS/OPERATORS CONSIDERING OPR IN CLASS G SHALL CTC MELBOURNE
CENTRE TEL: (PLUS) 61 3 9235 7455 FOR FURTHER INFO.
MILITARY OPERATIONS MAY EXIST IN THIS AREA, CHECK PUBLISHED NOTAMS.
PILOTS-IN-COMMAND ARE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR TERRAIN AND COLLISION
AVOIDANCE WITHIN THE AFFECTED AIRSPACE.

APRX AREA A: 5NM SOUTH KADOM, 30NM NORTHWEST AKMIR, 10NM EAST YYNG,
12NM SOUTHEAST PKS VOR, MUDGI, 20NM NORTHWEST YSRI, SOUTH ALONG 45NM
ARC SY DME, 5NM SOUTH KADOM.
VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC - FL180
APRX AREA B: 10NM SOUTH SCAPA, VELGI, 30NM SOUTHWEST DU NDB, 40NM
SOUTHWEST MUDGI, 12NM SOUTHEAST PKS VOR, 10NM EAST SCAPA, 10NM SOUTH
SCAPA.
VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC - FL245
APRX AREA C: 30NM SOUTHWEST YSDU, 40NM SOUTHWEST MUDGI, MUDGI, 15NM
NORTHEAST DU NDB, 30NM SOUTHWEST DU NDB.
VERTICAL LIMITS: FL180 - FL245
APRX AREA D: 20NM WEST CNM, 10NM NORTH YNYN, 30NM NORTH YLCG, 15NM
NORTHWEST PKS NDB, DU NDB, 15NM NORTHEAST YSDU, 20NM WEST YCNM.
VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC - FL245
APRX AREA E: 30NM SOUTHWEST DU NDB, 40NM SOUTHWEST MUDGI, MUDGI, 15NM
NORTHEAST DU NDB, 30NM SOUTHWEST DU NDB.
VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC - FL180
APRX AREA F: 30NM NORTH YLCG, 20NM NORTH YLCG, 20NM WEST ATVAK, 10NM
NORTHWEST VELGI, 15NM NORTHWEST PKS NDB, 30NM NORTH YLCG.
VERTICAL LIMITS: FL125 - FL245
TWR, TERMINAL CONTROL UNIT (TCU) AND MIL AREAS WITHIN THE ABOVE
AIRSPACE CONTINUE TO OPERATE AS PER EN ROUTE SUP AUSTRALIA (ERSA)
UNLESS SPECIFIED OTHERWISE.
MAJOR ATS ROUTES:
KADOM TO BTH NDB, CWR NDB, VIRUR, PKS VOR AND 50NM SOUTHEAST DU NDB
PKS, VIRUR BTH NDB AND 50NM SOUTH DU NDB, TO 30NM NORTH AKMIR
UH226 BTN 15NM YSRI AND ENPAG
H44 BTH KADOM AND 30NM WEST OF CWR NDB

Q923 BTN GIZMO AND 25NM SOUTHWEST PKS VOR
H66 BTN ABM 120NM SOUTH MUDGI AND MUDGI
V295 BTN 45NM YSSY TO 50NM SOUTHEAST DU NDB
W540 BTN DU NDB AND HUMOK
W731 BTN DU NDB AND LLAMA
W516 BTN DU NDB AND 75NM WEST DU NDB
W822 BTN DU NDB AND HILAR
W785 BTN DU NDB AND MUDGI
W760 AND W326 BTN DU NDB AND 20NM NORTHEAST DU NDB
ADS-C/CPDLC LOGON: YMMM SER NOT AVBL THIS AIRSPACE. ACFT MAY REMAIN
LOGGED ON BUT POSITION REPORTS MUST BE BCST ON THE APPROPRIATE FREQ.
TRAFFIC INFO BCST BY ACFT (TIBA) PROCEDURES AS DETAILED IN AIP APPLY.
TIBA FREQUENCIES: AT OR ABOVE FL200 128.95 MHZ. BELOW FL200 126.35
MHZ, EXC IN DOMESTIC CLASS G AIRSPACE WHERE THE CLASS G FREQ SHALL BE
USED.
TCAS AND TRANSPONDER EQPT MUST BE SELECTED ON AT ALL TIMES.
SFC TO FL245
FROM 07 011330 TO 07 011915


C1109/23
TEMPO RESTRICTED AREA ACT
IN CTA CLASS E AIRSPACE.
ATS IN THE YMMM FIR SUBJECT TO CONTINGENCY DUE OPR RESTRICTIONS IN
THE FLW AIRSPACE:
MELBOURNE CENTRE 125.8, 122.1, 118.6, 124.3, 120.3 AND 135.45
(WESTERN VICTORIA, SOUTH-EASTERN SOUTH AUSTRALIA AND SOUTH-WEST NEW
SOUTH WALES). DESIGNATED AIRSPACE HANDBOOK (DAH) SECTOR VOLUME NAMES
AFFECTED ARE: 'MALLEE A, B, AND C'.
CONTINGENCY MAP (LISTED UNDER MALLEE IN THE MELBOURNE FIR) AVBL AT
HTTP://WWW.AIRSERVICESAUSTRALIA.COM/NOTAMMAPS/INDEX.ASP
THE CARRIAGE AND USE OF TWO RADIOS IS REQUIRED FOR ENTRY TO THE
RESTRICTED AREA. FREQUENCIES SHOWN ON THE CONTINGENCY MAPS ARE
MONITORED IN CASE OF EMERGENCY.
RELEVANT APPROVAL FROM CONTROLLING AUTHORITY REQUIRED.
PILOTS REQUESTING OPR IN CLASS E AIRSPACE SHALL CTC MELBOURNE CENTRE
TEL: (PLUS) 61 3 9235 7455 FOR ACCESS AUTHORITY.
AUTHORISATION TO ENTER THIS TEMPO RESTRICTED AREA DOES NOT CONSTITUTE
CLEARANCE TO ENTER ANY ADJ OR EMBEDDED RESTRICTED AREAS.
ATC SER NOT AVBL IN CLASS E AIRSPACE.
FIS AVAILABLE ON REQUEST FROM HF AND MAY BE AVAILABLE FROM ADJ ATS
UNITS.
PILOTS/OPERATORS CONSIDERING OPR IN CLASS G SHALL CTC MELBOURNE
CENTRE TEL: (PLUS) 61 3 9235 7455 FOR FURTHER INFO.
PILOTS-IN-COMMAND ARE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR TERRAIN AND COLLISION
AVOIDANCE WITHIN THE AFFECTED AIRSPACE.

MILITARY OPERATIONS MAY EXIST IN THIS AREA, CHECK PUBLISHED NOTAMS.
APRX AREA: MEECE, 14NM NORTHWEST ALTRO, 12NM SOUTHEAST KONDO, PILTA,
YIVO, YHLS, BORLI, VINOP, WG VOR, YYWG, 100NM ARC ML, YCTY, 39S 139
30E, YRBE, 110NM SOUTH AD VOR, 100NM SOUTH AD VOR, 100NM ARC AD VOR,
MEECE.
TWR, TERMINAL CONTROL UNIT (TCU) AND MIL AREAS WITHIN THE ABOVE
AIRSPACE CONTINUE TO OPR AS PER EN ROUTE SUP AUSTRALIA (ERSA) UNLESS
SPECIFIED OTHERWISE.
MAJOR ATS ROUTES:
H102 BTN MIA NDB AND NATYA
T131 BTN BORTO AND 120NM BORTO
J21 BTN KABEK AND BORLI
H21 BTN NATYA AND WG VOR
H36 BTN 40NM EAST BENDO AND 20NM WEST KACEY
H44 BTN BORLI AND 100NM YPAD
Q76 BTN 50NM NORTH MNG AND 80NM NORTH TOBOB
H119 BTN 150NM NORTH NATYA AND 100NM NORTH CANTY
H247 BTN PANKI AND 80NM CULIN
H345 BTN NEVIS AND DUKES
J19 BTN NATYA AND 60NM SOUTH BHI VOR
J142 BTN 100NM WEST NONUP AND BORTO
Q32 BTN BORLI AND 100NM EAST YPAD
Q60 BTN 30NM WEST WG VOR AND WOONA
Q923 PKS VOR AND 60NM NORTH CANTY
Q158 BTN 100NM YMML AND CRENA
Q168 BTN 100NM YMML AND 50NM SOUTH EAST KABEK
T8 BTN WYMER AND CRENA
Y425 BTN UBDIB AND ALASU
Y23 BTN UBDIB AND 50NM EAST VENEL
T134 BTN 70NM EAST AND 80NM WEST NOGIP
UQ346 BTN BORLI AND POLSO
Y12 BTN 100NM YPAD AND 100NM YMML
Y23 BETWEEN UBDIB AND 60NM WEST VENEL
Y53 BTN 60NM WEST YMTG AND TYNDI
Y218 BTN 50NM EAST BENDO AND TYNDI
W245 BTN YHML AND 100NM YMML

ADS-C/CPDLC LOGON: YMMM SER NOT AVBL THIS AIRSPACE. ACFT MAY REMAIN
LOGGED ON BUT POSITION REPORTS MUST BE BCST ON THE APPROPRIATE FREQ.
TRAFFIC INFO BCST BY ACFT (TIBA) PROCEDURES AS DETAILED IN AIP.
TIBA FREQUENCIES: AT OR ABOVE FL200 128.95 MHZ. BELOW FL200 126.35
MHZ, EXC IN DOMESTIC CLASS G AIRSPACE WHERE THE CLASS G FREQ SHALL BE
USED.
TCAS AND TRANSPONDER EQPT MUST BE SELECTED ON AT ALL TIMES.
SFC TO FL245
FROM 07 011330 TO 07 011915


C1108/23
TEMPO RESTRICTED AREA ACT
IN CTA CLASS A, C AND E AIRSPACE.
ATS IN THE YMMM FIR SUBJECT TO CONTINGENCY DUE TO OPR RESTRICTIONS IN
THE FLW AIRSPACE:
MELBOURNE CENTRE 123.9, 123.95, 130.3, 122.6, 120.7 AND 126.5
(TASMANIA AND BASS STRAIT). DESIGNATED AIRSPACE HANDBOOK (DAH) SECTOR
VOLUME NAMES AFFECTED ARE: 'HUON A, B AND C'.
OUTSIDE ERSA TWR/APP HRS, THE FLW AIRSPACE IS ALSO AFFECTED:
MELBOURNE CENTRE 123.8, 125.55 (TASMANIA). DESIGNATED AIRSPACE
HANDBOOK (DAH) SECTOR VOLUME NAMES AFFECTED ARE: 'HOBART APPROACH'
AND 'LAUNCESTON APPROACH'.
CONTINGENCY MAP (LISTED UNDER TASMANIA/HUON IN THE MELBOURNE FIR)
AVBL AT HTTP://WWW.AIRSERVICESAUSTRALIA.COM/NOTAMMAPS/INDEX.ASP
THE CARRIAGE AND USE OF TWO RADIOS IS REQUIRED FOR ENTRY TO THE
RESTRICTED AREA. FREQUENCIES SHOWN ON THE CONTINGENCY MAPS ARE
MONITORED IN CASE OF EMERGENCY.
RELEVANT APPROVAL FROM CONTROLLING AUTHORITY REQUIRED.
PILOTS REQUESTING OPR IN CLASS A, C OR E AIRSPACE SHALL CTC MELBOURNE
CENTRE TEL: (PLUS) 61 3 9235 7455 FOR ACCESS AUTHORITY.
AUTHORISATION TO ENTER THIS TEMPO RESTRICTED AREA DOES NOT CONSTITUTE
CLEARANCE TO ENTER ANY ADJ OR EMBEDDED RESTRICTED AREAS.
ATC SER NOT AVBL IN CLASS A, C AND E AIRSPACE.
FIS AVAILABLE ON REQUEST FROM HF AND MAY BE AVAILABLE FROM ADJ ATS
UNITS.
PILOTS/OPERATORS CONSIDERING OPR IFR IN CLASS G SHALL CTC MELBOURNE
CENTRE TEL: (PLUS) 61 3 9235 7455 FOR FURTHER INFO.

MILITARY OPERATIONS MAY EXIST IN THIS AREA, CHECK PUBLISHED NOTAMS.
PILOTS-IN-COMMAND ARE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR TERRAIN AND COLLISION
AVOIDANCE WITHIN THE AFFECTED AIRSPACE.
APRX AREA: BTN 141E AND 151E, SOUTH OF THE AUSTRALIAN MAINLAND, AND
SOUTH OF PUBLISHED ATS ROUTES BETWEEN YMML AND NEW ZEALAND, NORTH OF
44S.
TWR, TERMINAL CONTROL UNIT (TCU) AND MIL AREAS WITHIN THE ABOVE
AIRSPACE CONTINUE TO OPERATE AS PER EN ROUTE SUP AUSTRALIA (ERSA)
UNLESS SPECIFIED OTHERWISE.
MAJOR ATS ROUTES:
ALL ROUTES WITHIN TASMANIA
ALL ROUTES BTN MAINLAND AUSTRALIA AND TASMANIA
ALL ROUTES TO AND FROM KII AND NUNPA
L513 BTN TUNGO AND HEWIT
M643 BTN HB VOR AND PECOB
ADS-C/CPDLC LOGON: YMMM SER NOT AVBL THIS AIRSPACE. ACFT MAY REMAIN
LOGGED ON BUT POSITION REPORTS MUST BE BCST ON THE APPROPRIATE FREQ.
TRAFFIC INFO BCST BY ACFT (TIBA) PROCEDURES AS DETAILED IN AIP APPLY.
TIBA FREQUENCIES: AT OR ABOVE FL200 128.95 MHZ. BELOW FL200 126.35
MHZ, EXC IN DOMESTIC CLASS G AIRSPACE WHERE THE CLASS G FREQ SHALL BE
USED.
TCAS AND TRANSPONDER EQPT MUST BE SELECTED ON AT ALL TIMES.
SFC TO FL600
FROM 07 011330 TO 07 011915
Need more ATCs in the crisper!!
At this rate the NOF will need more staff.
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[QUOTE=10JQKA;11459857]
Originally Posted by Duck Pilot
Air Traffic Controllers are like Pilots and I'm sure we think the same way with regards to professionalism, training, experience and safety.

Bottom line is that there is a chronic shortage of experienced Air Traffic Controllers and Experienced Pilots within the Australian Aviation Arena at the moment/QUOTE]

I think a significant difference is airlines have staff rostered on call avbl to cover unplanned leave, so rarely would a flight get cancelled due to that reason. In ATC each group let's say has 20 staff,.10 are on duty already, and of the 10 that are off say there are 2 on REC, 1 on LSL, 1 on paternity, 1 away on a project, 1 on long term sick leave, then a couple are away for the days off and another couple not interested in extra OT $$s, and then that's it the cupboard is bare and airspace is turned off. So of those 10 that were off 3 years ago 2 got early retirement so now there are only 8 left anyway. Unless there is a system where u can have forced OT or have staff on call nothing can ever change. But to have staff on call requires a ton more staff and a ton more salaries.
The airline I currently work for regularly cancel flights because they havenít got crew. They parked the whole Daah 8 fleet up one occasion very recently as they didnít have crew.
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