Hi

I have 737TR with time on type. Not currently flying and no LPC.

Have been offered, and accepted, a start date this year.

Pretty sure it was a 70% contract (could have mis-heard) but not sure how that works if you are starting in the winter?!

Any ideas?

Congrats to you, sure enough a 70% contract would normally run april to oct inclusive. Read the small print!!!!!!!!:ok:

Congrats to you buddy.

Here's hoping the yay or nay floodgates open tomorrow.

70%
 

The 70% contract being offered works on the basis of 70% full Capt/FO salary paid over 12 months. So in essence you are employed all year but to the companies advantage of not using you for the winter.
In this case initial training will commence whenever your start date is, once all ground/sim/line training is complete you will then not fly until your official 70% term so 1st April start on full roster and you will then fly the summer until the 31st Oct.

That sucks now I'm digesting that info since you've highlighted that, so when you're not working no chance of signing on or going and getting contract work for a few months to keep the wolf from the door?

However these questions may be irrelevant if full contracts are offered at the end of summer 2011 as it looks like has happened this year with Jet2 and TCX.

The 100+ pilots they bring in can't all be put through the sims and line checked together, there is also no point in LPC/OPCing someone not to use them for 3 months because they'd lose their 3 T/O's and landings in the previous 90 days.

Sorry, I don't really understand.

I have been offered a start date within the next few weeks. Are you telling me that they will train me and then ground me until April?!

I don't think this is very likely. Completely unproductive for them and, of course, no good for me.

Need to consider the 3 T/Os and LDGs, too.

Maybe I will get a 100% contract?!!

I thought everybody would be contacted at the same (or similar) time. I'm surprised more haven't heard.

Agreed it is early and maybe unproductive but bear in mind that they are recruiting 100 ish people and will need them all trained and ready to go online for the start of April.
Not counting those doing a full type-rating the first course for TR I believe is the end of Nov so line training Dec and possibly into early Jan depending on the number on the course and the fact it is the low season. This then would give them at least upto end March before the 3 T/O, LDG currency issue. So ultimately not that far from the supposed 1st April really!
goaroundnow what is your experience? are you TR already?
Good luck to all who have accepted and hope you enjoy your new comapny. :D

If they are offering 50% till the ink is dry in your licence, that is even worse.

Yes, I am TR'd and with experience on type.

It is not going to take 3-4 months to get me (or someone like me) fully trained, checked and ready to go.

There's no point in starting me so early unless they plan to use me before April.

goaroundnow
 

My comment earlier was not indicating I knew of what they may do with people but merely what their 70% contract actually is. They may have plans to utilise those crews already rated due to attrition of their existing pilots. If you have been offered a 70% contract then it may be worth asking.
Out of curiosity is your course the one at the end of Nov?
I know there was talk of there being some 100% contracts available but how many??
Line training may still take a while though. As I allured to earlier dependant on numbers and availability of trainers. Still 20 sectors for rated guys plus GND training, SEP training, uniforms etc etc.
Would be interesting to know what their plans are for those guys on the earlier courses.
Either way well done and hope you enjoy.

People are being offered start dates and they don't even know what contract they are on?!

Words fail......

Or is it just me?

Hi,

I start training pretty soon with jet 2 and will be finished TR by christmas. I am an ex heavy jet guy and I have been told I only need 20 sectors (I take it this means 10 return trips) I then fully expect not to be needed very much until the start of April. The biggest problem for Jet2 at the moment seems to be scheduling the required training sectors for the new guys while also keeping their 100% guys fully employed over the winter.

Taxi-driver is correct in that there are differing contracts depending on your skills and experience i.e. 100% or 70% Pay for all of TR, some of TR or a bond.

Regards

Most people who were interviewed are currently acting like a coiled spring waiting on a 0113 number to show up on their mobiles after being told that we were going to find out this time last week.

Personally I don't blame goaroundnow for not delving deeper, he's not been flying for a while and the excitement maybe took over asking those pertinent questions.

I reckon it maybe down to fill the attrition rather than the summer 2011 intake. From what you're posting so far I'm guessing you are living nearby one of their bases and available immediately - that would tie in with Jet2's track record. Hope its a 100% contract, can't see them bringing you in re-newing you then having to do it again a 3 months later.

I was under the impression the 2011 intake would be on courses starting in March, April and then May, with the last group possibly being on the line in mid June (seems a little late).

however as I've said before, I'm don't have a clue what they are up to, it's pretty haphazard from what I've gleaned and wasted too many brain cells trying to second guess them.

Hi

Basically the excitement did take-over a bit.

The confusion more lies in that, in hindsight, I think I heard the words 70 and 100!!

It doesn't bother me anyway. I am not flying (and haven't been for more than a year) and 70% is still 200% of my current salary.

I do not live locally to any of their bases (not even in the vicinity)!

Just be nice to get back flying again.

I am sure the contract will make things clear(ish)! I assume one gets paid (whether 70 or 100%) from Day 1. I don't much care for the Ryanair philosophy - only being paid once you're making the company money (i.e. after the safety pilot disappears).

Interestingly enough; when I came out of Mrs Windsor's Transport Command in 1979, I fancied joining Fred Laker's excellent airline.

I was accepted as an F/O on the DC-10 (at no cost to me) but on a training salary of £4000 pa.

It is my memory that we had to check out on the DC-10 in 12 sectors (mind you, each sector could be at least 10 hours long) or else you were in trouble.

I can well remember that one F/O took more than 12 sectors and who subsequently was not really a wonderful asset to anyone's flight deck but he was very much the exception to the rule.

The interesting thing was that when Fred went down the tubes and all of us were scrabbling for jobs, the one that got job after job was the man mentioned above!

I often wondered what finally happened to him (or his passengers) but he was a classic example of bull!!!! baffling brains!

Nothing heard again today, and, in order to fulfill their promise to inform everyone by the end of the week, we should expect a phone call tomorrow.

Quite fitting that they will call you on payday......:D:=:ugh:

By the way, does PM still hold "Morning Prayers" (like he was taught when he was a Hunter pilot in the RAF at 0900 every morning)?

I remember walking into the Channex Ops Room one morning (having just done a sub-service for them) at Bournemouth and PM was in full flight. He was tearing the arse out of a Herald crew that had been 20 minutes late (or something quite so trivial) and I found this quite embarrassing to witness.

I swore blind that I would rather go down the London sewers rather than work for such a pillock.

Has anyone been offered a 100% deal?

Also, and clarification on the 70%, if you subsequently get kept on after Oct? ie do you get the 30% that you worked for, but didn't get paid for, as a lump sum.

Good luck to all who hope to hear something today.

It sounds as though the deals offered vary and depend on your qualifications. Historically Jet2 have not given employment contracts to anyone requiring the type rating until the type is on your licence. Whatever they offer you until then may change until you have the type rating and receive the contract to sign.
As for changing you from part-time (70% or whatever) to full-time 100% at the end of the summer period, I believe those currently in this situation are not being given any back pay. So basically Jet2 have had some cheap formally part-time now full-time pilots this last summer - no doubt something they may do again.

Another week now has come and gone and still no news. Exasperated is an understatement.

The money was there, but during all this waiting I have blown most of it on Absinthe and Hookers.

Much more fun!

Splitfmttc or whatever!
A june start is ok, the old days of Charter airlines starting on 26th March (Summer Time table) is no longer, busy easter then build up Mayish onwards.:\

Fair enough mate but if you start them in May on a 7 month on, 5 month off 70% contract then they finish in December, so during November and December when your 100% contract pilots don't have a great deal of work then you dilute the pool with all these extra guys.

Anyone here on the 'reserve' list? Any news? I know one of the guys on it got offered a last min place the other week.

Anyone been offered a start in December - non TR?

Feel free to PM me...

staff travel
 

Does anyone know the staff travel set up at Jet2? How long you have to be with them? Do 70% contractors get staff travel all year?

Staff travel on Jet2 flights only - no interline agreements. Hardly worth the trouble. Better and probably cheaper just to book on ezjet. CEO and MD have no interest in staff travel.

staff travel
 

Actually once you get the hang of the system it's ok. I use it between 3 and 5 times a year and have done since 2003:ok:. I travel with my family at peak times, ie Easter, summer holidays and half terms etc, and so far have always got seats:D. There are some tweaks that'd make it a better system that unfortunately the management don't seem interested in :confused: even though they'd be no cost, and more importantly a small amount of extra revenue.

As for whether 70%ers would be eligible for staff travel, I don't know, you'd have to ask for the contract of employment. The required service for entry into the system is 6 months.

But what about the recruitment?
 

All this chat about staff travel is useful information - if you have been made an offer!

Has anybody received any phone calls or rejection letters after the October interviews for TR and non-TR Captains and First Officers?

I know personally 5 who went to the interviews, two were called for a sim ride. Thereafter one had to do SHL psychometric tests.

Otherwise no-one has heard anything, neither a yes or no, including one of sim assessed guys.

Despite promises to phone everyone by the end of the week (two weeks expired, and we were the last assessment day) and emails to them, it has all been very quiet.

I note they still have their recruitment page open, and are recruiting contractors via an agency. All those yet to be called have other stuff in the pipeline and therfore Jet2 may miss out if they don't hurry up, although I suspect if you haven't heard you should fear the worst.

Good luck to all:ok:

I had an interview in December last year, and it took them 6 or 7 weeks to get round to telling me the result.

Have any rated 737 FOs been interviewed yet?

Is the contract recruitment being handled by Zenon Recruitment by any chance? I noticed on the FLight Global Jobs site that Zenon are recruiting for 737-300 rated crews for a UK airline with several UK bases. I doubt that it is BMI Baby, the only other operator of vintage Boeing metal.

another TR interview day next week

A friend of mine called them earlier this week and was informed that all the contracts for the mid-October interviews were with the HR Director for counter-signing and they would call everyone, whither it be successful or unsuccessful, at some point this week.

Its a bit odd, because at least 2 of the people that I was at the assessment day with, were offered contracts last week.

I spoke to them (Jet2) last Monday, ie 10 days ago, and they said I'd be called at the end of that week. A week later and still heard nothing.

Surely a simple generic email from them to let us know whats going on wouldn't be too much to ask.

Communication, or the lack of, is the most frustrating and annoying thing.

I went in mid-October and got the call last week for a start in December.

I am B737 TR F/O.

With reference to my earlier post and the fact its now 4:30 on Friday afternoon. I seriously think there needs to be a memo circulated around Low Fare Finder House advising employees on how to manage expectations.

2 things are certs in aviation:

Don't believe anything about new aircraft arriving until you are on board said aircraft and hear "V1".

Whatever an airline executive tells you with respect to timescales, budgets or savings, multiply it by at least 3. Also buy shares in Malvern Sea Salt as your initial investment will be repaid tenfold.

Exactly how long is a week at Jet2.com?:ugh:

The length of a week depends which planet you are on.

Earth is 7 days.............perhaps they are using camel time.:bored:

I spoke to Casey at 2pm today ( I know they finish at 3pm). he was very pleasant, and advised me that they were waiting on the application being processed by HR. As and when they are passed back to him and his team, the applicant are phoned with a decision.
He said that not being contacted yet is neither a definite yes or no, just that they haven't got through them all yet.
I asked about the further interviews that were being done next week. He said they are for type rated candidates, and have no effect on the non type rated applicants. Quite how that can be true, I'm not sure, but I'll take him at his word, until proven otherwise.
He wouldn't be drawn on a timescale for a decision, as he is aware that other deadlines have come and gone.
Even though I'm sure he is sick of getting phonecalls from people like me, he was very pleasant. I guess we'll just have to have a bit more patience.
Have a good weekend y'all.

From what I can gather, their cunning plan is to recruit a number of cadets [restricted in numbers by the CAA], non TR, TR, and contract guys for S.11
The training machine will be fully occupied this winter. Do they really want to deal with so many non TR people? Depends how brave they are feeling.......or pushed by management??

So, on the balance of probability, what jockflyer was told by Casey Prince is correct, in so far what he has been told by his management. That is not to say that the percentages might change depending what is actually on offer.

Notwithstanding what they would like to happen in the ideal world for their recruiting, the market place might have a few surprises next year.
Offers accepted at this stage will not, in all cases, translate into appearing on the due date. With a week or so to go, HR will get phone calls saying.....erh sorry, going elsewhere. The tide is turning.............:oh:

N2S's post there is right on the money.

I for one am a little exacerbated and frustrated by the way Jet2 have gone about this whole recruitment process. Even Peter Pan left Neverneverland. It's been manifested by current employees posting on here their embarrassment at what they've been asked to do or witnessed.

On the day I was impressed at the approachability of almost everyone there. The timescales that were relayed to me seemed adequate. I also feel certain that the management pilot who interviewed me was sincere in his estimation. I am in no doubt though that there has been some outside interference at some point in the past few weeks for whatever reason.

I think many forget how much dignity and relief you can offer a candidate by offering them employment. It allay's financial fear and gives structure to their life and allows a degree of forward planning. I wouldn't mind that as I now go into my third weekend after jumping every time I hear my phone go off. Why its taking so long is beyond me and if I'm honest, leaving a bad taste.

Carlsberg don't do bad recruitment drives ...... But if they did ..... Jet2 would eclipse them.