Joining Ryanair
Joined: Apr 2016
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From: Up north
Does anyone have any idea about the pilot situation in Ryanair? Apparently during past seven years or so it's been the normal "they won't get thru this summer"-story among the pilots but anyone have any real info how they are doing? Heard they went to Brazil for a roadshow 
All the guys from my type rating are gone.
All the guys from my type rating are gone.
You always have enough pilots if you cancel enough flights.
Joined: Nov 2014
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From: go west
you can go to ryanair website and check real time updates for every flight in a nice list. so far this morning out of 1000+ flights, none of them are cancelled and vast majority are on time. The delays that they have are within 20-30 minutes, but I guess the situation will deteriorate with the TS in UK at the moment. It looks like they're doing well
Joined: Nov 2014
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From: go west
ah jeez, and can you tell me how many flights a day do they cancel and where do you get the data from? Are you saying a cancellation due to crew shortage is planned in advance? Why not get one of the ACMI's to step in then, surely cheaper than paying all the compos to stranded pax? Some of the agenda on this site is beyond real..
Joined: Jan 2006
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From: Between a rock and a hard place
Are you saying a cancellation due to crew shortage is planned in advance?
ACMI has been used in the past, it's nothing new.
Joined: Sep 2005
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From: UK, Paris, Peckham, New York
Havent seen any evidence of cancelled flights. Even on social media people would be complaining on every ryanair post possible if this was the case.
They havent leased in summer for a few years now, previously they used flydubai and and before that was an airbus outfit. I do think they have slowed deliveries somewhat.
Hiring must be painful, they have started bonding cadets. Best news for a long time.
They havent leased in summer for a few years now, previously they used flydubai and and before that was an airbus outfit. I do think they have slowed deliveries somewhat.
Hiring must be painful, they have started bonding cadets. Best news for a long time.
Joined: Nov 2014
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From: six micro tesla zone
From what I've heard only 10% of cadets recruited presently will be bonded for 4-6 years.
To be eligible for the bond you have to go through the Ryanair APC, which seems to be fed from certain eastern and southern european schools and results in a Ryanair tailored MCC at CAE.
As of yet, I haven't heard the cost, but you pay in the low ££££'s before commencing the MCC and Ryanair pay for the rest of the cost of the MCC, the TR and Line Training.
To be eligible for the bond you have to go through the Ryanair APC, which seems to be fed from certain eastern and southern european schools and results in a Ryanair tailored MCC at CAE.
As of yet, I haven't heard the cost, but you pay in the low ££££'s before commencing the MCC and Ryanair pay for the rest of the cost of the MCC, the TR and Line Training.
Joined: Nov 2014
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From: six micro tesla zone
The APC program will be open to everybody through McGinley Aviation. I think the students coming from the schools who already have an APC agreement in place with Ryanair will have a preference to be called for the interview simply because they know their "products". Before this it was open only to locals/Eastern Europeans and Italians if the school is Italian.
2 bond options: 3 years and 6 years. How it is done, well... we will find out.
2 bond options: 3 years and 6 years. How it is done, well... we will find out.
Joined: Nov 2005
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From: north
My time
I worked there.
Sent out of base at short notice. Book and pay for my own hotel , find way to get there etc, so no time off.
Happened 3/4 weeks rostered.
Was sick and at sent notice ordered to Dublin. Pay didn't arrive in my account, with no warning and I was on a Ryan contract at this stage.
As it was quite a bad illness and recurred, because I was afraid to take time off and properly heal. They witheld my pay 3 times in total. A nightmare with my mortgage
They ignored doctors and AME letters. Never asked me how I was.
They called me repeatedly in early hours of days off.
In the first four years my pay didn't rise ,so with inflation fell 10+%, but at four years they offered 70 e and hour, down from 85. I had 28 days to set up a PLC and accept,orlose my job.
Sent out of base at short notice. Book and pay for my own hotel , find way to get there etc, so no time off.
Happened 3/4 weeks rostered.
Was sick and at sent notice ordered to Dublin. Pay didn't arrive in my account, with no warning and I was on a Ryan contract at this stage.
As it was quite a bad illness and recurred, because I was afraid to take time off and properly heal. They witheld my pay 3 times in total. A nightmare with my mortgage
They ignored doctors and AME letters. Never asked me how I was.
They called me repeatedly in early hours of days off.
In the first four years my pay didn't rise ,so with inflation fell 10+%, but at four years they offered 70 e and hour, down from 85. I had 28 days to set up a PLC and accept,orlose my job.
Joined: Apr 2006
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From: Netherlands
Luckely I never worked for them but this is the most 
airline ever! Pretending to be the Southwest Airlines of Europe and in the meantime treating their personnel like trash.
Only one thing to do, no pilot should join and the ones who made the mistake to join should go on immediate strike pan European wide.
Oh yeah, one more thing, every RYR pilot should pay let,s say 50 euro to rend a bunch of criminals to get rid of O Lairy and the rest of his management bandits.
This could be a great airline, if they treat their personnel well.
I hope the pilot shortage will hurt them even harder and harder. Then finally O Leary has to bend over and offer some decent terms and conditions instead of the employees getting shafted everytime and accept this.
But again, no one force you to go work for RYR. Just don,t.
If due to the many cancellations also the travel public stay away, that is even better.
airline ever! Pretending to be the Southwest Airlines of Europe and in the meantime treating their personnel like trash.Only one thing to do, no pilot should join and the ones who made the mistake to join should go on immediate strike pan European wide.
Oh yeah, one more thing, every RYR pilot should pay let,s say 50 euro to rend a bunch of criminals to get rid of O Lairy and the rest of his management bandits.
This could be a great airline, if they treat their personnel well.
I hope the pilot shortage will hurt them even harder and harder. Then finally O Leary has to bend over and offer some decent terms and conditions instead of the employees getting shafted everytime and accept this.
But again, no one force you to go work for RYR. Just don,t.
If due to the many cancellations also the travel public stay away, that is even better.
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 288
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From: Asia
+1
there is a lot ryanair bashing these days, (suddenly those pilots found out their balls), but in the mean time, those same pilots were happy to bow down during all these years. Am I wrong ?
all of these employees are in collusion. No sympathy here.
there is a lot ryanair bashing these days, (suddenly those pilots found out their balls), but in the mean time, those same pilots were happy to bow down during all these years. Am I wrong ?
all of these employees are in collusion. No sympathy here.
Joined: Sep 2015
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From: North
It's easy to blame existing pilots for not doing anything but one needs to understand that the way the personnel is structured and organized is so twisted that it's easier said than done to organize not to mention unionize.
What they've been lacking all these years is leverage and that's what they've got now. People are voting with their feets and now when everyone can see the inevitable I wouldn't be surprised seeing bases like DUB or STN going on strike or stopping flying suddenly, following with other bases. Hope they do.
And yeah not getting this topic going too much off-topic, answer to a question in the first page;
Don't go there.
What they've been lacking all these years is leverage and that's what they've got now. People are voting with their feets and now when everyone can see the inevitable I wouldn't be surprised seeing bases like DUB or STN going on strike or stopping flying suddenly, following with other bases. Hope they do.
And yeah not getting this topic going too much off-topic, answer to a question in the first page;
Don't go there.
Joined: Apr 2006
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From: England
Only one thing to do, no pilot should join and the ones who made the mistake to join should go on immediate strike pan European wide.
Oh yeah, one more thing, every RYR pilot should pay let,s say 50 euro to rend a bunch of criminals to get rid of O Lairy and the rest of his management bandits.
Oh yeah, one more thing, every RYR pilot should pay let,s say 50 euro to rend a bunch of criminals to get rid of O Lairy and the rest of his management bandits.
