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Old 20th Apr 2019, 07:54
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How much is the salary at ryanair before tax?
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Old 20th Apr 2019, 17:58
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I have been told is about 7500 eur net for Captains and about 4500 eur net for FOs in Spain
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Old 20th Apr 2019, 20:07
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Originally Posted by midnight cruiser View Post
Give it a rest bluey - I believe you don't even work there now, and I don't agree with your CAE advert either.

Fact is, for someone with zero experience, Ryanair has become quite a good place to join, because promotion, (and thus, pay) and seniority rockets in very few years, almost unparalleled anywhere in the world. What's more, I think the chance of getting the UK is very good, with much better satisfaction rates of people getting the base they want - meanwhile, GB is rapidly going down the toilet under the mob rule of a bunch of monosyllabic xenophobes (brexiteers), tax is high and public services are appalling - and RYR UK employee net pay is falling way behind other EU RYR bases (especially compared the local EU contracts, and especially when converted £ to $ or Ä terms), UK bases have gone from the most desired choice to one of the least desired - it even takes the sting out of contracting, with your Ä invoices feeling much better against the pound. If you don't get the UK at the outset, it wouldn't take long at all.

Good luck.
Iím glad you havenít stereotyped ď leave ď voters and clearly keep your liberal mind open to conflicting opinions . Oh....
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Old 26th Apr 2019, 04:06
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Question Current FR pilots : If every day in Ryanair is based on 4 sectors, what is the average duty period from check in to chocks on?

Is it always 4 sectors? How many on average 2 sector
days in a typical monthly roster?

Are FTL regs the basis for rostered duty periods ?

Thanks!
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Old 26th Apr 2019, 09:27
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Depends on the base - STN/DUB got more 4 sectors than TFS etc (of course). Also my (central european) base has a lot more 2 sector days than 4 sectors...
And last month I flew ~70h, with a duty time of ~120h.
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Old 27th Apr 2019, 00:03
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Originally Posted by flyfan View Post
Depends on the base - STN/DUB got more 4 sectors than TFS etc (of course). Also my (central european) base has a lot more 2 sector days than 4 sectors...
And last month I flew ~70h, with a duty time of ~120h.
But to be honest this is not standard in an average FR base. My base hits regulary over 100 h block/month AND they still call you to fly on your off days.

Mainland base as well and we nearly JUST do 4 sector days. And it is not 1 hour sectors, daily BVA flights for us giving us already on that around 2:10 - 2:30 block each side. Plus 2 shorter sectors before.



Bigger bases have a bit less flying BUT then the very often pull you out of base which is something that I really hate.

To end up with only 2 sectors you need to be a.) lucky b.) there was no other possibility to give you sector 3 and 4(e.g. all sectors operated by other crews on other airframes which brings us back to a.) ) or c.) you are at a base that does a lot of medium haul sectors(e.g. going down to Teneriffe or Tel Aviv).

Duty period - do the math by yourself. Block hours normally at LEAST around 8. Turn around 25 mins(sometimes, like FCO 30 mins). Do the 100h Block deal a couple of months in a row(which is quiet normal in smaller bases short of pilots) and you are worn out. Money is ok(of course) considering the hours we do. Compared to any other proper airline which is doing MUCH less flying the money earned is suddenly not so much anymore. FR is aiming to put you as close to 900 h as they can.
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Old 27th Apr 2019, 06:05
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Sounds like paradise!
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Old 28th Apr 2019, 08:44
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Ryanair commuting lifestyle

Hi all,

can you guys share how is commuting life working for Ryanair as a pilot?

thanks for your help
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Old 28th Apr 2019, 09:41
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I don’t commute, but talking to those who do if you are not lucky with your base the 5 on 4 off pattern effectively becomes 7 on 2 off.
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Old 28th Apr 2019, 09:50
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I have been assigned a base with daily and direct flights to my city(2 hours flight). What do you think?
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Old 28th Apr 2019, 09:54
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That would still depends on your roster. It could 5 on 4 off if you're lucky or 7 on 2 off when you get a bad combination.
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Old 28th Apr 2019, 12:43
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I understand that you have to live within an hour from base, is this during your 5 on period? Presumably you can do what you want in your own time?
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Old 28th Apr 2019, 19:13
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Originally Posted by midnight cruiser View Post
Correct. And commuting is generally uncomplicated (as it should be). However, I do get a bit irritated by colleagues who position in and then operate after little or no rest, and are about as sharp as a balloon on day one. It risks a crack down like what has happened at BA.

Anyway, the key to a happy life at Ryanair is to live as close possible to base.
I've also been recommended this for when I start, travelling to work only makes fatigue worse so make sure to stay close to the airport and I would imagine you would be less fatigued
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Old 28th Apr 2019, 22:04
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Originally Posted by midnight cruiser View Post
Correct. And commuting is generally uncomplicated (as it should be). However, I do get a bit irritated by colleagues who position in and then operate after little or no rest, and are about as sharp as a balloon on day one. It risks a crack down like what has happened at BA.

Anyway, the key to a happy life at Ryanair is to live as close possible to base.
The key is to fly in the closest base to your home that usually have 2 sectors. If not you are death, 4 sectors every day in the 737 with 24 min turnaround? When you arrive to your home you donít want even to see the face of your wife. You just think in eat something and sleep like a babe for the next day 4 sector day. Specially if you are on earlies.

you can do that 3/4 years??

cheers
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Old 29th Apr 2019, 01:43
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Experiencing long duty periods, but not being productive is as fatiguing . multi sectors, then a drive to the 3* hotel then more sectors the next day. with hours transits at base. Then amaybe a red eye the next evening..

The guys at my employer are keen for a ryanair style of roster. No one here’s afraid to graft, as long as the time off compensates .

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Old 29th Apr 2019, 02:42
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Yes, the roster is perfect. And itís no more 900h / year. They hired so many cadets last 2 years, that in average you fly 60 hours / month. At least as an F/O, donít know how it is for skippers though.
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Old 29th Apr 2019, 07:03
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Originally Posted by Rendy View Post
Yes, the roster is perfect. And itís no more 900h / year. They hired so many cadets last 2 years, that in average you fly 60 hours / month. At least as an F/O, donít know how it is for skippers though.
men the roster is perfect? Come onnn! Are you serious? The roster 5/4 flying 900 hours per year with lot of days of 4 sectors in a Boeing 737NG with 1.678.673 Ryanair SOPs every sector, kills you. Simple!
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Old 29th Apr 2019, 07:54
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Originally Posted by samca View Post


men the roster is perfect? Come onnn! Are you serious? The roster 5/4 flying 900 hours per year with lot of days of 4 sectors in a Boeing 737NG with 1.678.673 Ryanair SOPs every sector, kills you. Simple!
It probably suits some people, haven't heard of anyone working 5/4 being killed by the roster
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Old 29th Apr 2019, 07:59
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Originally Posted by samca View Post
men the roster is perfect? Come onnn! Are you serious? The roster 5/4 flying 900 hours per year with lot of days of 4 sectors in a Boeing 737NG with 1.678.673 Ryanair SOPs every sector, kills you. Simple!
Nothing like flying 899:59 a year and landing at 6am after flying redeyes with your current employer, right, samca?

Hundreds of new cadets every year manage Ryanair SOPs just fine, so experienced pilot like you should have no problem with that, right?

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Old 29th Apr 2019, 12:56
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Originally Posted by brushcounsel View Post
Nothing like flying 899:59 a year and landing at 6am after flying redeyes with your current employer, right, samca?

Hundreds of new cadets every year manage Ryanair SOPs just fine, so experienced pilot like you should have no problem with that, right?
I never landed at 6am. Even 4 so I cannot answer that question for now.
yes maybe is the problem that experienced pilots donít know how to manage the fatigue and cadets are experts. Or maybe cadets are brand new in this world and they donít manage fatigue yet.... who knows but anyway if they are happy that is the important Iím happy for them 😊
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