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Old 5th Jan 2018, 09:31   #301 (permalink)
 
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By all accounts (friends still there) it's worse now than when 'people like me' left. I agree that 5/4 is useful, but in three years at Ryanair I had my pattern changed five times, only once with prior (1 month) warning.

Not very useful when you've planned your next six months and suddenly your working every day you expected to be off.
I'd understand your point of view if anything like that had ever happened to me. I've rarely heard of pattern changes except on command upgrades or base changes.

As I say, the stable roster pattern is extremely helpful for those with families and childcare needs. It need not be 5/4, it could be 5/3 or anything else, but provided it's predictable, it makes planning possible.
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Old 5th Jan 2018, 10:20   #302 (permalink)
 
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Jet2.com isn't "a proper airline".
Really? In what way?
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Old 5th Jan 2018, 12:03   #303 (permalink)
 
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Hello, just out of curiosity; what would be the best Ryanair base regarding pay and living conditions?
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Old 5th Jan 2018, 16:06   #304 (permalink)
 
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Catania it is then!
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Old 5th Jan 2018, 16:32   #305 (permalink)
 
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Me thinks Doppio might have a closer affinity to Catania/Italy than Vastreas/Sweden.
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Old 6th Jan 2018, 20:22   #306 (permalink)
 
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ryanair DEC pension

Hi Lazydog, can you confirm what you said about the pension is correct,
as i took it that RYR will match up to £8000 what a captain elects to pay in, it sounds like your saying RYR will give £8000 and also match up to an additional £8000 that would be interesting thanks
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Old 7th Jan 2018, 07:02   #307 (permalink)
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Ryanaid donít Ďgiveí you £8000 for the pension AND up to a further £8000 more matching your contribution of £8000. Thatíd be £24,000 a year into the pension.

They simply match whatever you put in up to £8000. If you put in £5000 theyíll do the same I believe. If you put in £10k theyíll put in £8k.

For what itís worth too, and unless Iím mistake this £8000 is actually still £6000 for us in the company already and based in Stansted, as we said no to the deal. DECís will get the deal we said no too. Funny isnít it.

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Old 7th Jan 2018, 11:30   #308 (permalink)
 
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VJW, what happens to FO’s already in the company upgrading to CPT? Do they get the new deal?

What happens to cadets joining the company now, will they get the new deal when they get a permanent contract?
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Old 7th Jan 2018, 11:49   #309 (permalink)
 
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Under EU labour law it is necessary to treat equal contracts as equal: i.e. two employees doing the same job on the same contract where one can not be treated 'less favourably' than the other. I once had such a claim against a company where a fellow captain had extra benefits allocated. His contract was a copy/paste of mine, but he had some dubious verbal agreements that gave significant unjustifiable advantages. It was not only against me, but all similar colleagues who were not aware of the set up. I complained & won in that the unjustifiable extras were removed. It was a shame as we were punting for being elevated to the same deal. As it was a dodgy deal in the first place there was only one realistic outcome.
I would question whether it would be permissible to issue differing contracts for line pilots at the same base, doing the same job, but being rewarded differently. Much would depend on who would be prepared to stand up or lie down.
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Old 12th Jan 2018, 21:26   #310 (permalink)
 
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Can anyone tell me if Ryan provide Headsets in the cockpit or pilots have to catty their own?
many thanks in advance.
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Old 12th Jan 2018, 23:37   #311 (permalink)
 
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The ones they have in the cockpit are pretty much unuseable so bring your own - Ryanair provide the aircraft and that’s about it, literally everything else you can think of you have to pay for yourself..
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Old 13th Jan 2018, 09:42   #312 (permalink)
 
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Get yourself aq good noise-cancelling headset; it'll make your day SO much easier! (noise = stress!)
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Old 16th Jan 2018, 09:10   #313 (permalink)
 
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Question: do rated DEFO's get a direct employment contract with Ryanair or is it through an agency? If both, what are the odds of achieving a direct employment contract with Ryanair?

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Old 16th Jan 2018, 15:35   #314 (permalink)
 
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Yes, if you ask for a direct employment contract you’ll almost certainly get one as a DEFO.
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Old 16th Jan 2018, 18:37   #315 (permalink)
 
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Iíd strongly advise against even considering the dodgy contractor option.... itís a real Can of worms. If no direct contract offered Iíd walk away.
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Old 17th Jan 2018, 00:43   #316 (permalink)
 
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All direct entry FOs and Captains are offered permanent contracts.
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Old 17th Jan 2018, 09:26   #317 (permalink)
 
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What's an average net monthly income for a FO based in the UK as a UK resident?
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Old 17th Jan 2018, 09:29   #318 (permalink)

 
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does ryanair pay for TR ? the market is on our side, so I will apply only if they pay for the TR.
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Old 17th Jan 2018, 12:26   #319 (permalink)
 
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No, they don't pay for TR.
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Old 17th Jan 2018, 15:47   #320 (permalink)
 
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Non rated Captains are bonded for three years. Only rated FOs with time on type or cadets recruited for the RHS. Rated FOs offered permanent contracts on joining. Cadets can apply at 1800 hours in the company If Iím not mistaken.

UK permanent FOs average around £3500 net. Busier summer months a bit more obviously.
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