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Old 3rd Feb 2017, 10:13
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EU/EASA must make some changes. Only then we can hope for course reversal in TCs.

Why would the trough slurping EU bureaucrats do such a thing? The airlines would claim the price of tickets would have to rise and the peasants of the EU would revolt having to pay increased fair-trade prices for their tickets. Let slavery, in many industries, continue so that the peasants can eat cake instead of bread and vote for their grinning faced apparently benevolent MP's.
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Old 3rd Feb 2017, 13:08
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How Europe's three biggest budget airlines plan to take over the world
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Old 4th Feb 2017, 02:39
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Originally Posted by 172_driver View Post
The press release mentions bases in London this year and Spain next.
Which London airport for an operational base?
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Old 4th Feb 2017, 08:58
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Oh dear Bondi you don't give up do you!!

Remember pilots who fly for NAI don't work for NAI they are employed by OSM, must be hard for you, you know, always being on the wrong side of history, it is social taxes in Scandinavia that kill pilot jobs based there, Finnair will likely follow, the Finish Government will need to increase the tax take if it intends to fully roll out its trail of giving everyone a basic living wage for sitting at home on their computers all day, perhaps you should apply, after all you may have made some contributions to the Finish tax system before you were turfed out of Vannta
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Old 4th Feb 2017, 10:31
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Remember also;

Via his novel and complex staffing agency labor model, Kjos does not offer airline employment, he offers airline “unemployment”.

Dreams of a career in aviation are turned into nightmares of service industry insecurity.

SAS employs their pilots directly, all have labor rights and labor principles directly with SAS.

While on the subject of tax, I hear Norwegian’s pilots may soon be paying tax on their freebie jumpseat tickets out of LGW.
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Old 4th Feb 2017, 11:32
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[it is social taxes in Scandinavia that kill pilot jobs based there][/QUOTE]

Not sure I understand this. Why more so pilots than doctors nurses or office workers ?
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Old 4th Feb 2017, 20:55
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In the same way as I detected a lack of French/UK origin below deck workers on cross-channel ferries over the last 3 decades, airline pax are not all blind. . . lack of PA's in the local lingo etc. . . pay for SAS , get flyygawdknowswhat airlines. Sad that aviation is going that way . . . anyone with some authority to stop it is either not interested, or is in someone else's pocket, for sure it is not merely ignorance of the situation.
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Old 4th Feb 2017, 21:09
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Which London airport for an operational base?
No idea, they've got slots at LHR but if they can be used for something useful I don't know
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Old 4th Feb 2017, 21:41
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It's called culture change......,.
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Old 4th Feb 2017, 22:01
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Some, like the consumers, think it's for the better. Pilots, who you see on here mostly, are the once adversely affected by said change.
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Old 6th Feb 2017, 07:42
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There are reasons Scandinavia airline CEO’s seek to cut labor costs.

http://e24.no/boers-og-finans/sas/sa...ioner/23913896

“SAS boss got pay rise of two million”

Norwegian’s CEO avoids answering questions on his net worth and states; “A lot of pilots earn more than me” (time 4.39).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdWfEozTOQg&t=331s

The race to the bottom continues. Fat cats and fat rats get fatter.
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Old 8th Mar 2017, 00:14
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Where they going to get their type rated pilots from?
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Old 17th Mar 2017, 18:29
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SAS confirms its entry in the race to the bottom by adopting the ‘airline unemployment’ model;

“SAS Ireland boss Michael Wångdahl holding discussions with a number of staffing companies” – Dagbladet 17/3 - Link:

http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/fort...ettes/67403113

Union members should demand their representatives act on current legislation which states;

“The entity controlling the working life and supplying the equipment to perform the job shall be deemed the employer” - as accepted by the law courts of Europe and detailed in this International Labor Office guide:

http://www.ilo.org/wcmsp5/groups/pub...cms_209280.pdf

Alternatively, continue to pay union dues and fill union coffers for representation to staffing agencies, rather than direct representation to the airline with associated labor rights and labor principles.
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Old 18th Mar 2017, 15:04
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Originally Posted by mask14 View Post
Where they going to get their type rated pilots from?
SAS will wet lease the 320NEO's to SAS Ireland. Ireland based staff is ground staff only.

Source: SAS outlines new Irish unit plans due in mid-4Q17 - ch-aviation.com

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Old 18th Mar 2017, 15:23
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breakdip i think you have it the wrong way around...

SAS will wetlease from SAS Ireland
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Old 19th Mar 2017, 08:43
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Originally Posted by HippoDK View Post
SAS will wetlease from SAS Ireland
Herregud, you are completely right...

SAS Irish subsidiary to begin flights in November
SAS will own the Irish airline, which will be a separate entity to its parent but will carry its brand. It will fly the Spanish and British routes on a “wet lease” basis, that is, providing the aircraft and crew.

About 40 staff will be based here initially. The airline will begin hiring pilots and crew later in the year.
Do not know which words to choose: Scandalous or Smart?
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Old 10th May 2017, 19:24
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Anobod knows what's going on now? Been very quiet in a long while.
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Old 10th May 2017, 20:51
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Internally too, but I believe the aim is to have the London base up and running by the end of the year. Union negotiations are currently ongoing.
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Old 22nd May 2017, 12:40
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Which base in Spain is considered? Is it Malaga?
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Old 14th Jun 2017, 14:07
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Anyone knows sth about the conditions?
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