AsA TIBA/TRA/OPR Restrictions

[Chronic Snoozer]

Yes, it's a shame the amount of overtime being worked and manning levels wasn't leaked via memo to the same journo.

[sunnySA]

Originally Posted by sunnySA

Sydney.

Change

B286/23 REVIEW B285/23 NON PRIORITY AERIAL WORK NOT AVBL WITHIN 45NM OF SYDNEY AD
DUE OPERATIONAL RESTRICTIONS.
FOR PRIORITY AERIAL WORK CONTACT TEL: [phone]
FROM 07 120130 TO 07 120400

B285/23 was 0100 to 0400.

[sunnySA]

YSSY

And speaking of Sydney. YSSY ATIS

WHEN READY FOR PUSH BACK OR TAXI CTC COORDINATOR 127.6

Is this another example of staff shortages?

[morno]

Nope, been like that for years, mostly for COBT compliance.

[SixDemonBag]

This whole thread has lost its original intent. Please stop cut and pasting NOTAMS. We get it. We read them every time we go to work.

[CaptCloudbuster]

Originally Posted by SixDemonBag

This whole thread has lost its original intent. Please stop cut and pasting NOTAMS. We get it. We read them every time we go to work.

Stop reading this thread then

The very 1st post was a notam cut & paste

To collate en masse, easily accessible, here on a site known to be frequented by “ aviation media journalists” an undeniable paper trail of an obvious accident waiting to happen is precisely the original intent!

[ausatc123]

Originally Posted by CaptCloudbuster

Stop reading this thread then

To collate en masse, easily accessible, here on a site know to be frequented by “ aviation media journalists” an undeniable paper trail of an obvious accident waiting to happen is precisely the original intent!

Yea, I'm all for it... even better if someone also maintains a table of the number of times sectors are closed, or restricted.

[SixDemonBag]

Originally Posted by ausatc123

Yea, I'm all for it... even better if someone also maintains a table of the number of times sectors are closed, or restricted.

yeah, good idea. You do it

[sunnySA]

YBBN

B1046/23
ATS OPR AT REDUCED CAPACITY
DUE TO OPERATIONAL RESTRICTIONS IN THE FOLLOWING AIRSPACE:
DESIGNATED AIRSPACE HANDBOOK (DAH) SECTOR VOLUME NAME AFFECTED IS:
'BRISBANE APPROACH BRISBANE'. INCLUDES CLASS C AIRSPACE WI 30NM OF
YBBN VOR/DME BLW FL180
YBBB/BRISBANE APCH 124.7 AND 125.6.
YBBB/BRISBANE DEPARTURES 133.45 AND 118.45.
CONTINGENCY MAPS (LISTED UNDER BRISBANE APCH/DEPARTURE IN THE
BRISBANE FIR AVBL AT
HTTP://WWW.AIRSERVICESAUSTRALIA.COM/NOTAMMAPS/INDEX.ASP
AWK ACFT MAY BE SUBJ TO DELAYS AND RESTRICTIONS
FOR FURTHER INFO CTC AIRSERVICES AUSTRALIA ON 1300 272 662 WITHIN
AUSTRALIA OR [phone] OUTSIDE AUSTRALIA.
BASE OF CTA TO FL180
FROM 07 120600 TO 07 121200

Brisbane.

[sunnySA]

YBNA

B1047/23
BALLINA SURVEILLANCE FLIGHT INFORMATION SERVICE (SFIS) NOT AVBL
DUE OPR RESTRICTIONS. BALLINA BROADCAST AREA REMAINS CLASS G AS PER
AIP - OUTSIDE SURVEILLANCE FLIGHT INFORMATION SERVICE (SFIS) HR
COMMON TRAFFIC ADVISORY FREQ 124.2
SFC TO 8500FT AMSL
FROM 07 122200 TO 07 130800
2307122200 TO 2307122300
2307130100 TO 2307130140
2307130300 TO 2307130350
2307130500 TO 2307130540
2307130700 TO 2307130800

Ballina. Start late, finish early, ON & OFF, OFF & ON.
Service. Remind me, what is the start date for the Tower?

[sunnySA]

YBBB TRA

C1138/23
TEMPO RESTRICTED AREA ACT
IN CTA CLASS A, C AND E AIRSPACE. ATS IN THE YBBB FIR SUBJECT TO
CONTINGENCY DUE TO OPR RESTRICTIONS IN THE FLW AIRSPACE:
BRISBANE CENTRE 119.55 MT ALMA, 124.1 BUNDABERG, 125.9 MT ALMA AND
124.6 MARYBOROUGH. DESIGNATED AIRSPACE HANDBOOK (DAH) SECTOR VOLUME
NAMES AFFECTED ARE: KEPPEL AND ALMA A, B.
CONTINGENCY MAP (LISTED UNDER ALMA AND KEPPEL IN THE BRISBANE FIR)
AVBL AT HTTPS://WWW.AIRSERVICESAUSTRALIA.COM...MAPS/INDEX.ASP
THE CARRIAGE AND USE OF TWO RADIOS IS REQUIRED FOR ENTRY TO THE TEMPO
RESTRICTED AREA.
RELEVANT APPROVAL FROM CONTROLLING AUTHORITY REQUIRED.
PILOTS REQUESTING OPR IN CLASS A, C AND E AIRSPACE SHALL CTC BRISBANE
CENTRE BY TEL ON 617 3866 3798 FOR ACCESS AUTHORITY.
AUTHORISATION TO ENTER THIS TEMPO RESTRICTED AREA DOES NOT CONSTITUTE
CLEARANCE TO ENTER ANY ADJ OR EMBEDDED RESTRICTED AREAS.
ATC SER NOT AVBL IN CLASS A, C AND E AIRSPACE.
EXC THE CLASS C AND E AIRSPACE CONTAINED WITHIN THE YBRK CTR AND CTA
STEPS 36NM NORTH AND 36NM SOUTH OF YBRK BELOW A085 OUTSIDE OF YBRK
TWR HOURS. REFER EN ROUTE SUP AUSTRALIA (ERSA).
TRAFFIC INFO AND SURVEILLANCE INFO SER NOT AVBL IN CLASS G AIRSPACE.
PILOTS/OPERATORS CONSIDERING OPERATING IFR IN CLASS G AIRSPACE SHALL
CTC BRISBANE CENTRE BY TEL ON 617 3866 3798 FOR FURTHER INFO.
MILITARY OPERATIONS MAY EXIST IN THIS AREA, CHECK PUBLISHED NOTAMS.
PILOTS-IN-COMMAND ARE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR TERRAIN AND COLLISION
AVOIDANCE WITHIN THE AFFECTED AIRSPACE.
APRX AREA: SOUTHEAST QUEENSLAND, 90NM EITHER SIDE OF THE COASTLINE,
FROM 90NM NORTH OF BRISBANE TO 70NM NORTH OF ROCKHAMPTON.
ANY TWR, TERMINAL CONTROL UNIT (TCU) AND MILITARY AREAS WITHIN THE
ABOVE AIRSPACE CONTINUE TO OPERATE AS PER ERSA UNLESS SPECIFIED
OTHERWISE.
MAJOR ATS ROUTES:
A346 BTN 65NM NORTHWEST LEEAM AND 135NM SOUTHEAST ELDEK
A464 BTN 75NM SOUTHEAST UNVAT AND 35NM SOUTHEAST UNVAT
B220 BTN KELPI AND 45NM NORTHWEST KELPI
Q24 BTN TERUV AND KELPI
Q64 BTN LOAFA AND OLDIB
Q67 BTN 30NM SOUTHEAST LOAFA AND RUNLA
UY409 BTN 75NM NORTHWEST BESBO AND BESBO
V99 BTN BUDGI AND SUSGI
V111 BTN RK AND RUROX
V129 BTN 35NM NORTHWEST HAWKE AND COOLA
V153 BTN LERKI AND RK
V307 BTN RK AND SUSGI
V308 BTN 30NM SOUTHEAST MAGPI AND EMSUP
V327 BTN 30NM EAST UNVAT AND 35NM WEST HAWKE
W186 BTN SUSGI AND KRATT
W228 BTN COCKA AND SUSGI
W231 BTN KASPA AND GLA
W240 BTN 25NM WEST LEMER AND RK
W247 BTN 25NM WEST RUROX AND SOSTU
W338 BTN RK AND BIMAV
W347 BTN GLA AND SUSGI
W512 BTN 30NM NORTHWEST RUROX AND GLA
W518 BTN 30NM NORTHWEST PUMET AND RK
W636 BTN BUD AND RK
W664 BTN RK AND KANBU
W693 BTN SUSGI AND KANLU
W699 BTN HAAVI AND SUSGI
W889 BTN RK AND VANVA
Y177 BTN COCKA AND BESBO
Y32 BTN 120NM SOUTHEAST ELDEK AND 40NM NORTHWEST REBEG
Y61 BTN 75NM SOUTHEAST POONA AND RUROX
Y89 BTN KELPI AND BESBO
VHF FIS AND SAR ALERTING ARE NOT AVBL ON THE FREQUENCIES LISTED
ABOVE. LIMITED FIS MAY BE AVAILABLE ON REQUEST FROM ADJ ATS UNITS OR
HF. TRAFFIC INFO IS NOT AVBL.
ADS-C/CPDLC LOGON: YBBB SER NOT AVBL THIS AIRSPACE. ACFT MAY REMAIN
LOGGED ON BUT POSITION REPORTS MUST BE BCST ON THE APPROPRIATE FREQ.
TIBA FREQUENCIES: AT OR ABOVE FL200 128.95 MHZ. BELOW FL200 126.35
MHZ, EXC IN DOMESTIC CLASS G AIRSPACE WHERE THE CLASS G FREQ SHALL BE
USED. TCAS AND TRANSPONDER EQPT MUST BE SELECTED ON AT ALL TIMES.
SUGGESTED DIVERSION AIR ROUTES TO REMAIN CLEAR OF KEPPEL AND ALMA
TEMPO RESTRICTED AIRSPACE
DEPARTURES
FROM YBBN TO YBCS AREA: BN BIXAD A598 PONUX LEEAM LAMEK (THEN REJOIN
REQUESTED ROUTE)
FROM YBBN TO YBRK/YBMK/YBTL AND NORTHWEST: BN V250 LEBIT LIKTO (THEN
REJOIN REQUESTED ROUTE)
ARRIVALS
TO YBBN FROM THE NORTH AND NORTHWEST: BEPNA Y79 WOODY BN
SFC TO FL600
FROM 07 121345 TO 07 121900

Up the creek coast.

[sunnySA]

Intent of the thread

Originally Posted by SixDemonBag

This whole thread has lost its original intent. Please stop cut and pasting NOTAMS. We get it. We read them every time we go to work.

Hi, the intent of the thread is to highlight the operational risks that Australian Aviation is facing with the service providers not providing a service, not meeting their service obligations.

And this thread has elicited responses from Advance (and others) who has challenged what AsA are doing (not doing). The NOTAMs are complex, I get it and I really feel for pilots who are facing this on a daily basis. Not just Brisbane and Melbourne Centre, it's across other parts of the country and not everyone will see everything. Many TRA's are during night shifts where the traffic levels are likely to be extremely light.

I think the YBBB TRA and multiple adjacent sector groups also with Operational Restriction NOTAMs highlight the severity and seriousness of the critical staffing situation.

The posts are long, the posts are difficult to read. I get it. But try reading these very long TRA NOTAM on an iPad or an iPhone. Good luck. Swiss cheese, make it a double.

[sunnySA]

YPAD

B175/23
TRAINING FLT (CIRCUITS/ILS/VFR OVERSHOOT/AEROBATICS), PARACHUTING AND
SURVEY FLIGHTS NOT PERMITTED DUE OPR RESTRICTIONS
WITHIN 36NM. EXCLUDING YPPF CTR.
FROM 07 121100 TO 07 121230

Perth. Adelaide.

[compressor stall]

Originally Posted by SixDemonBag

This whole thread has lost its original intent. Please stop cut and pasting NOTAMS. We get it. We read them every time we go to work.

don’t read the thread then. 🤬

Keep up the good work, sunnySA

[we_were_inverted]

With all this talk about sick leave let me relate my (alleged) personal experience working for an (alleged government monopoly) transportation service provider.

100+ controllers get paid big $ to retire early when we are already at just below critical staffing levels . This creates huge staffing issues off the bat. To cover the shortfall, against ATC wishes the employer change rosters to add an extra day of work per fortnight.

Work life balance aside, this changed roster reduces the amount of controllers per shift. Less people doing more work. This means operating sectors combined which dramatically increase workload. I finish each shift absolutely fried. But before I finish I am asked to extend because the next shift is short because of the early retirements. Sure, I’ll extend. Help the crew out. Instantly regret the decision as I’m getting slammed by traffic operating combined sectors that were previously split. Have a scare and see a conflict later than I would like. Get home absolutely wrecked.

Trying to unwind and I get a phone call. See it is work so I ignore it. Get a text asking if i can start early tomorrow. No, sorry. Im tired. Ok well can I start later and finish later? Fine. It is my last day of the cycle and they’re short staffed and it’s going to be a busy evening so whatever. Help the team out.

Sectors combined when they previously were not. Get slammed. Tricky winds meant that base is very hard to judge. Every sequence is tight. Few hours to go. Separating and sequencing traffic until the last minute of my shift which finishes at 2300. Despite getting home close to midnight I look forward to my by this point day and a half off.

Wake up to 2 missed calls and a text. Can I give them anything? No, sorry. I’m tired. Same again next morning. They’re desperate. Anything I can do will keep airspace open. Fine I will give you 4 hours. Get in and asked to extend? No Im back at 0530 tomorrow. Get slammed for 4 hours working sectors combined that we previously had staff to work split. Regret coming in. Read an email on my break from an executive essentially saying we are slacking and it is the fault of the operational ATC that the staffing and airspace crisis is the way it is.


Have a splitting headache by the time I get home and the hubby is mad. I get an early night but cannot sleep because the new roster is the most fatiguing I have ever worked.

Back at 0530, same old story. Combined sectors. Slammed. Can I extend? My headache is worse. Stare at the ceiling again. Am I fit to work tomorrow? Not sure. Will I extend anymore? No. Am I available on my lovely 2 days off that is really about a day an a half? No. Not anymore.

That, In my opinion, is why there are so many TIBAs and TRAs

[Chronic Snoozer]

Originally Posted by sunnySA

Perth.

Sure this is Perth? YPPF is Parafield.

[sunnySA]

Originally Posted by Chronic Snoozer

Sure this is Perth? YPPF is Parafield.

Corrected.You'd think sunnySA would know better. "WITHIN 36NM" - 36NM of where you might ask!!

[sunnySA]

YBBB operational restrictions 13/7

B1050/23
ATS OPR AT REDUCED CAPACITY DUE TO OPR RESTRICTIONS IN THE FLW
AIRSPACE:
IN THE FLW AIRSPACE: BRISBANE CENTRE 134.2 POINT LOOKOUT, 122.6 MOUNT
MOOMBIL, 120.3 MOUNT NARDI, 126.8 PASSCHENDAELE, 126.05 BALLINA,
127.1 MOUNT DOWE, 133.05 MOUNT CANOBOLAS, 124.8 MOUNT HEATON AND
125.75 THE ROUND MOUNTAIN.
DESIGNATED AIRSPACE HANDBOOK (DAH) SECTOR VOLUME NAMES AFFECTED ARE
GRAFTON A, B, C, D ,E, F, G. SANDON A AND B, BENDEMEER AND NEWELL A,
B, C AND D. MAP OF AFFECTED AIRSPACE (LISTED UNDER GRAFTON AND
SANDON/NEWELL IN THE BRISBANE FIR) AVBL AT
HTTPS://WWW.AIRSERVICESAUSTRALIA.COM...MAPS/INDEX.ASP
APRX AREA: NORTHEAST NEW SOUTH WALES OUTSIDE 45NM YSSY EXC YSTW CTA
STEPS BLW A065 WHEN ACTIVE AND YCFS CLASS D STEPS WHEN ACTIVE AND
YBNA SFIS BA WHEN ACTIVE
MAJOR ATS ROUTES:
H66 BTN MUDGI AND 20NM SOUTH BLAKA
H76 BTN 5NM SOUTH RUTOS AND NBR
H98 BTN IDNER AND SANAD
H133 BTN 18NM SOUTH LOSKU AND IDNER
H202 BTN BOYSY AND AGETA
J70 BTN CFS AND 5NM SOUTHWEST BANDA
W128 BTN 23NM SOUTH HUUGO AND SANAD
W130 BTN TW AND 16NM NORTH OLTIN
W169 BTN 24NM SOUTH HUUGO AND TW
W174 BTN 60NM SOUTHEAST TW AND NBR
W180 BTN 30NM SOUTH SANAD AND 30NM SOUTH GOMOL
W183 BTN TW AND SCO
W192 BTN MUDGI AND 30NM SOUTH GOMOL
W196 BTN KADSI AND 30NM SOUTH GOMOL
W207 BTN 75NM NORTH IVL AND 65NM NORTHEAST PKS
W214 BTN 45NM SOUTHWEST CFS AND 30NM SOUTH GOMOL
W220 BTN 65 SOUTHEAST TW AND NBR
W223 BTN IDNER AND 23NM NORTH PMQ
W256 BTN 12NM NORTHWEST BNA AND ARM
W267 BTN 5NM NORTHEAST TATEN AND IVL
W318 BTN TW AND MOR
W326 BTN VONDO AND 15NM NORTHEAST DU
W330 BTN TW AND CFS
W334 BTN VEGAH AND LOSKU
W347 BTN 50NM SOUTH ARM AND 90NM SOUTH OK
W359 BTN MUDGI AND TW
W365 BTN RUNNA AND SCO
W434 BTN TW AND GFN
W446 BTN KADSI AND RIDVO
W456 BTN NBR AND MOR
W487 BTN 18NM NORTH RIC AND QDI
W494 BTN 14NM NORTHEAST BNA AND IDNER
W514 BTN AGETA AND TW
W572 BTN 65NM NORTHEAST MOR AND QDI
W598 BTN IVL AND 12NM SOUTHWEST ROONY
W603 BTN CFS AND 54NM NORTH UGPOT
W606 BTN 14NM SOUTHEAST SANAD AND IVL
W623 BTN GFN AND VERAV
W625 BTN 30NM NORTHEAST DEJAY AND MOR
W627 BTN MUDGI AND ANBAN
W674 BTN 43NM SOUTH ARM AND IVL
W682 BTN MUDGI AND ONUMA
W684 BTN IVL AND TW
W702 BTN QDI AND 12NM NORTHWEST OLTIN
W760 BTN 24NM NORTHWEST IDNER AND 15NM NORTHEAST DU
W822 BTN HILAR AND BITUL
Y465 BTN GUMAP AND EDPEG
AWK NOT AVBL
SVY OPS NOT AVBL
LIMITED SIS PROVIDED
FOR FURTHER INFO CTC DUTY ATM DIRECTOR BY TEL <613 9235 7550>.
SFC TO FL245
FROM 07 121930 TO 07 130315

B1049/23
ATS OPR AT REDUCED CAPACITY
IN THE FLW AIRSPACE: BRISBANE CENTRE 127.2 POINT LOOKOUT. DESIGNATED
AIRSPACE HANDBOOK (DAH) SECTOR VOLUME NAMES AFFECTED ARE 'INVERELL A, B, C'
DESIGNATED AIRSPACE HANDBOOK (DAH) SECTOR VOLUME NAMES AFFECTED ARE
'INVERELL A, B, C'
MAP OF AFFECTED AIRSPACE (LISTED UNDER INVERELL IN THE BRISBANE FIR)
AVBL AT HTTPS://WWW.AIRSERVICESAUSTRALIA.COM...MAPS/INDEX.ASP
APRX AREA: AN ARC AT 50DME YBCG SOUTH TO YCFS, SOUTHWEST TO YARM,
NORTHWEST TO YIVL AND NORTHEAST TO POSN 27NM NORTHEAST YSPE
MAJOR ATS ROUTES:
H66 BTN PEBDO AND IDNER
H91 BTN 16NM NORTH APAGI AND 55NM NORTH SANAD
H98 BTN IDNER AND 55NM NORTH SANAD
H133 BTN LOSKU AND IDNER
H185 BTN 20NM NORTH BANDA AND 50NM SOUTH GOMOL
Q53 BTN 13NM NORTHEAST APAGI AND 45NM NORTHEAST NOLOK
Q210 BTN OSTAM AND 25NM NORTHEAST BOBOP
Q923 BTN 80NM NORTH SANEG AND 50NM NORTH KARDI
Y23 BTN OLRIP AND 13NM SOUTHWEST BERNI
Y43 BTN 20NM NORTH BANDA AND 10NM SOUTH BERNI
Y245 BTN 20NM NORTH BANDA AND BNA
AWK NOT AVBL
SVY OPS NOT AVBL
LIMITED SIS PROVIDED
FOR FURTHER INFO CTC DUTY ATM DIRECTOR BY TEL <613 9235 7550>.
FL125 TO FL600
FROM 07 121930 TO 07 130315

B1048/23
ATS OPR AT REDUCED CAPACITY
IN THE FLW AIRSPACE: BRISBANE CENTRE 130.4 SPRINGBROOK
DESIGNATED AIRSPACE HANDBOOK (DAH) SECTOR VOLUME NAMES AFFECTED ARE
'GOLD COAST A, B, C, D, E, F'. MAP OF AFFECTED AIRSPACE (LISTED UNDER
GOLD COAST IN THE BRISBANE FIR) AVBL AT
HTTPS://WWW.AIRSERVICESAUSTRALIA.COM...MAPS/INDEX.ASP
APRX AREA: 60NM RADIUS OF YBCG.
MAJOR ATS ROUTES:
A464 BTN 12NM EAST SCOTT AND 25NM EAST WINKY
H66 BTN IDNER AND LAGOB
H91 BTN SANEG AND APAGI
H185 BTN OMKAX AND LAGOB
Q47 BTN GOMOL AND 12.5NM NORTH SCOTT
Q53 BTN GOMOL AND 13NM NORTH APAGI
Q69 BTN GOMOL AND MAKRU
Q210 BTN SANEG AND OSTAM
Q923 BTN MUDDL AND 80NM NORTH ISKIM
W128 BTN ENKOG AND 110NM NORTH ALDAR
W760 BTN 10NM SOUTH DULIN AND IDNER
Y23 BTN 13NM SOUTH BERNI AND BERNI
Y43 BTN 10NM SOUTH BERNI AND GREAV
AWK NOT AVBL
SVY OPS NOT AVBL
LIMITED SIS PROVIDED
FOR FURTHER INFO CTC DUTY ATM DIRECTOR BY TEL <613 9235 7550>.
6500FT AMSL TO FL600
FROM 07 121930 TO 07 130315

Operational restrictions across Northern NSW.

All 3 NOTAMS were extended to 1100, so 131100.
B1050/23 > B1054/23
B1049/23 > B1053/23
B1048/23 > B1052/23

[missy]

Originally Posted by morno

Nope, been like that for years, mostly for COBT compliance.

From my limited experience "WHEN READY FOR PUSH BACK OR TAXI CTC COORDINATOR 127.6" is used to manage the workload on Ground East 121.7, reduce the number of calls they receive and better mange the ground traffic, much the way that tugs call 127.6 with their initial request.

It can also be very effective tool when there is a probability of a runway change as it better "controls" the traffic and allows 127.6 to amend the clearance, and the Ground controllers to focus on the traffic on the taxiways.

It can also be used when Ground East and West are being done by a single controller, once again to manage workload. If Ground East and West are being done by a single controller and it is "busy" then it would be fair to say that it's because the Tower is operating on reduced staffing numbers but not enough to issue a NOTAM.

I notice Melbourne Tower does something similar from time to time but they use the Delivery frequency (127.2).

Staffing shortages are across the network, some are very obvious (TRA/TIBA), other less obvious.

If it has "been like that for years" then it should be in ERSA as a published procedure and not on the ATIS.

[noclue]

Can any ATC-ers advise what the reduced capacity is being reduced to?
Some of the NOTAMS near the Gold Coast/northern NSW often state “OPS AT REDUCED CAPACITY”. The duty ATM has often advised me that there will be no impact on my flights. Maybe I was lucky at the times I flew through but what scale is the capacity reduction?