Does anyone know the split of people that were recruited? I know that Monarch were after a balance of TR'd/Non TR'd, CTC and Mil but does one group particularly outweigh the other?
Have the Type Rating courses begun already? I've heard that they have courses running until next spring. What about guys with a TR? What kind of training will they need? Or do they effectively just go straight onto the line with a bit of line training? |
From memory 3rd CTC, 3rd rated and 3rd military/TP
10 a month from Sept, and length of training varies but Monarch have in the past not had a problem giving type rated guys a full course and many training sectors if needed. Having said that I would think type rated guys will get a tech refresher and about 2 weeks of ground training Sep, CRM etc before approximate 10 line training sectors. |
Cheers Mesh,
I guess alot of it depends on the requirement for crew going into the winter season. The guys already qualified with a Bus rating can get into the line fairly quickly so I would imagine a start date after Christmas for TRd chaps would make sense. Whereas the remainder starting a few months before should have them line training at approx the same time for the run up to Summer 13. |
have any of the guys who were listed as 'hold' or 'hold for interview' had any further communications?
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No further communication at this stage. It could be a while!
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Interviewing is on hold now for a few months as this winters' courses have been filled.
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Keep the faith guys, it may be a couple of months but we currently believe we need to recruit more than the initial 100. We will be looking at ongoing courses all year. We have employed permanent ground tech instructors to prove this. Good luck
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Is there any indication at all as to when interviews will resume?
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Is any of this recruitment due to expansion ( filling a bit of the baby void ?? ) ? If this is to replace guys leaving, where are they going to ?
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The first one BigBad! 100+ being recruited would suggest a fairly impressive exodus!
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Turnover of Pilots in Monarch is very low.
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Turnover of Pilots in Monarch is very low. |
Starting 22nd..!
Anyone starting on the 22nd Sept.......!
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Anyone starting on the 22nd Sept.......! |
Thanx fansfail...... I do mean 22nd Oct lol ....... Anyone starting then??
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Any further news?
Has anyone placed on hold received any further information?
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The guttering thing is I thought they weren't offering Luton as a base... and then I found out it was possible... man do I feel like I've missed the boat...
Looks like it's onwards and upwards with FlexiScrew for the foreseeable future! Good luck and a big congrats to those (especially turboprop guys - you've waited long enough!!) who have been offered jobs! |
I don't think anyone will be forgotten about, I was impressed with the levels of communication by today's usual employer standards! Things will be winding down for Christmas and I understand courses were filled until April 2013. Expect something late Winter/Early Spring!
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I would agree with JB at the moment. We currently have all we need booked onto courses unto April. At the moment that's that, we are now bidding for various base issues which will take us upto christmas. Usual settle in Jan, then I think we will start to tweak the FTE which has been muted to increase. We are still negotiating aircraft, I believe more base news etc so hang in there. As those who are coming to us know we don't spend months interviewing. More a case of turn up Monday, hour interview, job offer within two weeks and start date, sorted.
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@mesh, just read on the monarch thread about the 8 A320/321 arriving for summer 2013. Has the recruitment so far already accounted for this with the courses filled to April or would further numbers be required?
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I heard Monarch was getting rid of all their 757's.
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Yes
all 757's gone end of 2014. |
Yup! This is where most of recruitment is heading
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From what I've heard, we will take easy flexi pilots and CTC but will be mixing that up with experienced Turboprop/military etc. |
At my interview they mentioned cadets starting after April / May when the courses for TR or experienced Non TR had taken place.
This may have changed since my interview though. |
Just curious as to why they are getting rid of 757.?? too expensive fuel wise , or maintainance etc...?
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I think they're just old. I think I'm right in saying Monarch's 75s are all around 25 years old, which will probably mean high maintenance costs and more frequent tech delays.
Plus it's more efficient to use a common fleet, i.e. the A320 family. |
Does anyone know if Monarch have come to a decision regarding their long haul business?
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1/3rd of approx 100 newbees are cadets(some MPL)
757 going for same reasons A300, old, harder to keep legal given regulatory changes, economies of scale for an all FBW fleet and we are going short haul schedule.....I read a post earlier about someone upset that we werent recruiting into luton and now we are. Obviously i don't know your personal circumstances but I would advise taking any base and then applying for your wanted base. IMHO most guys get where they want within couple of years. To add to this new joiners had to move to any base upon command but our cc has even got this changed so if you are settled you don't haveto move. Presently we are top heavy LTN and MAN so probably harder to get these upon starting. However as we have new bases we are being incentivised to move to these bases (a very nice wedge) to move. Knowing Monarch we will then be short in these previously busy bases.... |
When the 75's get retired, will A320 / 321 replace them......or are Monarch looking at a larger airframe?
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It looks like a320/321 replacements. We will not be leasing larger aircraft as LH going
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It looks like a320/321 replacements. We will not be leasing larger aircraft as LH going |
Is it true that 100 people were offered a start date during this last spell?
How many interviews would've been conducted to get to this figure out of interest? and all this without sim checks? :uhoh: |
Unless "mesh" really knows what he's talking about, he doesn't know any more than anyone else. Not even Mr Spotty knows.
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Mr Spotty's actions speak louder than words so my bet is mesh is right....
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Man thrust, when I state a fact it's a fact. When I speculate I aim to mention that it's just my personal opinion. I don't know everything that Monarch plans, I don't make out that I am in some privileged position and am the font of all knowledge. I try to Answer questions asked and predict what I believe may happen, this is a rumour network after all. For example, some time ago I went to some lengths to explain our plans for SH v LH. If you were with me in the Management presentation then you will have heard that we are planing to go down the SH schedule route whilst keeping an eye on the LH Market..fact! Now I don't think we will go any further with LH and this is what I state, I don't know for sure, nobody does but a calculated guess from someone at Monarch surely is useful to Monarch wannabes. I do know what courses are going on and I do know how many FOs we have employed and I do know we may be short a bit. Most pilots at Monarch know this, they all go to the meeting some may even chat to management, engineers etc and have a good idea of our future, all I try to do is pass this on to those who want to listen....
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Thanks Mesh for all your updates, along with others waiting on a phone call, email, carrier pigeon, from Monarch, any snippet of information is appreciated. The LH vs SH debate doesn't really bother me at the moment, hopefully I get a chance to get in and see what the future holds.
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Super pilot, yup around 100 maybe just under. Management spent many hours interviewing I can't tell how many were looked at but we did have a lot of type rated guys and girls apply. No sims, again you are correct. We tend to look at experience and go along the line that if you have the interview you can fly, we then have training period to get you to the Monarch standard or if you don't manage it possibly a goodbye. Not many people get to this point as a lot of extra training is given, more than most operators would give.
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Thanks Mesh:ok:
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Mesh; I seem to have touched a bit of a raw nerve here?
But as your previous post said " LH is going" and it isn't , could you just clear up whether your post was factual or just a rumour. For the record, I love a good rumour. |
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