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Old 14th Jun 2017, 14:24
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Captain terms and conditions (don't know about the FO terms but apply and I'm sure they'll send it to you straight away).

Duration of Contract: Long term
Start Date: Nov 2017

Minimum Requirements
 IAA EASA /ATPL Licence
 Current within last 12 months
 3,000 hours Total Time
 500+ hours command on the Airbus A320
 Valid A320 Rating on EASA licence
 Class 1 EASA Medical
 ICAO Level 5 English
 European Union passport
 No incident / accident



Payment:
Based on 60 b/h per month
Basic Salary £ 5,220.00 per month
Flight allowance (applicable once 15 days worked in a month)
£1,000.00 per month
Overtime per b/h £ 113.33 per b/h over 60
Overnight allowance £ 51.00 per night
Standby daily rate £ 50.00


Planning and Scheduling:
5/4 roster pattern

Leave:
20 days leave per year to be taken at a time agreed with the Airline
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Old 14th Jun 2017, 14:33
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Do I get it right:

60h included in the basic and sector payment only payed when working over 60h

and extra allowance when working over 15 days?
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Old 14th Jun 2017, 15:12
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These look more like FO conditions honestly.
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Old 14th Jun 2017, 16:29
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They're pretty much similar to any other in Europe. 6-7000€ after tax seems to be the norm these days...
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Old 14th Jun 2017, 18:55
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Your right €6-7k net is the norm left seat these days...... except the figures offered by SAS/uk/es are gross.....disappointing. This pay is lower than standard senior fo
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Old 14th Jun 2017, 20:15
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Those are conditions for uk. Anybody has details for Spain? I am sure they will get some weird exchange rate pounds to euros ;(
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Old 15th Jun 2017, 09:44
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£62k basic salary for a captain? That is not market rate, an UK based easyjet SFO basic salary is only just short of that....
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Old 15th Jun 2017, 10:01
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I'd genuinely love to see those high-paying European DEC job offers.

Every time I get T&C's and crunch the numbers, I come up with 9-10k EUR gross, 6-7k EUR net. That includes perdiems, sector pay, hourly pay, overnight etc.

Unless you have a legacy contract somewhere, that's what you get these days...
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Old 15th Jun 2017, 10:23
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The problem is that you won't see 7k net with that gross salary.
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Old 15th Jun 2017, 16:15
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New SAS Ireland airline to hire 40 at its Dublin HQ - Independent.ie

¨By basing SAS Ireland pilots and cabin crew outside Scandinavia, the new division's labour costs will be between 35pc and 40pc cheaper that those of the parent.¨

¨Its staff will be paid similar wages to their Scandinavian counterparts, but social charges and taxes will be lower.¨

Yeah, right... ;(
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Old 15th Jun 2017, 16:45
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I did admire SAS but those days are over.
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Old 15th Jun 2017, 16:58
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They don't care if pilots admire them or not anymore, they don't care about 'getting the best' or "we're Scandinavians" or "Nordic by-choice" or whatever their latest slogan is. They just want the investors to admire them to finance their great expansion of long-haul airplanes and A320neo's... I am just sceptical it's gonna work out better this time
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Old 15th Jun 2017, 19:08
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Originally Posted by fly4more View Post
This is a legacy carrier who are biting the bullet and starting a low co operation.
Obviously the terms n conditions will suck otherwise why would they bother starting up a loco ? They could simply use their own guys.

They are asking for very little experience. 500 hrs on type command ... pretty low , so low pay . Thats it .

Plenty of EK Guys applying but no chance , its A320 rating guys
http://www.emirates-executive.com/
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Old 16th Jun 2017, 15:07
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Hmm

Money is low sorry , plus after UK taxes......plus working for an Agency and not a good one at that ........... not even a direct contract. Stay where you are at Emirates guys or go to EZ and get a direct contract and Seniority.
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Old 16th Jun 2017, 15:29
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Does anyone know conditions for FO, and how to apply? Been looking everywhere but not able to find the smallest info.
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Old 16th Jun 2017, 19:05
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I would recommend you to send an e-mail to the agency:

https://caeparcaviation.com/contact/
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Old 18th Jun 2017, 20:03
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Thank you!
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Old 22nd Jun 2017, 11:20
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FO basic pay: £3300/month. I think it was about £71/h over 60h/month.
Capt: £5500/month. Can't remember hourly pay over 60h, but it was proportional, so about £110-120/h.
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Old 22nd Jun 2017, 18:21
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Seriously,
I cant understand what everybody are bitching about.

A first officer with 80 hrs block is looking at around 7000€ gross.
Should leave them with 4600-5000€ Net with a Malaga base. Last time I checked that isnt bad money for spain base.

Now if that is so damn bad then everybody should complain on Vueling, volltea, eurowings, ryanair, norwegian, aireuropa and and and...........

Aviation in Europe is forever destroyed, expect rare operators like virgin.

Its life in EU with bad money vs life in middle east with bad life...........
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Old 22nd Jun 2017, 22:07
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How exactly did you come up with 7000 EUR gross? Not from the figures quoted above obviously.
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