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Old 29th Apr 2019, 19:17
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One more question guys,

Is it true with the new contract, you can split the 20 vacation days in 5 days 4 times? I know that with the 10 Ad Hoc days you can, but not sure about the 20 vacations days.

Thanks again
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Old 30th Apr 2019, 05:53
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Originally Posted by aircowboy View Post
One more question guys,

Is it true with the new contract, you can split the 20 vacation days in 5 days 4 times? I know that with the 10 Ad Hoc days you can, but not sure about the 20 vacations days.

Thanks again
Correct, 20 days split in 4 blocks of 5 days (13 days free per block of annual leave) at least in the italian contract. Ad hoc leave are 9 days (not 10) and 1 day is mandatory assigned by the company on 25th of december. Happy landing
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Old 30th Apr 2019, 08:23
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Any idea if in Spain is also like that?
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Old 30th Apr 2019, 14:06
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Originally Posted by aircowboy View Post
Any idea if in Spain is also like that?
I would like to know as well!
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Old 30th Apr 2019, 14:41
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Originally Posted by aircowboy View Post
Any idea if in Spain is also like that?
No, it is not.
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Old 1st May 2019, 13:40
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Originally Posted by SpainHire View Post
No, it is not.
Thank you for your reply!
Could you also tell us if it's a full local contract (like in Italy), or if it's an Irish contract that follows the Spanish law? And do they ask you to open a bank account in Ireland to get your pay?
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Old 1st May 2019, 16:44
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Originally Posted by Newcomer2 View Post


Thank you for your reply!
Could you also tell us if it's a full local contract (like in Italy), or if it's an Irish contract that follows the Spanish law? And do they ask you to open a bank account in Ireland to get your pay?
It is an Irish contract that does not follow the Spanish law.
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Old 1st May 2019, 17:17
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Even more confusing then!

So, if I may ask: if you are based in Spain and live there, the social insurance is paid there, but what about the income tax? Is it paid in Ireland or in Spain?
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Old 1st May 2019, 19:12
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Originally Posted by Full_blast View Post


It is an Irish contract that does not follow the Spanish law.
Arenít they supposed to follow the Spanish law from the 31st January 2019 according to what they signed with Sepla last October?
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Old 2nd May 2019, 05:55
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Originally Posted by Newcomer2 View Post
Even more confusing then!

So, if I may ask: if you are based in Spain and live there, the social insurance is paid there, but what about the income tax? Is it paid in Ireland or in Spain?
S.I. is paid in Spain and income tax in Ireland. At the end of the year you'll then pay (or not) any difference in Spain when filing your tax declaration form.


Originally Posted by aircowboy View Post


Aren’t they supposed to follow the Spanish law from the 31st January 2019 according to what they signed with Sepla last October?

They are (were) supposed to do many things.
Even by their own admission they are unable to fully comply with some local laws due to lack of crew (for example the parental leave in Italy) as reported in the latest ANPAC newsletter.
One of the latest news in Spain is that it now seems they have accepted to pay the salary in any European SEPA account, thus eliminating the stupid requirement of having to open an Irish bank account.

To be fair to everybody, it seems that, in certain fields, things are moving towards the right direction, even if at super hyper slow-pace, at least in Spain.



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Old 2nd May 2019, 06:21
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Originally Posted by Full_blast View Post


S.I. is paid in Spain and income tax in Ireland. At the end of the year you'll then pay (or not) any difference in Spain when filing your tax declaration form.





They are (were) supposed to do many things.
Even by their own admission they are unable to fully comply with some local laws due to lack of crew (for example the parental leave in Italy) as reported in the latest ANPAC newsletter.
One of the latest news in Spain is that it now seems they have accepted to pay the salary in any European SEPA account, thus eliminating the stupid requirement of having to open an Irish bank account.

To be fair to everybody, it seems that, in certain fields, things are moving towards the right direction, even if at super hyper slow-pace, at least in Spain.


Hi Full_blast,

Thank you for your help. According to Spanish law you are entitled to work part time due to kids. Is Ryanair accepting it?

Thank you.
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Old 2nd May 2019, 07:08
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Originally Posted by aircowboy View Post


Hi Full_blast,

Thank you for your help. According to Spanish law you are entitled to work part time due to kids. Is Ryanair accepting it?

Thank you.
I am familiar to the law you are referring to, and it is in fact one of the major key points SEPLA is trying to get sorted.

The answer is no. You can request parental leave which will be either allowed/denied or assigned at Company's will.
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Old 2nd May 2019, 07:17
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So I understand they are not respecting the agreement they signed with Sepla, right?
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Old 2nd May 2019, 07:40
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Originally Posted by Full_blast View Post


I am familiar to the law you are referring to, and it is in fact one of the major key points SEPLA is trying to get sorted.

The answer is no. You can request parental leave which will be either allowed/denied or assigned at Company's will.
I am not talking about parental leave. The one Iím referring to is the art 37.5 of the Spanish labor law in which you can work part time (50%, 80% of your normal work) to take care of the kids.
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Old 2nd May 2019, 08:00
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Originally Posted by aircowboy View Post


I am not talking about parental leave. The one Iím referring to is the art 37.5 of the Spanish labor law in which you can work part time (50%, 80% of your normal work) to take care of the kids.
I know, and I answered.

Again, the answer to your question is NO.

The only thing you get in Spain is P/L with the conditions I told you.
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Old 2nd May 2019, 08:19
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So this article and the agreement is bullshit?

https://www.google.es/amp/s/www.abc....ticia_amp.html

What was the agreement between Sepla and Ryanair if they are not following the Spanish labor law?
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Old 2nd May 2019, 16:12
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Full_blast, thank you so much for taking time to answer all our questions, it's very helpful!
Not the answer I wanted to hear, as in my personal case I will end up paying a lot more taxes than if I had a full local contract. Hopefully things will change...
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Old 2nd May 2019, 19:29
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As other colleague said. THE PARADISE 🤣
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Old 11th May 2019, 07:45
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Originally Posted by Full_blast View Post


I know, and I answered.

Again, the answer to your question is NO.

The only thing you get in Spain is P/L with the conditions I told you.

Hopefully after this new things will change:

https://www.eleconomista.es/empresas...-espanola.html
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Old 13th May 2019, 07:59
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Anyone got a start date who did the assessment in April?
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