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Old 12th October 2017 | 12:49
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Legal to advertise for staff for a subsidiary with no AOC in place?
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Old 12th October 2017 | 17:24
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Source please?
SAS udsætter opstart af Heathrow-base - CHECK-IN.dk
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Old 12th October 2017 | 18:02
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Positions with SAS Ireland

Below is a list with positions, advertised by CAE/Parc, for SAS Ireland Ltd (SAIL):

Senior Training Support Coordinator
Scandinavian Language speaking experienced Cabin Crew
Experienced Cabin Crew
Experienced Senior Cabin Crew
A320 Captains
A320 First Officers
A320 TRE/TRI
Manager Crew Training (Nominated Postholder)
Flight Operations Controller
Operations Compliance Auditor

Quite many positions still open for a company that was planned to start ops as of winter timetable end of october? Yes...

Internally, delayed delivery from Airbus is to blame.
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Old 12th October 2017 | 18:44
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Good opportunity for ex Monarch Staff
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Old 12th October 2017 | 19:44
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Opportunity yes - good no. Have you seen the T & C's ?

We are talking a (small) step up from small planet p2fly.
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Old 12th October 2017 | 19:49
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I saw a recruitment event for cabincrew scheduled for tomorrow at Heathrow.
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Old 12th October 2017 | 20:56
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Welcome to the neighborhood!
We all have AOCs in Ireland!
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Old 24th October 2017 | 11:27
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Originally Posted by HippoDK
Opportunity yes - good no. Have you seen the T & C's ?

We are talking a (small) step up from small planet p2fly.
Still better than no job as ex Monarch employees with mortgages, bills to pay and family mouths to feed will no doubt be thinking.
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Old 24th October 2017 | 14:34
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Well......this ex Monarch crew just told them where to stick their T & Cs !
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Old 24th October 2017 | 18:09
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Good on you!

Sincerely,
All mainline SAS pilots!
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Old 24th October 2017 | 18:35
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Is it not just a scarecrow? I mean to force SAS group pilots to "open their minds"? It doesn not sound a viable plan to launch from LHR at winter's onset. Plus, the financial condtions alone seem to preclude any existence of a dedicated, well performing and loyal pilot pool.
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Old 24th October 2017 | 18:36
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In that case, it is a bloated, expensive scarecrow.
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Old 25th October 2017 | 08:59
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Well......this ex Monarch crew just told them where to stick their T & Cs !
Can someone please detail the package on offer for line captains? I'd like to confirm my general despondency with the industry 😖
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Old 25th October 2017 | 11:28
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can't find pdf with conditions on my laptop, but ask CAE Parc Aviation, they will send you that file


Another question - anybody actually know when they will start operations??
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Old 25th October 2017 | 19:12
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I recall line Capt as around £6500 per month. No pension. Can probably make more driving a Uber.. better tax breaks anyway.

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Old 25th October 2017 | 19:22
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Didn't Norwegian start in the U.K. with abysmal T & Cs. They now have a pension and LOL.

With pilot and cabin crew union agreements signed I would hope once things have settled down, improvements could hopefully be negotiated. Good luck all.
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Old 25th October 2017 | 19:53
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If it becomes a success story, things will clearly have to change w.r.t T's & C's as people will vote with their feet for better paying jobs; but in the mean time it will suit a fair few who are, through bad luck and circumstance, currently unemployed. Joining is optional, but my guess is that remaining will be conditional, for those who are joining to bridge a gap. There are lots of better options around... if geography is not a factor; and as we all know in this industry, it is far better to apply for a new role from a position of strength (i.e presently employed).
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Old 25th October 2017 | 20:11
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Reminds me when I became a Klingon, we Cambrian guys had that title for many years in Ba,the only difference being that we were on the same salaries as the main line guys, who knows what will happen in the future depends how many walk after two years ,also became one of the few.
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Old 25th October 2017 | 21:50
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Parc are quoting £8,378 a month all in. They have to provide a pension as it is UK based but it is only the state minimum level of contribution.
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Old 26th October 2017 | 09:49
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So not great indeed, around 15% less than a UK orange base without considering pension, LOL, sick pay. I guess we're talking 25% less if you fund all the extra benefits yourself. 5/4 roster should be good though.

SAS will get away with it for now due to the unfortunate demise of Monarch. Good luck to those joining for improving the package over time.
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